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Expulsion of a peoples from their homeland doesn't remove their rights to that homeland.

It does after 2000 years.

The thing is, the JUDEANS were expelled. There are no JUDEANS anymore. Just like there aren't any Celts, Thracians, Aramites, etc.

The European Jews happen to share a bastardized version of the Judean's religion, although you have the Talmud and a bunch of other books that make you all less like Bronze Age assholes...

It really doesn't give you the right to someone else's land.
 
It does after 2000 years.

So what is the definitive length of time an expelled people have to be, you know, expelled, before they lose all their rights? A year? A hundred years? A thousand years? Just curious what your objective parameters are.

The thing is, the JUDEANS were expelled. There are no JUDEANS anymore.
Provide comprehensive definition of "Judean".
 
So what is the definitive length of time an expelled people have to be, you know, expelled, before they lose all their rights? A year? A hundred years? A thousand years? Just curious what your objective parameters are.

A thousand years seems reasonable.

50 down. Only 950 to go, then.
 
Then why is so much of your evidence from them ?

Nope the term Zionism may be European but the concept goes back to the time of the Roman invasion and conquest.

That alone is directly lifted from the hate sites that ignore Purim and its mantra " Next year in Jerusalem"

Again, sharing a religion with someone who lived 3000 years ago doesn't entitle you to their stuff.







Why are you bringing religion into it all the time, are you fixated on religion so much. Zionism as a concept is and was purely Jewish from Israel as was. It is older than islam, Christianity and communism.
Owning the land and living on it does, and the arab muslims never owned the land apart from a short period of 22 years.
 
Expulsion of a peoples from their homeland doesn't remove their rights to that homeland.

It does after 2000 years.

The thing is, the JUDEANS were expelled. There are no JUDEANS anymore. Just like there aren't any Celts, Thracians, Aramites, etc.

The European Jews happen to share a bastardized version of the Judean's religion, although you have the Talmud and a bunch of other books that make you all less like Bronze Age assholes...

It really doesn't give you the right to someone else's land.







TRY AGAIN and this time dont use the hate sites that peddle this crap

The Jews were not all expelled, most were taken as slaves back to Rome, some remained and kept up their religion and culture.

The European Jews are the remnants of those slaves and kept to the original practises as much as possible, and as DNA results show they are a very close match to the original Jews of the area,

When did it become someone else's land then, as the Ottomans/arab muslims lost it as reparations in 1917 and the LoN handed it to the Jews in 1922 for their national home. So what international law overcomes these two international laws on your hate sites. What gives the arab muslims the right to something that was never theirs in law in the first place as they are mostly illegal immigrants from the surrounding areas
 
Why are you bringing religion into it all the time, are you fixated on religion so much. Zionism as a concept is and was purely Jewish from Israel as was. It is older than islam, Christianity and communism.
Owning the land and living on it does, and the arab muslims never owned the land apart from a short period of 22 years.

Yes, when you think that your Sky Pixie gave you someone else's land and you can treat them like second class citizens in their own country, that's a pretty fucked up religion and deserves to be attacked

The Jews were not all expelled, most were taken as slaves back to Rome, some remained and kept up their religion and culture.

Excatly. They were thrown out of the region. That the Judeans transfered a bastardized version of their religion on some Europeans, who now think they have a right to someone else's land is kind of silly.

When did it become someone else's land then, as the Ottomans/arab muslims lost it as reparations in 1917 and the LoN handed it to the Jews in 1922 for their national home. So what international law overcomes these two international laws on your hate sites. What gives the arab muslims the right to something that was never theirs in law in the first place as they are mostly illegal immigrants from the surrounding areas

The Ottomans didn't own it. The LoN didn't have any business handing it over.

What SHOULD have happened is what happened with the Hapsburg Empire. The people were askd what kind of countries they wanted to have. They didn't give their land to anyone they wanted to get out of their own countries. (And that's what Zionism was, an attempt to get the Jews out of Europe.)

Now, you can pretend all day that Palestine was barren of people before the Jews came back, but it doesn't pass the laugh test.
 
Why are you bringing religion into it all the time, are you fixated on religion so much. Zionism as a concept is and was purely Jewish from Israel as was. It is older than islam, Christianity and communism.
Owning the land and living on it does, and the arab muslims never owned the land apart from a short period of 22 years.

Yes, when you think that your Sky Pixie gave you someone else's land and you can treat them like second class citizens in their own country, that's a pretty fucked up religion and deserves to be attacked

The Jews were not all expelled, most were taken as slaves back to Rome, some remained and kept up their religion and culture.

Excatly. They were thrown out of the region. That the Judeans transfered a bastardized version of their religion on some Europeans, who now think they have a right to someone else's land is kind of silly.

When did it become someone else's land then, as the Ottomans/arab muslims lost it as reparations in 1917 and the LoN handed it to the Jews in 1922 for their national home. So what international law overcomes these two international laws on your hate sites. What gives the arab muslims the right to something that was never theirs in law in the first place as they are mostly illegal immigrants from the surrounding areas

The Ottomans didn't own it. The LoN didn't have any business handing it over.

What SHOULD have happened is what happened with the Hapsburg Empire. The people were askd what kind of countries they wanted to have. They didn't give their land to anyone they wanted to get out of their own countries. (And that's what Zionism was, an attempt to get the Jews out of Europe.)

Now, you can pretend all day that Palestine was barren of people before the Jews came back, but it doesn't pass the laugh test.







NEVER SAID THAT, this is your attempt at deflection again that fails because of your LIES. I said the legal soveriegn land owners gave them the land, just as they gave the arab muslims Egypt, Saudi, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon back in 1923. None of these existed as nations until such a time.

Read again they were not expelled, the majority were takeb as slaves back to Rome. The rest were left alone and carried on living as they had in the past in the lands of their fathers. Again you use the terms touted by the hate sites when the Jewish religion was the same for the returning Jews as it was for the indigenous Jews.
Still waiting for the link that proves it was arab muslim land as I cant find any treaty giving them the land after 1922.

WRONG the Ottomans did own it, which is why they did not allow the arab muslims any form of government. When Egypt tried to set one up the Ottomans invaded and showed them who was in charge. Research the facts as otherwise you make yourself look stupid when the links are produced.

What should have happened is the LoN should have bombed the arab muslims into the stone age and told them that was just a taste of things to come we would not have the problem we have today. And you would not exist spreading your hatred and racism.



STILL WAITING FOR THE LINK PROVING THE ARAB MUSLIMS FROM ALL OVER THE M.E. OWNED ISRAEL ?
 
Is there some Zionist brain disease where "I cheated you fair and square" is a defense.

Hey, guy, you know what sensible people do. If all their neighbors want to kill them, they MOVE. They don't argue about whether or not the reasons why their neighbors want to kill them are valid or not.
 
Is there some Zionist brain disease where "I cheated you fair and square" is a defense.

Hey, guy, you know what sensible people do. If all their neighbors want to kill them, they MOVE. They don't argue about whether or not the reasons why their neighbors want to kill them are valid or not.






You mean cowards dont you, and eventually they have nowhere else to go and have to make a stand. Then sensible people leave of trying to kill them as they will only end up getting themselves and the rest of their family killed in the fallout.



Is there some Nazi disease that says LIE till you can Lie no more and then deny ever saying it
 
Is there some Zionist brain disease where "I cheated you fair and square" is a defense.

Hey, guy, you know what sensible people do. If all their neighbors want to kill them, they MOVE. They don't argue about whether or not the reasons why their neighbors want to kill them are valid or not.

Wow. So ironic, given that you posted just today about the Jewish people MOVING from Europe to Israel, you know -- so that they could be safe from those who wanted to exterminate them.

So, let's spin this the other way and see how it sits with you. Since you are probably one of the people who believes Israel is committing a "slow genocide" on the Palestinians, and since Israel is clearly the superior power, why don't the Palestinians just MOVE?
 
You mean cowards dont you, and eventually they have nowhere else to go and have to make a stand. Then sensible people leave of trying to kill them as they will only end up getting themselves and the rest of their family killed in the fallout.

No, i mean sensible people. Sensible people who don't fight a 70 year ******* war over a strip of desert because an Imaginary Fairy in the Sky promised it to them...

Wow. So ironic, given that you posted just today about the Jewish people MOVING from Europe to Israel, you know -- so that they could be safe from those who wanted to exterminate them.

Uh, the people who tried to exterminated them were defeated, so, no, the Hitler card was old in 1948... much less 2016.

So, let's spin this the other way and see how it sits with you. Since you are probably one of the people who believes Israel is committing a "slow genocide" on the Palestinians, and since Israel is clearly the superior power, why don't the Palestinians just MOVE?

Because they won't be forever.. Demographics aren't the Zionists friends...
 
Is there some Zionist brain disease where "I cheated you fair and square" is a defense.

Hey, guy, you know what sensible people do. If all their neighbors want to kill them, they MOVE. They don't argue about whether or not the reasons why their neighbors want to kill them are valid or not.
So what do you think, Joe, about the Muslims killing the Christians in the Middle East? Have you any suggestions as to where they should move to? How about the Sunnis being busy murdering the Shiites and Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan? Maybe you have come up with a plan as to where they should move to.

As for the laugh test you mentioned previously, you pass the laugh test trying to convince readers that you actually care about the Palestinians. If the Jews were not involved, you would not even be on this forum. Keep on trying to fool the readers if that is what floats your boat.
 
So what is the definitive length of time an expelled people have to be, you know, expelled, before they lose all their rights? A year? A hundred years? A thousand years? Just curious what your objective parameters are.

A thousand years seems reasonable.

I think after a generation, rights become a matter of negotiation. When you go far back into history - there is no way of even knowing if the historical claims are accurate. It's kind of like paying reparations and the right of return issues.
 
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So what do you think, Joe, about the Muslims killing the Christians in the Middle East? Have you any suggestions as to where they should move to? How about the Sunnis being busy murdering the Shiites and Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan? Maybe you have come up with a plan as to where they should move to.

Those people wouldn't be killed if we hadn't riled up the region to start with, this is what you don't seem to get.

Those Christian Communities existed there for hundreds of years. NO big deal. Then we went in, upset all the apple carts, and they all turned on each other like the Zombies had just shown up.
 
Those people wouldn't be killed if we hadn't riled up the region to start with, this is what you don't seem to get.

Those Christian Communities existed there for hundreds of years. NO big deal. Then we went in, upset all the apple carts, and they all turned on each other like the Zombies had just shown up.
Who's we, paleface? Certainly not the United States.

"they all turned on each other like the Zombies had just shown up." Are you saying they're all liberal whackjobs?
 
So what do you think, Joe, about the Muslims killing the Christians in the Middle East? Have you any suggestions as to where they should move to? How about the Sunnis being busy murdering the Shiites and Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan? Maybe you have come up with a plan as to where they should move to.

Those people wouldn't be killed if we hadn't riled up the region to start with, this is what you don't seem to get.

Those Christian Communities existed there for hundreds of years. NO big deal. Then we went in, upset all the apple carts, and they all turned on each other like the Zombies had just shown up.
Those jerks don't need no "riling up." They've been murdering and butchering people since Crazy Mo invented that cult. All because other people are different and won't drink their camel piss....er, Kool Aid.
 
The usual moron Hossfly doesn't realize that Christians in Syria and Iraq were part of the ruling class until the U.S. decided to do its regime change thing. What an asshole.
 
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