Here's why they cannot indict Trump, no matter how many classified documents that he failed to return they find

[Foolardi]

Mueller's team said in its report that Kilimnik was believed to “have ties to Russian intelligence,” and that Kilimnik had received the Trump campaign information from Manafort, but did not say what he did with it after receiving it. This would be considered textbook conspiracy.

Yer Goose is cooked.You have as much credibility as Ted Bundy thought he had
when traipsing around sucking-up to notable Pols to be part of their
clique.Yer Demonic Democrat Clique of Lies,liars and cheats knows
no bounds.I think somehow you were potty trained at the wrong
place.Instead of the YMCA yer parents experimented and took yuz
to YWCA as a lesson in perseverance.
Plus a suitcase full of different color Bras and panties.Like what
Hunter Biden could adapt towards.

 

[Winco]

I mean,whatever Manafort was charged and jailed for ... This
Hunter Biden is 10 times more guilty.And that's merely on
the surface.Digging in ... Hunter Biden may be worthy of Espionage.
Not passive Espionage but the kind that in centuries past
meant going before a firing squad like the infamous spy ..
Mata Hari.On second thought ... did his laptop have photos of
him in ladies undies.I tink they did.

Manafort is GUILTY.
He Pleaded Guilty.





Hunter, who is Hunter.

 

[Foolardi]

Manafort is GUILTY.
He Pleaded Guilty.





Hunter, who is Hunter.

Thompson ... The one and only Gonzo Journalist who Bill
Murray portrayed in - Where the Buffalo Roam - { 1980 }
Hunter was a political animal who loved pistols and drank
to excess and out partied most all others.I had a chance to party
with him at the University of Kentucky.He managed to steal a bag
of primo weed from my buddy.
He was legit as The definitive Gonzo journalist.
This Hunter Biden is nothing but a piker.A Daddy's boy.
Worst kind of rich kid.

 

[Winco]

Thompson ... The one and only Gonzo Journalist who Bill
Murray portrayed in - Where the Buffalo Roam - { 1980 }
Hunter was a political animal who loved pistols and drank
to excess and out partied most all others.I had a chance to party
with him at the University of Kentucky.He managed to steal a bag
of primo weed from my buddy.
He was legit as The definitive Gonzo journalist.
This Hunter Biden is nothing but a piker.A Daddy's boy.
Worst kind of rich kid.

This is some HOW proof of Hunter .......... Whatever,

 

[struth]

That's a conspiracy goober.

yes you have a wild conspiracy with no actual facts


agreed

 

[scruffy]

"Libtards"?

And you're calling someone else childish??

You prefer stupid lying motherfucker?

Take your pick, asswipe.

Stalinist pig? Nazi storm trooper? What would you like to be called?

Worthless piece of shit? That's pretty close to the mark, how about that?

 

[Seymour Flops]

He did not declassify these documents. Just because he says it does not make it so. Clinton made sure that all the information she had was destroyed not in plain sighjt in a hotel room.

No, it was on an email server less secure than gmail, which I wouldn't have thought possible.

 

[j-mac]

The bottom line is how many Americans would trust the FBI if they showed up at your door today? Not many….Congrats libs.

 

[Foolardi]

This is some HOW proof of Hunter .......... Whatever,

And now ... the rest of the story ...
Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk and a Woo-woo-woo.
Dig Daddio

 

[Foolardi]

The bottom line is how many Americans would trust the FBI if they showed up at your door today? Not many….Congrats libs.

Again ... far cry from the movie - The FBI Story - { 1959 }
Featuring the everyman conservative James Stewart.
We are now fully engaged in a sort of - The Untouchables - { 1959 }
United States.
TV series that mimics real life G-man Eliot Ness played by
Robert Stack and showcasing flagrant Chicago-style bootlegger
crime in the 30's.
Even better is the TV series starring Steve Buscemi in :
- Boardwalk Empire - { 2010-2014 }

 

[berg80]

Does It Matter What (If Anything) Trump Declassified?​

Does Classification Even Matter?

All that said, there is an even more fundamental reason why Trump’s claims of declassification are likely to fall short as a legal defense. While there are criminal statutes that hinge on classification, they aren’t among the criminal offenses that the FBI included on the search warrant. To the contrary, all three of the criminal provisions that the FBI did list can be—and two routinely are—applied to misconduct that has absolutely nothing to do with classified information, making it unclear whether Trump’s claims of declassification would make any difference even if true.

The first provision listed, 18 U.S.C. § 1519, is an obstruction of justice provision that makes it a crime to knowingly alter, conceal, destroy, or falsify “any record, document, or tangible object[,]” so long as it’s done with the intent to impede or influence a federal investigation or other process. It’s unclear whether the Justice Department included § 1519 on the search warrant because it believes records held at Mar-a-Lago have been concealed or manipulated in violation of § 1519, or because members of Trump’s team may have generated false records as part of the extended negotiations over the retrieval of those records (such as the inventory that one or more of Trump’s lawyers reportedly signed in June 2022 asserting, incorrectly, that all classified documents had been turned over). Either way, whether the records held at Mar-a-Lago are classified or not is irrelevant, as the Justice Department routinely brings successful § 1519 charges in relation to records that are entirely unclassified, such as police reports and records of maritime waste disposal.

The second provision, 18 U.S.C. § 2071, similarly applies to any effort to willfully and unlawfully conceal, mutilate, or destroy “any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing” that is “filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States[.]” This language has been understood to cover efforts to conceal or destroy just about any sort of public record for well over a century. Consistent with this view, the Justice Department has described § 2071 as “a broad prohibition” covering “acts [that] involve either misappropriation of or damage to public records” without regard to whether they are classified and has successfully brought charges in relation to unclassified records ranging from Selective Service records to military flight logs.

Only the third criminal provision identified in the warrant, 18 U.S.C. § 793, is frequently associated with classified information.

Does It Matter What (If Anything) Trump Declassified?

No, not really.

www.lawfareblog.com

One of the hallmarks of Trumpery is to make relatively simple matters appear complicated. So let's simplify it. Even if there is ambiguity around the classification status of some of the documents (in reality there isn't) Trump still violated multiple statutes.

Next.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

trump stole top secret documents.
FACT

You really believe the bullshit, don't you?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Does It Matter What (If Anything) Trump Declassified?​

Does Classification Even Matter?

All that said, there is an even more fundamental reason why Trump’s claims of declassification are likely to fall short as a legal defense. While there are criminal statutes that hinge on classification, they aren’t among the criminal offenses that the FBI included on the search warrant. To the contrary, all three of the criminal provisions that the FBI did list can be—and two routinely are—applied to misconduct that has absolutely nothing to do with classified information, making it unclear whether Trump’s claims of declassification would make any difference even if true.

The first provision listed, 18 U.S.C. § 1519, is an obstruction of justice provision that makes it a crime to knowingly alter, conceal, destroy, or falsify “any record, document, or tangible object[,]” so long as it’s done with the intent to impede or influence a federal investigation or other process. It’s unclear whether the Justice Department included § 1519 on the search warrant because it believes records held at Mar-a-Lago have been concealed or manipulated in violation of § 1519, or because members of Trump’s team may have generated false records as part of the extended negotiations over the retrieval of those records (such as the inventory that one or more of Trump’s lawyers reportedly signed in June 2022 asserting, incorrectly, that all classified documents had been turned over). Either way, whether the records held at Mar-a-Lago are classified or not is irrelevant, as the Justice Department routinely brings successful § 1519 charges in relation to records that are entirely unclassified, such as police reports and records of maritime waste disposal.

The second provision, 18 U.S.C. § 2071, similarly applies to any effort to willfully and unlawfully conceal, mutilate, or destroy “any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing” that is “filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States[.]” This language has been understood to cover efforts to conceal or destroy just about any sort of public record for well over a century. Consistent with this view, the Justice Department has described § 2071 as “a broad prohibition” covering “acts [that] involve either misappropriation of or damage to public records” without regard to whether they are classified and has successfully brought charges in relation to unclassified records ranging from Selective Service records to military flight logs.

Only the third criminal provision identified in the warrant, 18 U.S.C. § 793, is frequently associated with classified information.

Does It Matter What (If Anything) Trump Declassified?

No, not really.

www.lawfareblog.com

One of the hallmarks of Trumpery is to make relatively simple matters appear complicated. So let's simplify it. Even if there is ambiguity around the classification status of some of the documents (in reality there isn't) Trump still violated multiple statutes.

Next.

Each and every one of those you listed is a stretch well beyond any reasonable interpretation.

If these motherfucking cocksuckers had anything on Trump, he would've already been charged.

The real question you need to ask yourself is, why are these assholes going after a former president? Why is he such a threat to them?

You know the answer.

Next.

 

[scruffy]

the hallmarks of Trumpery

lmao

 

[The Original Tree]

trump stole top secret documents.
FACT

A president cannot steal top secret documents. He has a top secret security clearance and presidents like Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Joe Biden can take any of their personal documents, notes etc. from The White House, and keep them for personal use in their personal collections, or slate them for designation in a personal library.

Obama still has classified documents he has not turned over to The National Archives, and Obama has destroyed thousands of classified documents from his personal collection. No one stopped him. No one raided his home.

Additionally, a US President has up to 6 years to fully classify the documents and make an accounting of them, and turn over what they do want, or what is deemed inappropriate for the public eye to The National Archives.

This is just flat out harassment for political purposes. It's for nothing but propaganda 90 days before The MidTerms.

You could care less about Democracy, Laws, and Procedures put in place to protect The Office of POTUS, and protect Former Presidents from Political Harassment.

You are part of the problem. You and people like you come to places like this and knowingly and callously spew lies with no regard for how it impacts America in The World Vies.

Win at all costs is not a winning strategy if you have to destroy the fabric of a nation to maintain your power and hold over a once free people.

At some point there is going to be a back lash for such oppression and abuse of power when you weaponize The Government against your political rivals purely for sport, for illegitimate advantage.

If these so called "documents" that The SS Gestapo FBI were so sensitive and "SO SECRET" then why leak their existence to "THE PRESS"?

The answer is clear. The FBI was ordered by Biden to raid Maro Lago; Rifle through Melania's, and Baron's Bedrooms, raid the entire residence, not to look for documents already sealed in boxes under lock and key ready to be delivered to NARA. No, it was a Panty RAID to look for political dirt that can be leaked to The MEDIA.

This is Joe Biden's Watergate.

 

[Winco]

If these motherfucking cocksuckers had anything on Trump, he would've already been charged.

4 years he was a sitting President.
Understand you can't charge a sitting President.

Impeached TWICE, but our weak-ass Senate bailed him out.

Now, No Senate Protection, and the FBI, DOJ, etc are carefully doing their DD, and if they have the Balls, they have enough to indict that mother fucker POS.

 

[surada]

trump stole top secret documents.
FACT

Seymour Flops

Hillary wasn't president and ..

Trump made mishandling documents a felony after he took office.

 

[surada]

A president cannot steal top secret documents. He has a top secret security clearance and presidents like Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Joe Biden can take any of their personal documents, notes etc. from The White House, and keep them for personal use in their personal collections, or slate them for designation in a personal library.

Obama still has classified documents he has not turned over to The National Archives, and Obama has destroyed thousands of classified documents from his personal collection. No one stopped him. No one raided his home.

Additionally, a US President has up to 6 years to fully classify the documents and make an accounting of them, and turn over what they do want, or what is deemed inappropriate for the public eye to The National Archives.

This is just flat out harassment for political purposes. It's for nothing but propaganda 90 days before The MidTerms.

You could care less about Democracy, Laws, and Procedures put in place to protect The Office of POTUS, and protect Former Presidents from Political Harassment.

You are part of the problem. You and people like you come to places like this and knowingly and callously spew lies with no regard for how it impacts America in The World Vies.

Win at all costs is not a winning strategy if you have to destroy the fabric of a nation to maintain your power and hold over a once free people.

At some point there is going to be a back lash for such oppression and abuse of power when you weaponize The Government against your political rivals purely for sport, for illegitimate advantage.

If these so called "documents" that The SS Gestapo FBI were so sensitive and "SO SECRET" then why leak their existence to "THE PRESS"?

The answer is clear. The FBI was ordered by Biden to raid Maro Lago; Rifle through Melania's, and Baron's Bedrooms, raid the entire residence, not to look for documents already sealed in boxes under lock and key ready to be delivered to NARA. No, it was a Panty RAID to look for political dirt that can be leaked to The MEDIA.

This is Joe Biden's Watergate.

Trump never had any security clearance. .. and he has no executive privilege once he leaves office.

 

[miketx]

trump stole top secret documents.
FACT

Media lies are not facts.

 

[miketx]

4 years he was a sitting President.
Understand you can't charge a sitting President.

Impeached TWICE, but our weak-ass Senate bailed him out.

Now, No Senate Protection, and the FBI, DOJ, etc are carefully doing their DD, and if they have the Balls, they have enough to indict that mother fucker POS.

You must be terrified of November.