Highland Park Shooter in Custody

[JGalt]

I was in the Army and Reserves for 11 years... and what they taught us was that if you fire full auto, you fire in 3-5 round bursts. Otherwise you lose accuracy.

I'm sure he could have fired 700 rounds per minute, if he had 700 rounds available, and didn't bother aiming at his targets.

It's pretty clear he was firing a bump stock.

Speculation now is that the weapon was either a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 or a Kel-Tec SU-16. They're not built on the AR platform. As far as I know, there was never a bumpfire stock manufactured that fit those rifles.

In fact, in some of his social media posts, a Kel-Tec box is seen on the floor...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I was in the Army and Reserves for 11 years... and what they taught us was that if you fire full auto, you fire in 3-5 round bursts. Otherwise you lose accuracy.

That's why more recent versions of the M-16 and M4 have a three-shot burst mode instead of a full-auto mode.

I'm sure he could have fired 700 rounds per minute, if he had 700 rounds available, and didn't bother aiming at his targets.

It's pretty clear he was firing a bump stock.

It's amazing, sometimes, the ignorance that you show compared the experience you claim to have had.

Aiming at one's targets doesn't happen with a bump stock. It's not like firing a genuine full-auto. You have the gun bouncing around in your hands, sending bullets off in random directions. It's why the Las Vegas shooter fired so many rounds, and hit so few people. Most of his shots were wasted, going far away from the crowd that he was targeting.

As you correctly pointed out, true full-auto is very bad for accuracy. Using a bump stock, much more so.

The only thing that a bump stock is good for is wasting ammunition.

 

[JGalt]

That's why more recent versions of the M-16 and M4 have a three-shot burst mode instead of a full-auto mode.



It's amazing, sometimes, the ignorance that you show compared the experience you claim to have had.

Aiming at one's targets doesn't happen with a bump stock. It's not like firing a genuine full-auto. You have the gun bouncing around in your hands, sending bullets off in random directions. It's why the Las Vegas shooter fired so many rounds, and hit so few people. Most of his shots were wasted, going far away from the crowd that he was targeting.

As you correctly pointed out, true full-auto is very bad for accuracy. Using a bump stock, much more so.

The only thing that a bump stock is good for is wasting ammunition.

Even doing that manually without a bumpfire stock with an AR or an AK. But like you said, all it does is turn your rifle into a bullet hose without hitting anything. That used to be fun until the price of ammo went up.

 

[woodwork201]

That's because they were already here, they didn't need to ride on the Mayflower.

No, they weren't already here. They came on the Nina, la Pinta, and Santa Maria...

With your narrow mind, you probably didn't know that Mexico wasn't always Hispanic. They're not the natives there.

 

[woodwork201]

Probably jumped ship from the Niña, Pinta or Santa Maria, and got left behind when they sailed back to Spain.

If I had scrolled I would have known you already pointed this out before I posted it.

 

[JoeB131]

It's amazing, sometimes, the ignorance that you show compared the experience you claim to have had.

Aiming at one's targets doesn't happen with a bump stock. It's not like firing a genuine full-auto. You have the gun bouncing around in your hands, sending bullets off in random directions. It's why the Las Vegas shooter fired so many rounds, and hit so few people. Most of his shots were wasted, going far away from the crowd that he was targeting.

As you correctly pointed out, true full-auto is very bad for accuracy. Using a bump stock, much more so.

The only thing that a bump stock is good for is wasting ammunition.

I think you are missing the point, Mormon Bob, he wasn't very accurate. He only killed 7 people with 60+ rounds fired INTO A CROWD OF PEOPLE. The Las Vegas guy managed to kill 50 or so.

Shit, if they had Hundreds of targets on the range at Ft. Skill, I'd have probably hit at least 7 of them by sheer chance.

In fact, we didn't have "bump stocks" in the service or any of the other silly shit they sell to Ammosexuals to make them feel "manly".

 

[Doc7505]

Yes they do by now.



As noted, everything he had was legal.



There is obviously nothing to gain by discussing things with someone like yourself who insists on repeating things he knows not to be true.

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What is the value in requiring someone to fill out a form that allows them to make false statements?
Then when the ATF form is submitted the person for example Hunter Biden, Bobby Crimo or other felons are passed through the system and not failed.
Certainly there is failure at the start of the system if these people as exampled are allowed to purchase a firearm.

ATF Forms Explained: A Guide to Common Form Types

We break down some of the most common ATF forms you'll encounter while buying guns and even some accessories/parts.

www.pewpewtactical.com

For example:

Are you a fugitive from Justice?​

Are you a user of addicted to drugs?​

Have you been convicted of a felony?​

Are you subject to a court restraining order?​

Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective?​

Are you an Illegal alien?​

Have you been Dishonorably discharged from the Military?​

(These are brief questions not necessarily in the order or the specific wording used.)

 

[pknopp]

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What is the value in requiring someone to fill out a form that allows them to make false statements?

The same can be said about filing out any form.

 

[Doc7505]

They appear to have arrested the dumbass.

Suspect in custody after 6 killed, dozens wounded in mass shooting at Highland Park July 4th parade

Robert "Bobby" Crimo III was arrested after a police chase from North Chicago to Lake Forest. Charges are pending.

www.cbsnews.com

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Despite Considerable Evidence of Highland Park Shooter’s Ties to Antifa, Progressives, Socialists and the Occult, ​

Media Insists He’s Right Wing​

Despite Considerable Evidence of Highland Park Shooter's Ties to Antifa, Progressives, Socialists and the Occult, Media Insists He's Right Wing -- They Ignored His Twitter Page | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

On Monday, the 4th of July, Bobby Crimo, shot and killed 6 people in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park and injured many others. The media was quick to label him right-wing despite evidence to the contrary. Almost immediately, there were reports that the shooter Bobby Crimo was right-wing...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

6 Jul 2022 ~~ By Joe Hoft

On Monday, the 4th of July, Bobby Crimo, shot and killed 6 people in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park and injured many others. The media was quick to label him right-wing despite evidence to the contrary.
Almost immediately, there were reports that the shooter Bobby Crimo was right-wing. This video is from a local news channel in Chicago where Crimo was connected to “a far-right overseas group”.
~Snip~
On Tuesday TGP reported on the many ties between Crimo and socialists, progressives, Antifa and the Occult. This was what the media didn’t share.

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Information Uncovered Overnight Shows Highland Park Shooter, Bobby Crimo, Is Tied to Socialists, Progressives, Antifa and the Occult | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

Police arrested Robert ‘Bobby’ Crimo III’, age 22, yesterday following the shooting in Highland Park, Illinois. Crimo killed six and injured over 20 more individuals at the 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois. On Tuesday The Gateway Pundit uncovered information indicating Crimo is a...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

~Snip~
A copy of Crimo’s Twitter account was saved before being taken down and it clearly shows Crimo’s far-left leanings. He’s pushing far-left publications and far-left politicians like Obama. He’s not far-right – at all.
~Snip~
There’s still more to learn about this murderer’s motives and actions but based on what we do know today, to label this guy a Trump supporter is just plain false. He’s a far-left killer.


Commentary:
There's no way people can look at 'Soyboi' Crimo's photos and think "Trump supporter".
This is a huge Progressive Maoist/DSA Democrat Commie propagandist fail.
Better just to move on and memory hole this guy.
It is no wonder that few SANE Americans trust the lying Quisling leftist media. One look at those face and neck tattoos tells you that this is a Leftist DEMOCRAT!
FJB and the lying MSM propagandists!

 

[JoeB131]

Commentary:
There's no way people can look at 'Soyboi' Crimo's photos and think "Trump supporter".

Really? Frankly, Trump supporters are mostly a freak show.

 

[woodwork201]

I was in the Army and Reserves for 11 years... and what they taught us was that if you fire full auto, you fire in 3-5 round bursts. Otherwise you lose accuracy.

I'm sure he could have fired 700 rounds per minute, if he had 700 rounds available, and didn't bother aiming at his targets.

It's pretty clear he was firing a bump stock.

Betcha 200 bucks there was no bump stock involved. Payable to the USMB Server fund on the right of the page... Bet?

Edit to add, you may have been in the Army but you never fired an AR-15. This guy was firing very slowly. If you think that's rapid fire then it's clear you have zero experience shooting a gun.

 

[woodwork201]

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Despite Considerable Evidence of Highland Park Shooter’s Ties to Antifa, Progressives, Socialists and the Occult, ​

Media Insists He’s Right Wing​

Despite Considerable Evidence of Highland Park Shooter's Ties to Antifa, Progressives, Socialists and the Occult, Media Insists He's Right Wing -- They Ignored His Twitter Page | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

On Monday, the 4th of July, Bobby Crimo, shot and killed 6 people in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park and injured many others. The media was quick to label him right-wing despite evidence to the contrary. Almost immediately, there were reports that the shooter Bobby Crimo was right-wing...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

6 Jul 2022 ~~ By Joe Hoft

On Monday, the 4th of July, Bobby Crimo, shot and killed 6 people in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park and injured many others. The media was quick to label him right-wing despite evidence to the contrary.
Almost immediately, there were reports that the shooter Bobby Crimo was right-wing. This video is from a local news channel in Chicago where Crimo was connected to “a far-right overseas group”.
~Snip~
On Tuesday TGP reported on the many ties between Crimo and socialists, progressives, Antifa and the Occult. This was what the media didn’t share.

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Information Uncovered Overnight Shows Highland Park Shooter, Bobby Crimo, Is Tied to Socialists, Progressives, Antifa and the Occult | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

Police arrested Robert ‘Bobby’ Crimo III’, age 22, yesterday following the shooting in Highland Park, Illinois. Crimo killed six and injured over 20 more individuals at the 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois. On Tuesday The Gateway Pundit uncovered information indicating Crimo is a...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

~Snip~
A copy of Crimo’s Twitter account was saved before being taken down and it clearly shows Crimo’s far-left leanings. He’s pushing far-left publications and far-left politicians like Obama. He’s not far-right – at all.
~Snip~
There’s still more to learn about this murderer’s motives and actions but based on what we do know today, to label this guy a Trump supporter is just plain false. He’s a far-left killer.


Commentary:
There's no way people can look at 'Soyboi' Crimo's photos and think "Trump supporter".
This is a huge Progressive Maoist/DSA Democrat Commie propagandist fail.
Better just to move on and memory hole this guy.
It is no wonder that few SANE Americans trust the lying Quisling leftist media. One look at those face and neck tattoos tells you that this is a Leftist DEMOCRAT!
FJB and the lying MSM propagandists!

No 2nd Amendment supporter would do something like this because these things lead to reducing freedoms, not defending freedoms.

Trump supporters defend the Constitution. Anarchists, Antifa, BLM, Biden voters, and Democrats in general, try to destroy the Constitution.

 

[pknopp]

No 2nd Amendment supporter would do something like this because these things lead to reducing freedoms, not defending freedoms.

Trump supporters defend the Constitution. Anarchists, Antifa, BLM, Biden voters, and Democrats in general, try to destroy the Constitution.

Most of those who argue to just allow the police to violate your rights seem to be Trump supporters.

 

[JoeB131]

Betcha 200 bucks there was no bump stock involved. Payable to the USMB Server fund on the right of the page... Bet?

Edit to add, you may have been in the Army but you never fired an AR-15. This guy was firing very slowly. If you think that's rapid fire then it's clear you have zero experience shooting a gun.

We always get all the self appointed weapons experts when there's a mass shooting.

It is to laugh.

He fired 70 rounds in a very short time... that's pretty impressive.

 

[woodwork201]

We always get all the self appointed weapons experts when there's a mass shooting.

It is to laugh.

He fired 70 rounds in a very short time... that's pretty impressive.

Pussy. You're nothing but a loud, obnoxious, pussy. Unless you will back up your crap with your wallet, you're a pussy.

 

[JoeB131]

Pussy. You're nothing but a loud, obnoxious, pussy. Unless you will back up your crap with your wallet, you're a pussy.

You work on the assumption I care if there was a bump stock or not.

It's kind of besides the point. But then again, you are a stupid person.

 

[woodwork201]

Most of those who argue to just allow the police to violate your rights seem to be Trump supporters.

There is that. There are many Trump supporters and other conservatives who are more authoritarian than they are constitutionalists. In fact, this condition exists on the left as well.

I find it odd that so many who argue the protection of the Constitution for our right to keep and bear arms are OK with the Government ignoring the Constitution in other cases.

There are far too many on both sides that love the Constitution when it supports them and love for the Government to violate it against others.

 

[woodwork201]

You work on the assumption I care if there was a bump stock or not.

It's kind of besides the point. But then again, you are a stupid person.

You're the one who kept insisting that he had to have used a bump stock or full auto because he fired 70 shots in just 3 minutes. And then you make smartass comments about gun experts popping up every time there's a shooting.. and now, after you've lost the argument, you don't want to talk about bump stocks.

Like I said, you're not a serious debater on any topic; you're only here to troll and disrupt; to make noise.

 

[JoeB131]

You're the one who kept insisting that he had to have used a bump stock or full auto because he fired 70 shots in just 3 minutes. And then you make smartass comments about gun experts popping up every time there's a shooting.. and now, after you've lost the argument, you don't want to talk about bump stocks.

Like I said, you're not a serious debater on any topic; you're only here to troll and disrupt; to make noise.

Talking about a bump stock in this discussion is like complaining that Jeff Dahmner used his salad fork instead of the entre fork when eating his lovers.

It kind of misses the point of the whole problem here.

Because you are kind of dopey, I'll point it out again.

A mentally unstable person was able to buy FIVE guns, despite the police being called to his house to break up domestic fights, despite a whole slew of social media posts showing his mental instability, and used one of those guns to kill 7 people and injure 45 others. Assuming those 45 others were all injured by gunfire and not in the stampede/melee, that means that he fired 70 shots and hit 52 people.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Talking about a bump stock in this discussion is like complaining that Jeff Dahmner used his salad fork instead of the entre fork when eating his lovers.

You're the one who claimed he was using a bump stock. A quick search shows that the first two mentions in this thread of a bump stock were yours.

You only backed off from harping on the bump stock when it became clearer that there was no bump stock.