Hi you all - a little about me:

[Newtonian]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

 

[MindWars]

Good luck you soon learn who the board a** kissers are. You know they are the teachers pets it's not hard to see who they are you'll learn real quick who they listen to when their pets report and tattle. But hey ifi you hate Trump you are good to go they'll lick the dog crap off your shoes if you " TELL" them to. Sry I tell it like it is and most can't stand NOT BEING FAKE>

Have a good time on the board it is a great board when you learn who the a.kissers/pets are.

If I didn't like this place so much I wouldn't still be here and tech. it's a miracle I am still here so we do have sweet sweet Mods/ site owners...... Other wise if this were a SOLEY sucky place I would have been gone a long long time ago.

I thank those who brought me back time and time again... be it were a mod etc...

Tech. I never stop over here not sure why I did today bahahahahah.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Welcome! MindWars is alright in an Alex Jones-y type of way.

The mods here are the best on the internet! It gets no better than this!

You say you like intelligent discussion. It can be found..at times.

PS: Don't eat the cookies or doughnuts!

 

[MindWars]

Welcome! MindWars is alright in an Alex Jones-y type of way.

The mods here are the best on the internet! It gets no better than this!

You say you like intelligent discussion. It can be found..at times.

PS: Don't eat the cookies or doughnuts!

There is only 1 mod who is a HUGE ASSHOLE! lol but thenn again everyone thinks someone is an a.hole no matter who htey are smile your on FBI snitch ring bhahhaha. You know the site changed over looks and feels a little like face book and all same little tattle system bahahah.

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, plague is only 100 years old. No plagues before the spanish flu.
Thanks for the info

 

[Votto]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

Well I got news for ya, plagues did not start in 1914, so.......

But welcome to the site. Now here is a little education for ya! Here is how Christians over the centuries have helped the sick and dying. They essentially started hospitals.

Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine





— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.

 

[Marion Morrison]

^Normally I'd TL ; DR that, but that's pretty cool!

 

[MindWars]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

Well I got news for ya, plagues did not start in 1914, so.......

But welcome to the site. Now here is a little education for ya! Here is how Christians over the centuries have helped the sick and dying. They essentially started hospitals.

Christian History Timeline: Healthcare and Hospitals in the Mission of the Church | Christian History Magazine





— Early 2nd century: Christians by this time have developed church infrastructure to assist the sick. This assistance is usually led by deacons and deaconesses and focuses on palliative care.
— Late 2nd century: Galen (c. 131–201) practices as a physician and publishes the medical treatises that will form the basis of Western medicine for centuries.
— 250–51: Devastating plague spreads throughout the Western Roman Empire, causing the church to expand its program of benevolence. The church at Rome is said to minister to 1,500 widows and others in need, spending annually an estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 sesterces.
— 4th century: Bishops in the eastern half of the empire begin to establish xenodocheia as Christian welfare institutions for the sick and poor.
— 330: Basil of Caesarea (c. 330–379) is born into a Christian family from Cappadocia in Asia Minor (central Turkey).
—360: Basil founds his hospital in Cappadocia; he is ordained bishop in 370.
— The decades after 370: In Constantinople, Alexandria, and throughout the Eastern empire, many hospitals are founded on the example of Basil’s great “Basileum.”
— Late 4th century: John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) tells us that the Great Church in Antioch, Syria, supported 3,000 widows and unmarried women, as well as the sick, the poor, and travelers.
— Late 4th century: Fabiola (d. 399?) establishes first Roman hospitals.
— 540: The Nestorians, having been forced to flee after the Council of Ephesus (431) declared them heretics, found a hospital at Gondishapur on the Persian Gulf which becomes a center of medical knowledge from a number of traditions: Persian, Alexandrian, Greek, Jewish, Hindu, and Chinese.
— 526: Benedict of Nursia (c. 480–c. 530) founds his monastery at Monte Cassino. His Rule emphasizes hospitality to the stranger.
— 541–749: Repeated waves of bubonic plague strike and devastate the Eastern empire.
— 549–580: First hospitals founded in France and Spain.
— 7th century: Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636) publishes Etymologiae, an encyclopedia of classical learning that includes a lengthy guide to Greek medicine.
— 7th century: The Venerable Bede (c. 672–735) collects and publishes medical writings.
— 9th century: Medical School at Salerno founded.
— 937: First hospital built in England.
— 9th–10th centuries: Benedictine monks in the West preserve ancient medical science during a time of unrest as they copy medical manuscripts, maintain herb gardens, and experiment with elixirs to cure diseases. Hospitals enter period of decline, lack of funds, and in some cases destruction, but many bishops and clergy still work to do what they can for the poor.
— 9th–10th centuries: Jerusalem Hospital founded by a community of Augustinians.
— 1099: First Crusade arrives in Jerusalem and new building erected for the Jerusalem Hospital, funded by donations of grateful and wealthy crusaders.
— By 11th century: a succession of Benedictine monks at the Medical School at Salerno, in cooperation with Jewish translators, have translated many Greek and Arabic medical texts into Latin, re-introducing them to the West. The most popular translated texts are known as the Articella (Little Art of Medicine) and include Hippocrates and Galen.
— 12th century: Religious orders devoted to the care of the sick begin to arise, most of them following the Rule of St. Augustine (based on writings of St. Augustine of Hippo [354–430] although not traceable directly to him).
— 12th century: Observers describe the hospital in Jerusalem as capable of
housing around 1,000 patients in as many as 11 wards. Muslim and Jewish patients are welcome too, and are fed chicken in place of pork.
— Early 12th century: Franciscan order of mendicant (“begging&rdquo brothers arises from the life and work of Francis of Assisi (1182–1226). ranciscans and other similar orders (Dominicans, Carmelites) originally own no property, and emphasize works of mercy and identification with the poor.
— 1113: Brothers of Hospital of St. John, later Knights Hospitaller, established as first international religious order.
— 12th century: Master Raymond du Puy (1120–1160) instructs the Knights Hospitaller on “How our Lords the Sick should be received and served.”
— 12th century: Full development of the doctrine of purgatory out of earlier ideas of the necessity of doing penance for sins. This provides further impetus for Christian almsgiving. — 1136: Construction begins on the Pantokrator, the greatest of Byzantine hospitals.
— c. 1145–early 13th century: Augustinian brothers from Montpellier in France organize hospitals dedicated to the Holy Spirit, first in France and then (1204) in Rome. The order and the hospitals founded by them spread widely throughout Europe.
— 1157: Cistercians (a reform movement of Benedictines) forbid monk physicians to treat laypeople. (This is in part to prevent them from developing lucrative and distracting private businesses.)
— 1187: Saladin captures Jerusalem and forces Knights Hospitaller to leave. They found other hospitals in the Holy Land.
— 1191: Teutonic Order founded in the Holy Land as a brotherhood devoted to the service of the sick; later moves its base of operations to Germany.
— 12th–13th century: The rise of the mendicants and devotion to the Passion radically increases the number of hospitals founded in Western Europe. Hundreds of leprosaria are also built to deal with an epidemic of leprosy. — Early 13th century: Pope Innocent III (1160–1216, made pope 1198) promotes the new outpouring of piety among the mendicant orders.
— 1207: Innocent III adds “burying the dead” to the six works of mercy noted in Matthew 25 (feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving shelter to strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned); these became known as the Seven Comfortable Works.
— 13th century: Elizabeth of Hungary (1207–1231) becomes a symbol of Christian charity; widowed at 20, she gives her wealth to the poor and builds hospitals.
— 13th century: Regimen sanitatis salernitatum is compiled, one of the most famous of medieval “regimens”; it supposedly originates at the Medical School at Salerno.
— 13th century: Earliest known contracts for public physicians (employed by towns and cities) in Italy. This system spreads throughout Europe by the early 16th century.
— 13th–16th centuries: Over 150 hospitals founded in Germany.
— 14th century: Black Death (probably bubonic plague) ravages Europe. St. Roche (1295?–1370) becomes known for his miraculous cures of many plague
sufferers.
— 14th–15th centuries: Guilds of surgeons, barbers, and physicians
begin to develop in Europe.
— 16th century: Order of St. John of God begins building hospitals for the insane in Spain.

LOL r u guys going at it already.

 

[OldLady]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

 

[Newtonian]

Yes, plague is only 100 years old. No plagues before the spanish flu.
Thanks for the info

Is it proper to discuss topics like pestilence on this thread? Assuming it is:

The Spanish Influenza was the worst plague in history from before 1918 - hopefully this current pestilence will not be worse. Note also that the 1918 pandemic killed 20 million people worldwide in just one year - and spread to all but 2 islands if I remember correctly. Also that flu strain was also a virus - man has not progressed much in curing viruses.

All that Jesus foretold for the last days began in 1914 - not just pestilence. I posted on that because we are in a pandemic right now.

 

[miketx]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

Welcome, just please don't knock on my door.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

Welcome.

Step carefully here. Dogs run free.

 

[OldLady]

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and am interested in both Biblical research and scientific research. I am also into the environment as we believe earth is a gift to man from God (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18 KJV). My wife and I are organic gardeners but are now elderly so we don't do as much gardening as we used to.

In view of current events, Jesus foretold pestilence/plague as a sign of the last days (Luke 21:11) which we believe began in 1914 when WWI began and that therefore the Spanish influenza of 1918, which killed c. 20 million people that year, was part of the beginning of the last days. Not sure if the current Corona/Covid 19 plague/pandemic is part of the end of the last days.

I love doing research and especially researching answers to questions. I hate debating, but like discussing subjects with those who may not agree with us/me.

Welcome, Newtonian! It's good to have you on board! I'm sorry you happened in when two of our more unpleasant posters were looking for something to do. Please don't judge us all based on them.

Well, I don't know if your life is upside down because of the virus; hope not. Do you live somewhere that Spring has sprung? Here in Maine it's a long time 'til green, but I keep dreaming of daffodils.

Make yourself comfortable and take a look around. Have a donut, fresh this morning.

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, plague is only 100 years old. No plagues before the spanish flu.
Thanks for the info

Is it proper to discuss topics like pestilence on this thread? Assuming it is:

The Spanish Influenza was the worst plague in history from before 1918 - hopefully this current pestilence will not be worse. Note also that the 1918 pandemic killed 20 million people worldwide in just one year - and spread to all but 2 islands if I remember correctly. Also that flu strain was also a virus - man has not progressed much in curing viruses.

All that Jesus foretold for the last days began in 1914 - not just pestilence. I posted on that because we are in a pandemic right now.

The black plague killed up to 200m people. It wiped out 50 percent of europe.
The plague of Justinian killed up to 50m people and that was 1500 years ago..
Seems you are distorting reality to fit your theory.

 

[Newtonian]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

I will ignore posts like what you are referring to. Thank you for the good advice - religion and ethics forum I will hopefully find and post at.

 

[TNHarley]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

What do you expect to hapoen with an OP like that?
Honestly..

 

[TNHarley]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

I will ignore posts like what you are referring to. Thank you for the good advice - religion and ethics forum I will hopefully find and post at.

Just dont post the theory in your OP. It has already been killed lol

 

[OldLady]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

I will ignore posts like what you are referring to. Thank you for the good advice - religion and ethics forum I will hopefully find and post at.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with the donuts. Marion is just yanking my chain.

 

[OldLady]

WILL YOU GUYS KNOCK IT OFF??? THIS IS INTRODUCTIONS. MindWars, no one cares if you broke the rules again and got reported. I'm sure it is our fate to have you with us forever, regardless of the nonsense you're always very badly composing into semi-English. Votto, take it to the religion and ethics forum. Same for anyone else.

I will ignore posts like what you are referring to. Thank you for the good advice - religion and ethics forum I will hopefully find and post at.

Just dont post the theory in your OP. It has already been killed lol

Since when does another guy's religion get you so bent out of shape? A lot of posters here think end times are coming. At least he's not damning us all to hell. Give him a break.

 

[Sunni Man]

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