Hiroshima August 1945

They did not develope it--They Stole it
It's not likely that the Sviets stole the tech to build a bomb. They were one of several countries that already had it.

Not important anymore. What is important is that MAD prevents nuclear war and conventional weapons superiority isn't America's now.

Nobody is willing to talk about that. Are you ready?

We have to start with the fact that the Zionist regime can't defend itself. I'll fill in the details.

In a nuthell, Trump has fukked up the ME's pecking order.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. If the bomb has not exploded properly in testing the invasion plan was all but set.
BS. It wasn’t hindsight in the least. Many military and other officials told Dirty Harry not to use it. Japan was already done and had no ability to continue the war.

There was no need to invade and occupy, unless you’re a nutty imperialist.
 
The Japanese way of mourning Hiroshima and Nagasaki is unique. In it, memory exists without blame. The mourning ceremony, white cranes, children singing the anthem of peace, and terrible awkwardness in response to the simplest question: “Who?”
 
The Soviet Union defeated fascism. Russia/the Brics might have to do it again.
Bullcrap. The WAllies defeated the Nazis, Stalin was as much a fascist as he was a communist. He was a tyrant and any political system that supported his aims was the same to him. All Stalin did was to kill millions of his own people repelling a Nazi invasion and conquering Eastern Europe, the Baltics and the Balkans. If Hitler hadn't invaded the USSR, Stalin would have happily kept selling him fuel, food and material to fight the WAllies. In Stalin's view, the WAllies were as much his enemies as Germany was.
 
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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. My opinion is that Truman would rather see Japanese die than American Soldiers. Also when Stalin saw that Truman had the balls to drop the bomb he stopped his aggression in Asia.
Wrong, Stalin continued his Asian offensives for well over a week after the surrender documents were signed. Stalin didn't even start his war with Japan until a day after Nagasaki.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. If the bomb has not exploded properly in testing the invasion plan was all but set.
Gipper wouldn't mind the Japanese armies in China, Malaysia, Burma and Indochina continuing to slaughter thousands of civilians a week for the months it would have taken the population of Japan to starve to death, not to mention all the POWs being murdered by the oh so sane and benevolent Japanese every day. Of course, he doesn't mind all the millions of Japanese women and children starving to death before the "Big Six" finially decided to surrender, IF THEY EVER WOULD.
 
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Hindsight is 20/20. If the bomb has not exploded properly in testing the invasion plan was all but set.
It wasn't "all but set" it was set. The supplies had been amassed, most of the troops for the initial invasion were prepositioned and the rest were on their way from Europe. More nukes were being produced to be used as tactical weapons against Japanese troops concentrations as needed.
 
Why would you have wanted to do that after the Soviets lost about 26million people and was totally devastated, unless you were a total satanic Psycho.
The Soviet and Russian conduct since 1945 demonstrates that they would happily have used or threatened to use nukes to conquer the world if they had them. They have used every other weapon of mass destruction in their wars of conquest. They used both Chemical weapons and biological weapons against Afghani CIVILIANS in their failed war of conquest there. Most of those 26,000,000 people died at the direct orders of Stalin, two thirds were civilians starved or murdered by his government and the rest were troops deliberately fed into a meatgrinder just like Putin is feeding Russian troops in the Ukrainian meatgrinder today.
 
We will never know the whole reason for dropping those bombs, the japs were fanatics but the Country had been devastated one thing no one has mentioned the Soviets said they were going to get involved against Japan as agreed at Yalta, maybe the Japs realized if that happened there would be no Japanese State left so decided to throw the towel in while there still was a State.
The Japanese and their rulers never realized (or cared) about that. The emperor who was the Head of State but had no role in governing it realized that and for the first time in the war took direct action by ordering a surrender on public radio. That was the first time he ever spoke to the Japanese public.
 
BS. It wasn’t hindsight in the least. Many military and other officials told Dirty Harry not to use it. Japan was already done and had no ability to continue the war.

There was no need to invade and occupy, unless you’re a nutty imperialist.
The ones telling him that either had no knowledge of the situation like Eisenhower or were part of the bomber mafia like Curtis LeMay who were convinced that strategic bombing could force a surrender in spite of all the evidence to the contrary from Germany, Great Britain and Japan itself.
 
It's not likely that the Sviets stole the tech to build a bomb. They were one of several countries that already had it.

Not important anymore. What is important is that MAD prevents nuclear war and conventional weapons superiority isn't America's now.

Nobody is willing to talk about that. Are you ready?

We have to start with the fact that the Zionist regime can't defend itself. I'll fill in the details.

In a nuthell, Trump has fukked up the ME's pecking order.
The Soviets never had the bomb until four years after the war. They were only able to build them then because they had numerous spies and traitors in the Manhattan Project relaying al the technical and scientific details to them.
 
The Soviets never had the bomb until four years after the war. They were only able to build them then because they had numerous spies and traitors in the Manhattan Project relaying al the technical and scientific details to them.
Well maybe those so called traitors were anything but, maybe they realized if there was no counter balance to the US with that kind of destructive power some in the US were maybe crazy enough to use it against the Soviet Union, like the case of Anthony Blunt a wartime MI5 agent he passed information to the Soviets of German radio traffic regarding things like German troop movements etc he believed at the time the Soviets should have been told about, after all we were on the same side at the time, as far as i know his spying never went on after WW2.
 
The Soviets never had the bomb until four years after the war. They were only able to build them then because they had numerous spies and traitors in the Manhattan Project relaying al the technical and scientific details to them.
No! your head is full of propaganda.
 
Well maybe those so called traitors were anything but, maybe they realized if there was no counter balance to the US with that kind of destructive power some in the US were maybe crazy enough to use it against the Soviet Union, like the case of Anthony Blunt a wartime MI5 agent he passed information to the Soviets of German radio traffic regarding things like German troop movements etc he believed at the time the Soviets should have been told about, after all we were on the same side at the time, as far as i know his spying never went on after WW2.
There was no need for a counterbalance. The USA didn't take any action to conquer any countries during or after WW 2 unlike the USSR which conquered all of Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the Baltic States.
 
There was no need for a counterbalance. The USA didn't take any action to conquer any countries during or after WW 2 unlike the USSR which conquered all of Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the Baltic States.
So you are unaware of some nutters in the US and even the UK ruling circles who wanted to attack the Soviet Union? one was operation unthinkable.
 
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The ones telling him that either had no knowledge of the situation like Eisenhower or were part of the bomber mafia like Curtis LeMay who were convinced that strategic bombing could force a surrender in spite of all the evidence to the contrary from Germany, Great Britain and Japan itself.
Enough of your statist ignorance and adherence to statist myths. When will you realize what you learned in government grade school was propaganda?

Eighty Years After the Atomic Bombs

With unconscionable carnage and up to 85M deaths, the Second World War was the greatest catastrophe in history. In a sense, the atomic bombs were an apt climax to that orgy of butchery.​


Among them was Admiral William Leahy, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs during the war:

“It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was no material success in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons. … My own feeling was that in being the first to use [nuclear weapons] we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages.”


Former President and retired Five-Star General Dwight Eisenhower chimed in with similar sentiment:

“The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. … I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”

Major General JFC Fuller described the bombings as “a type of war that would’ve disgraced Tamerlane.” He also dispensed with the common justification:

“Though to save life is laudable, it in no way justifies the employment of means which run counter to every precept of humanity and the customs of war. Should it do so, then, on the pretext of shortening a war and of saving lives, every imaginable atrocity can be justified.”

As Stanford professor Barton Bernstein relayed in a New York Times article preceding a Smithsonian exhibit commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

“Neither the atomic bombing nor the entry of the Soviet Union into the war forced Japan’s unconditional surrender. She was defeated before either of these events took place.”

These weren’t Barton’s words. He was quoting what Brigadier General Bonnie Fellers wrote to General Douglas MacArthur soon after V-J Day.

This isn’t the convenient clarity of 20/20 hindsight. Skeptics were wearing corrective lenses many months before the Enola Gay left the runway.

In January 1945, the Japanese offered to surrender on terms virtually identical to those they accepted after Nagasaki. MacArthur informed FDR of this two days before the president left for Yalta. Leahy provided the information, and Truman himself later corroborated the account.

Had the US accepted the overture, not only the devastation of the atomic bombs would’ve been avoided, but Iwo Jima and Okinawa wouldn’t have occurred, sparing 20,000 American lives.
 
It's not likely that the Sviets stole the tech to build a bomb. They were one of several countries that already had it.

Not important anymore. What is important is that MAD prevents nuclear war and conventional weapons superiority isn't America's now.

Nobody is willing to talk about that. Are you ready?

We have to start with the fact that the Zionist regime can't defend itself. I'll fill in the details.

In a nuthell, Trump has fukked up the ME's pecking order.
Can't? They just got through kicking Iranian ass royal.
 
80 years ago.
the first Atom Bomb fell onto a city
Just a reminder ....

Too bad someone didn't take HD slo-motion color film of the event to we could watch it all over again in slo-mo detail.

I heard one account of a doctor who was about four miles out of town seeing a patient when the blast went off. He was unaware of what had happened. Walking back home back to town, he began noticing that something was odd. That is when he spotted what he thought must be a person, but they didn't look right.

The person was carbon black from head to toe and was staggering towards him. When he got close, he could see skin hanging off of him and he had no face. No eyes, no nose and no mouth, just black.

That is where the person finally fell down and died.
 
So you are unaware of some nutters in the US and even the UK ruling circles who wanted to attack the Soviet Union? one was operation unthinkable.
Given the Soviet and Russian actions since 1945, maybe Churchill and Patton weren’t such “nutters” after all. The Soviets and Russians are directly responsible for multiple millions of civilian casualties and indirectly for tens of millions more since 1945. If the Russians had been beaten by Operation Unthinkable in 1945, there would have been no thirty or so million Chinese killed by Mao Tse Tung, no several million killed by the North Vietnamese, or the couple million killed by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, the million or so killed by the Castros in Cuba, the several million killed by communist terrorists in Africa, or the million or so killed in the various Islamic wars with Israel. All of which are directly attributable to the USSR/Russia. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands civilian Ukrainian civilians killed by Putin’s deliberate attacks on civilian targets.
 

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