Hegseth vote to take place tonight at 9 pm Eastern

[SeaMajor7]

I was also in the US Army, which in and of itself, wouldn't make me qualified to be the head of our DOD or a good statesman, serving the American people in the capacity of a governor or legislator. Your reasoning is flawed and fallacious. It's completely based on warm and fuzzy feelings.

Yeah, sure. And I'm an astronaut.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah, sure. And I'm an astronaut.

I was Miss America.

 

[BlackSand]

We have 700+ military installations around the world, extending our hegemonic power throughout the Earth, and we want to pretend that China and Russia are the "aggressors"?

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We aren't pretending they are the aggressors ... Nor are we failing to take aggressive positions when we feel it is in our interests.
I think you said it best when you mentioned you did not like or approve of saber-rattling.

Well guess what ... I don't give a fuck whether or not you do ... And neither do the Russians or the Chinese ...
See ... That's how aggression works.

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[TruthNotBS]

Yeah, sure. And I'm an astronaut.

I guess you're an astronaut lol.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I was Miss America.

If me being a veteran, makes you a former Miss America, then that's what you are.

 

[TruthNotBS]

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We aren't pretending they are the aggressors ... Nor are we failing to take aggressive positions when we feel it is in our interests.
I think you said it best when you mentioned you did not like or approve of saber-rattling.

Well guess what ... I don't give a fuck whether or not you do ... And neither do the Russians or the Chinese ...
See ... That's how aggression works.

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That's not in our interest as a nation. You'll just unnecessarily start a war.

 

[ColonelAngus]

What was the point of you posting his US Army portrait? Was that supposed to prove something, concerning what we're discussing about his qualification? Why even post that?

Happy now?

I literally just googled his name and saw that other photo first.

I just did it again and saw this one.

Pete is confirmed. I hope he does well.

 

[BlackSand]

That's not in our interest as a nation. You'll just unnecessarily start a war.

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Then it's a good thing we got rid of the Administration and Congress that was sending hundreds of billions of dollars
to support Ukraine's war efforts ...

But ... That was when Lloyd Austin was Secretary of Defense, Joe Biden was President, and under the previous Congress.
We're talking about Pete Hegseth and President Trump ... You ignorant twat.

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[j-mac]

Being sworn in right now.....YAY!

 

[TruthNotBS]

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Then it's a good thing we got rid of the Administration and Congress that was sending hundreds of billions of dollars
to support Ukraine's war efforts ...

But ... That was when Lloyd Austin was Secretary of Defense, Joe Biden was President, and under the previous Congress.
We're talking about Pete Hegseth and President Trump ... You ignorant twat.

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There's more to avoiding a major unnecessary war with Russia and China than Ukraine.

 

[BlackSand]

There's more to avoiding a major unnecessary war with Russia and China than Ukraine.

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There's more handwringer you can do as well ... But so what ...
I am just not interested in entertaining the idea of bending over to secure peace.

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[TruthNotBS]

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There's more handwringer you can do as well ... But so what ...
I am just not interested in entertaining the idea of bending over to secure peace.

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Your definition of not cowering or being a doormat for other nations is erroneously conflated with not instigating an unnecessary conflict with those other nations. Treating others as you would like to be treated and not being unnecessarily aggressive, poking the dragon and the bear, is the equivalent of "bending over"? No, it's not.

 

[Darkwind]

It sounds like you're full of hate actually

I am not, but the left is just seething with it.

 

[BlackSand]

Your definition of not cowering or being a doormat for other nations is erroneously conflated with not instigating an unnecessary conflict with those other nations. Treating others as you would like to be treated and not being unnecessarily aggressive, poking the dragon and the bear, is the equivalent of "bending over"? No, it's not.

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Yeah ... Blah-blah-blah ... I never said go pick a fight with a bear or dragon.

I said that pretending you can negotiate your way out being eaten by a bear or dragon through diplomacy alone ...
Isn't going to work you fucking retard ... And you better bring something other than words to back up your intentions ...

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[SweetTea]

I'm a socialist

And a Democrat. Go figure.

 

[SweetTea]

Finally our DOD will be back to common sense.

 

[TruthNotBS]

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Yeah ... Blah-blah-blah ... I never said go pick a fight with a bear or dragon.

I said that pretending you can negotiate your way out being eaten by a bear or dragon through diplomacy alone ...
Isn't going to work you fucking retard ... And you better bring something other than words to back up your intentions ...

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Eaten by China and Russia? How? Are they deploying their military on our doorstep? No, we're doing that to them. Peace through strength doesn't equate to us being bullies.

Like in all friendly or at least functional, mutually beneficial human relationships, including at the personal level between individuals, there has to exist a certain degree of mutual respect and concern for the other person's needs and boundaries. I never suggested that we become a doormat or that we are limited to diplomacy when facing a serious threat from another country. What I'm saying is that we shouldn't be the ones initiating unnecessary conflicts. Don't do unto others, what you don't want done to you.

 

[BlackSand]

Eaten by China and Russia? How? Are they deploying their military on our doorstep? No, we're doing that to them. Peace through strength doesn't equate to us being bullies.

Like in all friendly or at least functional, mutually beneficial human relationships, including at the personal level between individuals, there has to exist a certain degree of mutual respect and concern for the other person's needs and boundaries. I never suggested that we become a doormat or that we are limited to diplomacy when facing a serious threat from another country. What I'm saying is that we shouldn't be the ones initiating unnecessary conflicts. Don't do unto others, what you don't want done to you.

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I didn't say eaten by China or Russia ... I said eaten by bears or dragons ...
And it was you who was carrying on about fucking with bears or dragons.

That's the comparison you made you ignorant twat ... Make up your fucking mind retard ...

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[kyzr]

That's because he didn't earn it.

After he fires a few the others will understand what respect means, armchair generals are a dime a dozen, there are no more participation trophies or tokens at the Pentagon. You are at the top of your game or you are gone.

 

[TruthNotBS]

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I didn't say eaten by China or Russia ... I said eaten by bears or dragons ...
And it was you who was carrying on about fucking with bears or dragons.

That's the comparison you made you ignorant twat ... Make up your fucking mind retard ...

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The dragon symbolizes China and the bear Russia. You didn't know that? Well, it doesn't matter. I'm done with your abusive behavior. Grow up.