Hillary Outspends Trump on Ads 98 to 1

[JimBowie1958]

And she is still neck and neck with Trump! roflmao

So, who is the Corporate Elite behind, Trump or Hillary? Obviously Hillary and if you vote for her, you are voting to cement corporate control of America PERMANENTLY.

Hillary Clinton slated to outspend Donald Trump 98-to-1 on TV ads right now - Breitbart

Hillary Clinton is slated to outspend her presidential opponent Donald Trump by more than $97 million, according to data collected by media firms tracking ad spending in the campaign.

NBC News, citing data compiled by the media consulting firm SMG Delta, said Clinton’s campaign and the pro-Clinton super PAC Priorities USA have reserved $98 million in air time on broadcast, cable and satellite platforms from now through Nov. 8. Clinton and Priorities USA have ads targeted to every swing state in addition to a national cable ad buy.

Comparatively, Trump’s campaign does not have any air time reserved and two pro-Trump super PACs have roughly $800,000 in time reserved in three states: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Their national ad buy is about $329,000, NBC reported.

 

[Dekster]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

 

[AmericanGirl05]

That strategy worked oh-so-well when Jeb used it.

 

[konradv]

Kind of kills the "MSM is out to get Trump" meme when you consider all the free air time he's getting. I'll give it to him that he understands media, but I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

 

[couch protester]

I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

That's because you trust an incompetent feminist establishment candidate puppet with the codes to be hacked by Russia like they did her emails moron.

Hill Billy Clit couldn't run a country, let alone her own emails or sexually abusive husband. She can't be trusted.

 

[candycorn]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

 

[Dekster]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

 

[candycorn]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

 

[Dekster]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn't even a factor. If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

 

[AmericanGirl05]

Kind of kills the "MSM is out to get Trump" meme when you consider all the free air time he's getting. I'll give it to him that he understands media, but I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

But you'd let a craven, corrupt woman who has proven her incompetence in executive positions do it.

 

[konradv]

Kind of kills the "MSM is out to get Trump" meme when you consider all the free air time he's getting. I'll give it to him that he understands media, but I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

But you'd let a craven, corrupt woman who has proven her incompetence in executive positions do it.

"Craven, corrupt"? That's Trump in a nutshell. You've been listening to too much propaganda.

 

[candycorn]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

That much is true.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

 

[Dekster]

It is cheaper to wait to buy air time. There are rules about this and campaigns basically get more for less the later they wait because they have to be given cheap matching prices.

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

That much is true.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES IT. If Trump wants his 100 30 second ads and they only have room for 50 ads then they have to cut Hillary to 50 or give him 25 of her ad slots so they both get 75 and refund her the difference. They cannot use "We sold all our ads" as an excuse to circumvent the law. They must accommodate, not sell any ads, or face the wrath of the FCC which has a tendency to hand out huge fines these days for not much other than you violated the law.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Kind of kills the "MSM is out to get Trump" meme when you consider all the free air time he's getting. I'll give it to him that he understands media, but I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

But you'd let a craven, corrupt woman who has proven her incompetence in executive positions do it.

"Craven, corrupt"? That's Trump in a nutshell. You've been listening to too much propaganda.

Where has Trump deleted 30k emails that were plausible evidence for a criminal investigation?

Where has Trump lied to the families of dead soldiers and an ambassador serving our country?

Where has Trump won $100,000 in a year gambling on the Cattle Futures market?

Where has anyone ever accused Trump of putting goons on them to scare them into silence?

Where has Trump accepted millions of dollars in donations and speaking fees by enemies of our country while holding office?

Where has Trump ever skimmed hundreds of millions of US dollars from a charitable effort for earthquake victims like Billary did the people of Haiti?

'You are an ignoramus and a fool.

 

[candycorn]

Its actually harder to buy air time later on when Congressional state and local races are all vying for the same 30 second slot on local news.

Then there is this:

Trump prepared to spend $1 billion on campaign "if I had to" - CNNPolitics.com

He said he would spend a billion dollars of his own money. He’s played you all for fools.

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

That much is true.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES IT. If Trump wants his 100 30 second ads and they only have room for 50 ads then they have to cut Hillary to 50 or give him 25 of her ad slots so they both get 75 and refund her the difference. They cannot use "We sold all our ads" as an excuse to circumvent the law. They must accommodate, not sell any ads, or face the wrath of the FCC which has a tendency to hand out huge fines these days for not much other than you violated the law.

Just to be clear; are you saying that if they ran 100 Hillary ads in October 1-31; Trump can demand in November that they run 100 of his ads?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Battle of the Billionaires: Clinton’s uber-rich backers pour money into Trump fight | Fox News

 

[Dekster]

Except it isn't. They have to bump regular commercials if necessary for the political ads to give candidates equal access as other candidates if they want it. Stations technically only have to match the cost of ads charges to the person's competitors, but as a matter of practice, they usually drop the rate to the lowest rates they charge so one might be getting a 6 pm ad at the 3 am price.

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

That much is true.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES IT. If Trump wants his 100 30 second ads and they only have room for 50 ads then they have to cut Hillary to 50 or give him 25 of her ad slots so they both get 75 and refund her the difference. They cannot use "We sold all our ads" as an excuse to circumvent the law. They must accommodate, not sell any ads, or face the wrath of the FCC which has a tendency to hand out huge fines these days for not much other than you violated the law.

Just to be clear; are you saying that if they ran 100 Hillary ads in October 1-31; Trump can demand in November that they run 100 of his ads?

Yes. The rules apply 45 days before a primary and 60 days prior to a general election for federal office elections. There is no federal equal time rule for state races. Before the 45/60 day windows candidates get comparable rates not most preferred rates.

Just anecdotally, being in a swing state, I have sat and watched entire commercial breaks be political ads bought by the same campaign run back to back or dueling ads that kind of run together to be a funny "They both suck" single ad. It is not effective to do that.

 

[candycorn]

Uh no.

Between 6 and 10 PM, there may be as many as 8 local TV spots. The rest are national ads. Most are around the newscasts of course and they will be all dominated by the politicos. But Channel 8 in Columbus Ohio can’t take off a Head and Shoulders ad from Criminal Minds to run an ad from Clinton or Trump or Portman. There may be a local spot at the bottom of the hour that is built in but national ads don’t get bumped and during prime time; most are national spots.

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

If CH8 sells 100 30 second ads to Clinton, they have to sell 100 30 second ads to Trump if he wants them or 10 ads if he wants them.

That much is true.

It is called the equal time rule and §315(b) of the 1934 Communications Act requires those political ads be sold at the same price as given to their most favored advertiser, thus why you can get 6pm ads at 3 am prices. .

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES IT. If Trump wants his 100 30 second ads and they only have room for 50 ads then they have to cut Hillary to 50 or give him 25 of her ad slots so they both get 75 and refund her the difference. They cannot use "We sold all our ads" as an excuse to circumvent the law. They must accommodate, not sell any ads, or face the wrath of the FCC which has a tendency to hand out huge fines these days for not much other than you violated the law.

Just to be clear; are you saying that if they ran 100 Hillary ads in October 1-31; Trump can demand in November that they run 100 of his ads?

Yes. The rules apply 45 days before a primary and 60 days prior to a general election for federal office elections. There is no federal equal time rule for state races. Before the 45/60 day windows candidates get comparable rates not most preferred rates.

I think you’re incorrect.
I think the stations need to make the ads available to anyone who wants to purchase them.

From Wikipedia:

The equal-time rule specifies that U.S. radio and television broadcast stations must provide an equivalent opportunity to any opposing political candidates who request it. This means, for example, that if a station gives a given amount of time to a candidate in prime time, it must do the same for another candidate who requests it, at the same price if applicable.[1] The equal-time rule was created because the FCC thought the stations could easily manipulate the outcome of elections by presenting just one point of view, and excluding other candidates. It should not be confused with the now-defunct Fairness Doctrine, which dealt with presenting balanced points of view on matters of public importance.

 

[Dekster]

National ads are not purchased from Channel 8 Columbus so that isn’t even a factor.

If Channel 8 is a CBS affiliate it certainly is. Channel 8 won’t have 100 spots in primetime to sell.

That much is true.

If the ad time exists. You think it does.
It simply does not.

FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES IT. If Trump wants his 100 30 second ads and they only have room for 50 ads then they have to cut Hillary to 50 or give him 25 of her ad slots so they both get 75 and refund her the difference. They cannot use "We sold all our ads" as an excuse to circumvent the law. They must accommodate, not sell any ads, or face the wrath of the FCC which has a tendency to hand out huge fines these days for not much other than you violated the law.

Just to be clear; are you saying that if they ran 100 Hillary ads in October 1-31; Trump can demand in November that they run 100 of his ads?

Yes. The rules apply 45 days before a primary and 60 days prior to a general election for federal office elections. There is no federal equal time rule for state races. Before the 45/60 day windows candidates get comparable rates not most preferred rates.

I think you’re incorrect.
I think the stations need to make the ads available to anyone who wants to purchase them.

From Wikipedia:

The equal-time rule specifies that U.S. radio and television broadcast stations must provide an equivalent opportunity to any opposing political candidates who request it. This means, for example, that if a station gives a given amount of time to a candidate in prime time, it must do the same for another candidate who requests it, at the same price if applicable.[1] The equal-time rule was created because the FCC thought the stations could easily manipulate the outcome of elections by presenting just one point of view, and excluding other candidates. It should not be confused with the now-defunct Fairness Doctrine, which dealt with presenting balanced points of view on matters of public importance.

They don't. It just applies to federal campaigns. PACS do not get equal airtime. Other races do not either, but most will gladly take their money because ad contracts usually are for rotations and the last TV ad package I bought for work had language reserving the right to bump you and move your ads if need be for breaking news, political ads, etc.

 

[mudwhistle]

Kind of kills the "MSM is out to get Trump" meme when you consider all the free air time he's getting. I'll give it to him that he understands media, but I wouldn't trust him to run the country or let him anywhere near the nuclear codes.

Yeah......bad press counts as much as Clinton Propaganda. Pretty much the same animal.