Zone1 Henry David Thoreau did not believe in organized religion, but that God was all around and in us.

[Carl in Michigan]

These "Universe Sandbox" videos pop up on my YouTube. Each one shows the careful planning involved in the creation of our world, and the entire solar system and galaxy. Clearly this univers was the work of the divine being

 

[BreezeWood]

These "Universe Sandbox" videos pop up on my YouTube. Each one shows the careful planning involved in the creation of our world, and the entire solar system and galaxy. Clearly this univers was the work of the divine being

simply put - the sun in the future is going to extinguish itself and earth with it ... not sure how that is a plan from a civilized heaven.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I don't question anybody's faith though I know those who don't believe in God are wrong about that.

Einstein wasn't a believer of a "God in us" but he was a believer in some sort of cosmic intelligence ordering and driving the entire universe. Just figuring the odds, he didn't think everything that is could just be via chance or even natural selection.

Then there are the believers in strict religious rules and dogma. Others who put far less importance on that than they do with a personal relationship with the living Christ.

But however one looks for God, I leave it up to God on how and when and by what means they will ultimately know Him. I am confident all who want that will get there especially if they don't expect to make the rules about when and how that will happen.

"God" Is Just a Metaphor for All the Inanimate Forces

There is no logical need to personify It, as we do if we take "Nature Abhors a Vacuum" literally. What you're preaching, if consistenly followed, would make gravity one of the gods.

No need for a Creator, either, if these forces were always there and there was no beginning. The Postmodern Physics of the "Big Bang" imitates theological irrationality.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I also think it important that Christians be wise, gentle, and loving about that. I shudder to think how many have been turned away from the Christ/God by the unattractive, unpleasant, judgmental way He was introduced to them.

Theists' arrogance cannot be separated from believing in a Supreme Being, so your suggestion is impossible for them to follow

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I’m more in the personal God camp. I don’t believe the painter is the painting.

Rulers Set Up an Obedience to Totalitarianism

You're dishonestly comparing nature to something that we all know was created. If you believe God had no beginning, why can't everything else have no beginning but could change into various forms because of other objects and forces?

 

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Rulers Set Up an Obedience to Totalitarianism

You're dishonestly comparing nature to something that we all know was created. If you believe God had no beginning, why can't everything else have no beginning but could change into various forms because of other objects and forces?

It can change form and has but after the universe was created.

 

[MarathonMike]

I’m more in the personal God camp. I don’t believe the painter is the painting.

I don't believe the painter is the painting either.

 

[Hafar1014]

Rulers Set Up an Obedience to Totalitarianism

You're dishonestly comparing nature to something that we all know was created. If you believe God had no beginning, why can't everything else have no beginning but could change into various forms because of other objects and forces?

Who or what is the creators of creators.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Who or what is the creators of creators.

"Wow!" Is What Creates Imaginary Gods

 

[Hafar1014]

"Wow!" Is What Creates Imaginary Gods

Its a paradox that cant be answered but the belief there is no god is also imagined

 

[Cougarbear]

So why did He send angels (one was the Son of Man) to VERIFY that the REPORT of Sodom's sins justified TOTAL ANNIHILATION of the city?

There are many such examples. No, God is not omnipresent, but more like He senses a disturbance in the force.

God DELEGATES responsibilities.
And yes, His People should meet together whenever possible. This is THE DEFINITION of the Church -- a HOLY CONVOCATION

We are in the times of the restitution of all things including the spiritual and literal gathering of Israel in the last days. When we "gather" together in a church service or class of some kind, we are literally gathering Israel.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Its a paradox that cant be answered but the belief there is no god is also imagined

You could say the same thing about Santa Claus

 

[Hafar1014]

You could say the same thing about Santa Claus

You can say anything you want Atheism is also a belief no better ow worse than any other

 

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You can say anything you want Atheism is also a belief no better ow worse than any other

I disagree. If one’s atheism leads them to believing life has no purpose or meaning other than satisfying material needs and primitive impulses then it most certainly is worse. We were made for more.

 

[ding]

Who or what is the creators of creators.

The logical conclusion is that God is eternal with no beginning or ending.

 

[braalian]

Where His Brains Should Have Been, There Was Only Ivy

Primitive, mindless, and decadent Nature-worshipper. A graduate of HeirHead Harvard.

He’s been studied by schoolchildren for generations and is considered one of the greatest American writers, ever

Perhaps you’d care to stack your own achievements up against his?

 

[Hafar1014]

I disagree. If one’s atheism leads them to believing life has no purpose or meaning other than satisfying material needs and primitive impulses then it most certainly is worse. We were made for more.

In that case you are correct but we cant make that a general statement. Im certain an atheist can have a meaningful life. Its a process in psychology not religion. Religion can be a barrier in that it dictates meaning when meaning must be chosen by the individual based on their life experience.
I would also argue that this inherent need for meaning is the result of design

 

[Hafar1014]

He’s been studied by schoolchildren for generations and is considered one of the greatest American writers, ever

Perhaps you’d care to stack your own achievements up against his?

That would make him an animist like American Indians. His philosophy of life is much like Alfred Adlers model of human development. There is nothing not to agree with

 

[braalian]

Thoreau did not “worship” nature in a religious sense similar to how the Abrahamic religions worship God.

Come on, people…..

 

[Hafar1014]

Thoreau did not “worship” nature in a religious sense similar to how the Abrahamic religions worship God.

Come on, people…..

No he was more like an animist or Hindu. The Jews saw God as abstract not everywhere in the same sense.