Hey republicans, how exactly are we supposed to fix the stagnant wage problem?

[rightwinger]

The other main reason wages are so low is that employers have too many pesky rules and regulations. If we get rid of environmental restrictions and labor laws think how much more money employers would have available to pay their workforce. Is there any reason children should not be allowed to work? Think of all the extra money they could bring the family

 

[Papageorgio]

What wage problem?

You mean the 10s of millions of Americans who make less than $15 an hour? The fact that 40% of the nation's wealth is owned by the top 1% of earners?

The economy is booming, look at all the new jobs every month, unemployment is going down, not sure where the problem is.

The problem is that the jobs being created are low wage jobs.

The jobs this President has created are not good jobs? I have heard how he has created a record number of jobs, why didn't he create better paying jobs?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

How does artificially increasing the wages through government fix the problem? All you end up doing is raising level of what we consider poverty. Now poverty will be those making less than twenty an hour instead of those making less than fifteen.

you inflate the cost of living with government intervention and you price the unskilled workers out of the market and force companies to move production overseas.

how does that benefit anyone?

let people be free to make their own career decisions. You'd be shocked at what will happen

It really wouldn't actually. Raising the mininmum wage to 15 gradually over a couple of years will only raise prices slightly and the increase in consumer spending would keep prices stable. This also has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10 per hour was the 1960s.

There is no evidence raising the wage causes inflation. For one thing, we've raised the wage several times and the economy responded fine.

You aren't taking into account the long term benefit of raising the minimum wage. Yes initially it will cost capital but over time the boost in consumer spending will benefit the economy.

Why do you liberals always leave out the one pesky problem with your $15.00 min wage bullshit?
You claim it wont raise prices to give ONLY min wage workers that magic $15.00 dollars an hour.
What about all the other people who actually have a job that they WORKED hard to reach that $15.00 dollar an hour mark?
What are you going to do for them? And the people who make twenty an hour,are you now going to pay them $27.00 dollars an hour?
If you're so damn stupid you're flipping burgers as an adult ....? Tough shit!!

Well you have a point about people who worked hard to get to 15, but their feelings is not nearly enough to justify not raising it.

And this is why you get a hardy..**** YOU from all hard working Americans who put out the effort to do the right thing with their future.
You cannot pay someone 15 bucks for flipping burgers when the manager makes the same. How can you not understand this basic fact?
You have no choice but to give the manager an equal raise,and so on and so forth up the line.
So do you still think the cost will be minimal?

 

[Avatar4321]

Another thing Republicans can do to increase wages is get rid of pesky unions. Give employers free reign over their employees and they will reward them with higher wages and benefits. If you can't trust your employer to look out for your best interests....who can you trust

yourself. Which is why abdicating responsibility for what you earn to the government or a union will ultimately provide a dead end to your ability to create wealth

 

[Avatar4321]

How does artificially increasing the wages through government fix the problem? All you end up doing is raising level of what we consider poverty. Now poverty will be those making less than twenty an hour instead of those making less than fifteen.

you inflate the cost of living with government intervention and you price the unskilled workers out of the market and force companies to move production overseas.

how does that benefit anyone?

let people be free to make their own career decisions. You'd be shocked at what will happen

It really wouldn't actually. Raising the mininmum wage to 15 gradually over a couple of years will only raise prices slightly and the increase in consumer spending would keep prices stable. This also has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10 per hour was the 1960s.

There is no evidence raising the wage causes inflation. For one thing, we've raised the wage several times and the economy responded fine.

You aren't taking into account the long term benefit of raising the minimum wage. Yes initially it will cost capital but over time the boost in consumer spending will benefit the economy.

Why do you liberals always leave out the one pesky problem with your $15.00 min wage bullshit?
You claim it wont raise prices to give ONLY min wage workers that magic $15.00 dollars an hour.
What about all the other people who actually have a job that they WORKED hard to reach that $15.00 dollar an hour mark?
What are you going to do for them? And the people who make twenty an hour,are you now going to pay them $27.00 dollars an hour?
If you're so damn stupid you're flipping burgers as an adult ....? Tough shit!!

Well you have a point about people who worked hard to get to 15, but their feelings is not nearly enough to justify not raising it.

so screw them. And screw the people making minimum wage that are going to be fired.

did it ever occur to you that if you have to screw people over to get your way, that your way isn't good?

 

[Avatar4321]

How does artificially increasing the wages through government fix the problem? All you end up doing is raising level of what we consider poverty. Now poverty will be those making less than twenty an hour instead of those making less than fifteen.

you inflate the cost of living with government intervention and you price the unskilled workers out of the market and force companies to move production overseas.

how does that benefit anyone?

let people be free to make their own career decisions. You'd be shocked at what will happen

It really wouldn't actually. Raising the mininmum wage to 15 gradually over a couple of years will only raise prices slightly and the increase in consumer spending would keep prices stable. This also has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10 per hour was the 1960s.

There is no evidence raising the wage causes inflation. For one thing, we've raised the wage several times and the economy responded fine.

You aren't taking into account the long term benefit of raising the minimum wage. Yes initially it will cost capital but over time the boost in consumer spending will benefit the economy.

Why do you liberals always leave out the one pesky problem with your $15.00 min wage bullshit?
You claim it wont raise prices to give ONLY min wage workers that magic $15.00 dollars an hour.
What about all the other people who actually have a job that they WORKED hard to reach that $15.00 dollar an hour mark?
What are you going to do for them? And the people who make twenty an hour,are you now going to pay them $27.00 dollars an hour?
If you're so damn stupid you're flipping burgers as an adult ....? Tough shit!!

Well you have a point about people who worked hard to get to 15, but their feelings is not nearly enough to justify not raising it.

so screw them. And screw the people making minimum wage that are going to be fired.

did it ever occur to you that if you have to screw people over to get your way, that your way isn't good?

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you want to make more money get off your ample ass and get a second part time job and PRESTO you are making more money.

Told ya. I coulda written your bullshit answer for ya.

It's too bad that the simple fact that working more equals more income eludes you sheep.

 

[rightwinger]

Another thing Republicans can do to increase wages is get rid of pesky unions. Give employers free reign over their employees and they will reward them with higher wages and benefits. If you can't trust your employer to look out for your best interests....who can you trust

yourself. Which is why abdicating responsibility for what you earn to the government or a union will ultimately provide a dead end to your ability to create wealth

Hell yea!

Make each employee negotiate as an individual. That collective bargaining crap is nothing more than socialism

 

[true_american]

Another thing Republicans can do to increase wages is get rid of pesky unions. Give employers free reign over their employees and they will reward them with higher wages and benefits. If you can't trust your employer to look out for your best interests....who can you trust

yourself. Which is why abdicating responsibility for what you earn to the government or a union will ultimately provide a dead end to your ability to create wealth

Hell yea!

Make each employee negotiate as an individual. That collective bargaining crap is nothing more than socialism

Amen haha. There is a good reason why the top companies in the world fire their bottom 10-20%. Why would you keep "dead weight" around not contributing to the greater good. There is always someone waiting to take your place.

 

[RKMBrown]

If republicans are too immature to admit the low wage problem can't be fixed through forcefully raising the minimum wage, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Since the recession there has been a significant decrease of high wage jobs and a significant increase of low wage jobs. How do we fix poverty if 10s of millions of Americans HAVE NO CHOICE but to accept low wage jobs?

Let's pretend republicans had full control over this issue. What would republicans do to boost wages? I want specific answers. Don't give me crap like "undo democratic bullshit of the last 6 years derp derp derp". I want SPECIFIC AND DETAILED steps on how we are supposed to boost wages in this county if raising the minimum wage isn't an option.

You have to analyze the roots of the issue. Then determine a route to solving them that does not make the problem worse. I believe I have the answers but I'm not convinced you want to listen.

Increasing minimum wage without addressing the roots of our problems only makes these problems worse.

The biggest problem America is facing right now, the reason our labor market is a buyers market, is that it's more expensive to produce and service products in the USA. It's just that simple. Making that problem even worse isn't going to bring more and/or higher paying jobs here, just the opposite.

At one point in time American Factories and Engineering shops could out produce everyone else. Then we brought everyone here to show them EXACTLY how we do it. They went back and copied us, in many cases we sent Americans offshore to reproduce American factories and Engineering shops on foreign soil.

We used to build nuclear power plants. We used to build refineries. We have tons of coal and clean burning coal power plants. Now we pay china to build us solar power plants that are practically useless, while we close our clean burning coal power plants, and allow lawyers to make it too expensive to build a nuclear power plant in this country.

We used to have a government that looked out for us and treated socialism and communism as the enemy... now we have a government that treats us as the enemy, pays people in the USA to do nothing, and sends tax dollars to socialist and communist countries.

 

[RKMBrown]

What wage problem?

The declining wage of the private sector, the doubling of wages in the public sector, the oligopoly on executive wages in public-ally traded corporations.... But more particularly, the movement of high paying jobs off-shore, and the movement of illegals and h1b visa workers into the states that is artificially pushing American wages down.

 

[RKMBrown]

The other main reason wages are so low is that employers have too many pesky rules and regulations. If we get rid of environmental restrictions and labor laws think how much more money employers would have available to pay their workforce. Is there any reason children should not be allowed to work? Think of all the extra money they could bring the family

Should it be ok for companies to ship products built without those pesky rules and regulations to the states? Should it be ok for companies to ship products built with children to the states? Should it be ok for companies to hire people for less than American minimum wages over seas and ship those products to the states?

Why is it ok for these things to happen off shore, then those products come here on ships and put on American shelves? It's better that way because that stuff did not happen in our back yard?

 

[BluesLegend]

If republicans are too immature to admit the low wage problem can't be fixed through forcefully raising the minimum wage, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages?

Oh for ***** sakes libs pull your heads out of your ass already. The only solution is economic growth yet liberal policies and regulations kill growth, irony. Your clown idiot in the White House is about to release yet another 3,500 growth killing regulations this Friday.

 

[Darkwind]

Well, you start by NOT giving this guy a raise in pay..

That way, the employer has more money for employees who are actually worth something.

 

[RKMBrown]

Another thing Republicans can do to increase wages is get rid of pesky unions. Give employers free reign over their employees and they will reward them with higher wages and benefits. If you can't trust your employer to look out for your best interests....who can you trust

yourself. Which is why abdicating responsibility for what you earn to the government or a union will ultimately provide a dead end to your ability to create wealth

Hell yea!

Make each employee negotiate as an individual. That collective bargaining crap is nothing more than socialism

Amen haha. There is a good reason why the top companies in the world fire their bottom 10-20%. Why would you keep "dead weight" around not contributing to the greater good. There is always someone waiting to take your place.

I was at this "company" that fired the bottom 5-10% every quarter for about 8years straight. When it's only done once a year it's no big deal but when you do it every quarter, and your head count goes from 300k to 90k in 8years... well let's just say it goes from dead weight to dropping entire departments, buildings, and divisions. It goes from common sense layoffs to wholesale off-shoring of American jobs to china and India.

 

[rightwinger]

The other main reason wages are so low is that employers have too many pesky rules and regulations. If we get rid of environmental restrictions and labor laws think how much more money employers would have available to pay their workforce. Is there any reason children should not be allowed to work? Think of all the extra money they could bring the family

Should it be ok for companies to ship products built without those pesky rules and regulations to the states? Should it be ok for companies to ship products built with children to the states? Should it be ok for companies to hire people for less than American minimum wages over seas and ship those products to the states?

Why is it ok for these things to happen off shore, then those products come here on ships and put on American shelves? It's better that way because that stuff did not happen in our back yard?

I agree

Our labor standards should be based on those in China.....look how well they are doing

 

[RKMBrown]

The other main reason wages are so low is that employers have too many pesky rules and regulations. If we get rid of environmental restrictions and labor laws think how much more money employers would have available to pay their workforce. Is there any reason children should not be allowed to work? Think of all the extra money they could bring the family

Should it be ok for companies to ship products built without those pesky rules and regulations to the states? Should it be ok for companies to ship products built with children to the states? Should it be ok for companies to hire people for less than American minimum wages over seas and ship those products to the states?

Why is it ok for these things to happen off shore, then those products come here on ships and put on American shelves? It's better that way because that stuff did not happen in our back yard?

I agree

Our labor standards should be based on those in China.....look how well they are doing

I've got a better idea why don't we just throw rocks at each other.

 

[true_american]

Another thing Republicans can do to increase wages is get rid of pesky unions. Give employers free reign over their employees and they will reward them with higher wages and benefits. If you can't trust your employer to look out for your best interests....who can you trust

yourself. Which is why abdicating responsibility for what you earn to the government or a union will ultimately provide a dead end to your ability to create wealth

Hell yea!

Make each employee negotiate as an individual. That collective bargaining crap is nothing more than socialism

Amen haha. There is a good reason why the top companies in the world fire their bottom 10-20%. Why would you keep "dead weight" around not contributing to the greater good. There is always someone waiting to take your place.

I was at this "company" that fired the bottom 5-10% every quarter for about 8years straight. When it's only done once a year it's no big deal but when you do it every quarter, and your head count goes from 300k to 90k in 8years... well let's just say it goes from dead weight to dropping entire departments, buildings, and divisions. It goes from common sense layoffs to wholesale off-shoring of American jobs to china and India.

I love this country and it has provided an unbelievable lifestyle for my family and me. However, in a global economy can the term "American" jobs really be used? I would say the same thing about Canadian jobs, German, etc. because it implies possession. 98% of the time companies will not let talent walk out of the door. If a man/woman is an up-and-comer or proven record and their department is being phased out then they will be moved elsewhere. How do you think they decided to keep the 90K in your example and fire the other 210K? Answer, they are replaceable.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

"Tax cuts dont pay for themselves"....

As if that revenue was produced by the treasury and owed back.... Only an ignorant communist could believe that.

LMFAO

 

[Papageorgio]

This year we are doing some hiring, unlike in the past years, we are now paying more because the labor pool of the people we need to fill these jogs has shrunk. So, a guy we hired a year ago we would have offered $25 an hour, we are now offering $28 an hour. We have positions that paid $10 an hour a year ago, we are now hiring them at $10.30 an hour.

Our management positions have also increased as well, jobs at $75,000 a year are now $85,000 to $90,000 a year.

It is called supply and demand, we have a guy we are hiring at the $28 an hour rate and he is going to school at night to add to his skills to make himself, as he put it, more "marketable" and will probably get a raise when he is finished with his schooling, plus we will help with the schooling.

We offer the same to the lower wage workers, they rarely take advantage of the chance to advance their education in this field.

We have one young fellow that is going to school for a different industry, he started at $10 and he is making more because he has shown an interest in his work here and seems motivated.