Hillary cannot win a non-rigged election

[Faun]

No, it has not occurred to me that the whole thing is rigged since we've had Republicans win 9 of those 20 elections which were predicted by the polls 90% of the time.

Losers are sore losers. That's all this amounts to.

Ah, I see. You still believe that we have a two-party system, and you're still falling for the same scam that has been going on for decades. Here's something for you to watch:

Try arguing what I do say --- not what you think I would say.

 

[Billy000]

I can say with complete confidence that if Trump somehow won, I would accept the result. I would be devastated, but as a mature adult I would trust the outcome.

 

[candycorn]

Hillary is schlonging Trump

 

[buttercup]

Not in that clip.
LOLOLOL

This is why the right is sooo fucking dumbed down.

No, not in THAT version of that video that you linked because you were duped by an edited copy. Try watching the unedited version and learn what Obama actually said .... then thank me later....

What is funny (and pathetic, really) is how much faith you have in your Dear Leader. He doesn't have to say something directly to get a message across. She said "many of the undocumented citizens are fearful of voting...." Then she asked if there is anything to fear, and he absolutely implied that no, immigration is not going to go after anyone. It doesn't matter what he said after that, he got a point across, albeit indirectly, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

And is your speech always so vulgar and hateful?

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

 

[MisterBeale]

I can say with complete confidence that if Trump somehow won, I would accept the result. I would be devastated, but as a mature adult I would trust the outcome.

The election has been rigged three times before in the past sixteen years, so meh, I won't give a shit.

 

[The Great Goose]

The main reason that Trump draws such huge crowds is because of the cult of personality that Americans are caught up in.

If it is someone famous, they want to meet or be close to them, hoping that some of their fame would rub off on them.

Because it can't be because of Trump's speeches. They are long, rambling, and only tell us how great he thinks he is as well as how much money he has.

He then tells us he's the only one that can fix things, but he won't tell us how he's going to do that.

That's how authoritarianism works.

 

[The Great Goose]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

Who won in 08?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump filling arenas while Hillary is having to pay people to fill hallways. We've seen all the anecdotal and empirical evidence showing all the voter fraud as well. We know it's a sham if it's anything but a landslide for Trump. And we'll know it's rigged if HIllary wins. There is just no doubt about it.

The ONLY reason you think the election is rigged is because you're dumb enough to be believe anything that orangutan says. That's it. There is no evidence.

stfu will you?

How about this evidence?

National press reporters gave 96% of their political contributions to the Democrats.

94% of National press reporters are registered Democrats.

... and on and on.

i don't even want to bring up the FBI fiasco ... your girl walked, not because she's innocent, but because she is likely to be Comey's boss in 3 months. The stench surrounding that email "scandal" is stifling.

Tissue?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

I don't think 08 was legit, honestly. Voter machine manipulation and ballot box stuffing on a mass scale. Media sold Obama as a rock star really well; but in the end does it make much sense that we would vote for a nobody with that much corruption? Nah.

 

[Faun]

LOLOLOL

This is why the right is sooo fucking dumbed down.

No, not in THAT version of that video that you linked because you were duped by an edited copy. Try watching the unedited version and learn what Obama actually said .... then thank me later....

What is funny (and pathetic, really) is how much faith you have in your Dear Leader. He doesn't have to say something directly to get a message across. She said "many of the undocumented citizens are fearful of voting...." Then she asked if there is anything to fear, and he absolutely implied that no, immigration is not going to go after anyone. It doesn't matter what he said after that, he got a point across, albeit indirectly, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

No, she didn't say that. You just can't stop lying, can you? This has nothing whatsoever in my "faith in dear leader." It has everything to do with your allergies to the truth. What she actually asked was:

Gina Rodriguez: Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call the citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting, so if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?​

She asks, "If I vote..."

She's an American citizen. She's asking him if she, and citizens like her, need to worry about family and friends, who are undocumented aliens, being in jeopardy of deportation because she voted.

Obama understood her question. Anyone with a functioning brain understood her question. He eased her fears by a) pointing out such family and friends are not at risk by her, an American citizen, voting; and b) her vote speaks not just for herself but for her undocumented family and friends "who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

Who won in 08?

That was a legit victory.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

I don't think 08 was legit, honestly. Voter machine manipulation and ballot box stuffing on a mass scale. Media sold Obama as a rock star really well; but in the end does it make much sense that we would vote for a nobody with that much corruption? Nah.

Well, I wish I could agree, but I could find no instances of large scale voter fraud, or exit polling that would make me think it was a stolen election, sorry.

On a personal note, even I know conservatives that drank the kool-aid. I wouldn't be surprised if you do as well.

 

[MisterBeale]

This time around, I'd be surprised if we will even be able to find independent exit polling available.

 

[buttercup]

No, she didn't say that. You just can't stop lying, can you? This has nothing whatsoever in my "faith in dear leader." It has everything to do with your allergies to the truth. What she actually asked was:

Gina Rodriguez: Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call the citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting, so if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?​

She asks, "If I vote..."

She's an American citizen. She's asking him if she, and citizens like her, need to worry about family and friends, who are undocumented aliens, being in jeopardy of deportation because she voted.

Obama understood her question. Anyone with a functioning brain understood her question. He eased her fears by a) pointing out such family and friends are not at risk by her, an American citizen, voting; and b) her vote speaks not just for herself but for her undocumented family and friends "who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

I heard what she said. I watched it many times. Spin it the way you want, the implication was there. That's why it was worded that way. I completely understand your point, but the way her question was worded, and his response, gives a different impression. Which really shouldn't be that surprising since globalists like Obama and Hillary don't care about open borders or illegals voting - in fact, that's what they want, people voting for more socialism.

 

[Faun]

No, she didn't say that. You just can't stop lying, can you? This has nothing whatsoever in my "faith in dear leader." It has everything to do with your allergies to the truth. What she actually asked was:

Gina Rodriguez: Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call the citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting, so if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?​

She asks, "If I vote..."

She's an American citizen. She's asking him if she, and citizens like her, need to worry about family and friends, who are undocumented aliens, being in jeopardy of deportation because she voted.

Obama understood her question. Anyone with a functioning brain understood her question. He eased her fears by a) pointing out such family and friends are not at risk by her, an American citizen, voting; and b) her vote speaks not just for herself but for her undocumented family and friends "who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."

I heard what she said. I watched it many times. Spin it the way you want, the implication was there. That's why it was worded that way. I completely understand your point, but the way her question was worded, and his response, gives a different impression. Which really shouldn't be that surprising since globalists like Obama and Hillary don't care about open borders or illegals voting - in fact, that's what they want, people voting for more socialism.

Spin??

I'm the one quoting her verbatim while you're the one paraphrasing what she said.

I'm the one linking the entire video where Obama clearly states "...undocumented family and friends who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote." While you're the one who linked an edited version of that video which cut out where clarifies undocumented aliens can't legally vote.

You're a brain-dead knuckle-dragging deplorable-rightard. You lied by posting an edited video and got caught. And because you're a conservative, you can't simply admit you fucked up by posting an edited video that cuts out the part where Obama says illegals can't legally vote, you double down on stupid and proceed to claim Rodriguez said something she didn't say by paraphrasing what she actually said.

She's an American citizen and she asked, "if I vote..."

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I agree with the OP.

Mitt Romney....

John McCain....

Sarah Palin....

Yup. This election has highlighted that this is not the first election to be stolen.In 08, there's was at least plausible deniability. In 12, I called it rigged from the start (and most conservatives here weren't exactly even embracing that). But now that the crowds have shrunk and the wikileaks have came out and the stories of cheating have become more pronounced and the media has become even more corrupt and the contrast has become more stark (running a felon for president), the truth has beome undeniable to anyone who is paying attention.

I remember up till the election of '12, in political science it was pretty SOP everywhere in the world to rely on exit polling as the best way to verify the accuracy of election results.

Then something strange happened. In all the acedemic literature, they started to question the accuracy of these polls. Naturally, there really is nothing to question about these polls. They are random sampled, they tend to skew a little bit toward younger voters, as older folks don't like to talk to pollsters as much, but overall, they are the MOST ACCURATE POLLS ever to tell how folks vote.

But now, the establishment doesn't like them. Actually, now that I think of it, they started this campaign to discredit them in acedemia and the press back when Bush stole his first election, and when they had outside observers notice how badly the election results from the '04 election did not match up with the exit polls, the media just didn't cover it.

The only election since '96 that has been legit has been the '08 election. I shit you not. Your masters have been pulling the wool over your eyes for a long time. No reason you should start caring now.

If you are interested, watch the documentaries Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections or American Blackout.

This shit goes on all the time.

I don't think 08 was legit, honestly. Voter machine manipulation and ballot box stuffing on a mass scale. Media sold Obama as a rock star really well; but in the end does it make much sense that we would vote for a nobody with that much corruption? Nah.

Well, I wish I could agree, but I could find no instances of large scale voter fraud, or exit polling that would make me think it was a stolen election, sorry.

On a personal note, even I know conservatives that drank the kool-aid. I wouldn't be surprised if you do as well.

You don't think that the corporate media can't easily manipulate the exit polls?

The Dems knew how Bush cheated in 04 and applied many of the same lessons and then some in 08. Dude, it's not like the truth about Obama wasn't mostly available for anyone wanting to find it. Sure, some of it came into focus over the years. You really think it makes sense that an invader Muslim wins the election 7 years after 911? Give me a break. I'll tell you who is drinking the kool aid; and it ain't me.

 

[buttercup]

Spin??

I'm the one quoting her verbatim while you're the one paraphrasing what she said.

I'm the one linking the entire video where Obama clearly states "...undocumented family and friends who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote." While you're the one who linked an edited version of that video which cut out where clarifies undocumented aliens can't legally vote.

You're a brain-dead knuckle-dragging deplorable-rightard. You lied by posting an edited video and got caught. And because you're a conservative, you can't simply admit you fucked up by posting an edited video that cuts out the part where Obama says illegals can't legally vote, you double down on stupid and proceed to claim Rodriguez said something she didn't say by paraphrasing what she actually said.

She's an American citizen and she asked, "if I vote..."

Wow. I really touched a nerve with you. I like how you completely ignored my last post (except for one word in it) and you refuse to accept that people can have a different impression of the same interview.

I also like how you ignored my point that the crooks you support don't care about illegal voting, because they want people to vote for socialism (which illegals typically want). And they don't care about illegal immigration, because they want to change the demographics. In fact, the globalists you defend don't care about the law at all, but that's another topic.

Look, I'm not interested in talking to someone with so much hate and rage and vile, nasty language. I'm bored with the "Democrat vs Republican" football mentality that you display, I got tired of that years ago. So unless you can communicate in a more rational and mature way, please don't post to me. Thank you.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I agree should could not win unless it was predetermined and rigged for her.
As luck would have it, the work to rig this election and insure her a win started on June 7 2008. There has been ample time for the democrats to ensure a victory for the United Nations and George Soros by placing their one world government no borders puppet Hillary Clinton in office.

As many outright lies that have been covered up, and acts of treason that have been ignored, the racist comments that even those that should be offended have pushed to the back of the papers, there can be no other explanation.

 

[Billy000]

Ummm, you mean the same polls which accurately predicted the winner for every election since 1936 except 1976 where they were wrong by 1 percentage point and 1948 where they picked Dewey??

18 out of 20 were right ... 90% accuracy...

That's your idea of rigged?

Gee, I wonder why. Did it ever occur to you that the whole thing is rigged, polls and the outcome?

So Obama won twice because "they" decided not to rig it?