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Quote the verse. You’re misunderstanding.
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Hearing God
- Thread starter Weatherman2020
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You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.It's called an auditory hallucination, a common symptom of schizophrenia and psychosis.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
I did. Luke 16:16.Quote the verse. You’re misunderstanding.It absolutely is what the New Testament teaches.No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.It's called an auditory hallucination, a common symptom of schizophrenia and psychosis.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
- Thread starter
- #24
Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.It's called an auditory hallucination, a common symptom of schizophrenia and psychosis.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
- Moderator
- #25
It absolutely is what the New Testament teaches.No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.It's called an auditory hallucination, a common symptom of schizophrenia and psychosis.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
Jesus taught us how to discern between true and false prophets in Matthew 7. Something unnecessary if prophecy ceased.
The Book of Acts tells of several prophets among the Church.
Paul taught us that the Foundation of the Church are Apostles and prophets with christ as the chief cornerstone (eph 2:20)
He also that the Lord gives us Apostles, prophets, and other officers of the Church until we are brought into a unity of faith (Ephesians 4). We are not yet united in faith.
In 1 cor, Paul taught us to seek the gift of prophecy as one of the best gifts.
Peter taught us to seek the “sure word of prophecy” for ourselves.
John the Revelator received an entire book of scripture called Revelation by the Spirit of prophecy. In it he predicted a future time when two prophets would come and defend Jerusalem (rev 11).
Most importantly he taught us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy. No one can know that Jesus is who He claims to be without the Spirit of prophecy.
No my friend. Prophecy continues and has not ceased. The New Testament teaches is clearly. And the Holy Spirit testifies that it is alive in His Church. I know this for myself.
The gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy, and miracles still occur. Seek them out.
Mormon 9
Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
- Moderator
- #27
Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
Pentecost occurred after John the Baptist was killed. Just by your own logic prophecy did not cease with John the Baptist.
The foundation of the church is lain. And I don't read Mormon.It absolutely is what the New Testament teaches.No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.It's called an auditory hallucination, a common symptom of schizophrenia and psychosis.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
Jesus taught us how to discern between true and false prophets in Matthew 7. Something unnecessary if prophecy ceased.
The Book of Acts tells of several prophets among the Church.
Paul taught us that the Foundation of the Church are Apostles and prophets with christ as the chief cornerstone (eph 2:20)
He also that the Lord gives us Apostles, prophets, and other officers of the Church until we are brought into a unity of faith (Ephesians 4). We are not yet united in faith.
In 1 cor, Paul taught us to seek the gift of prophecy as one of the best gifts.
Peter taught us to seek the “sure word of prophecy” for ourselves.
John the Revelator received an entire book of scripture called Revelation by the Spirit of prophecy. In it he predicted a future time when two prophets would come and defend Jerusalem (rev 11).
Most importantly he taught us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy. No one can know that Jesus is who He claims to be without the Spirit of prophecy.
No my friend. Prophecy continues and has not ceased. The New Testament teaches is clearly. And the Holy Spirit testifies that it is alive in His Church. I know this for myself.
The gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy, and miracles still occur. Seek them out.
Mormon 9
- Thread starter
- #29
Well, explain the 3 examples of OP then.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
- Moderator
- #30
John the Baptist was the last of the prophets in the dispensation of the prophetic era of Israel. Because when Christ came, the dispensation of Grace again.
That does not mean prophecy has ceased. We see it Evidenced throughout the New Testament. The apostles exhorted us to seek out prophecy.
That does not mean prophecy has ceased. We see it Evidenced throughout the New Testament. The apostles exhorted us to seek out prophecy.
I didn't say prophecy. I said the prophetic age ended.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
Pentecost occurred after John the Baptist was killed. Just by your own logic prophecy did not cease with John the Baptist.
Prophecy took on new meaning after the Holy Spirit, as Paul expounds on. It's a gift of the Spirit. It edifies the church as the church endures the tribulation.
Muhammed already did.Well, explain the 3 examples of OP then.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17That is not what the New Testament teaches
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
- Thread starter
- #33
Neither of those involve prediction of the future.Muhammed already did.Well, explain the 3 examples of OP then.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
doesanyoneknowmyname
Active Member
A lot of jokes are made by unbelievers about it. The rest of us have either experienced it or believe it’s possible.
This pilot for an airline says he heard God while preparing to fly out of Indonesia. It was a get out now message. So he requested and was granted permission to take off a few minutes ahead of schedule with his passengers. Minutes later a tidal wave wiped out the airport. The control tower official he had just talked to was dead.
A Miracle in Indonesia. | 海外華人福音網
A friend of mine had a dream he was going to die and it was going to involve a lot of people. It was so real he maxed out his life insurance. A few months later he became one of the citizen soldiers on Flight 93.
Another friend was a fireman. Him and two others went into a burning strip mall to make sure everyone was out. As they walked thru the burning building he heard a loud voice STOP! He froze and the two at his side saw his reaction and so they too stopped. Seconds later a 2 ton air conditioning unit crashed thru the roof landing where they would have been.
Mine was more humorous. I’ll share it some time, but God does have a great sense of humor.
For those that want to laugh and say “but science!”, I would like for you to describe for us the at least 26 dimensions we know exist.
There’s a lot we don’t know.
and......where is the GOD evidence?
if you are suggesting that unexplainable things happen to people I wouldn't argue.
but hearing a disembodied voice doesn't prove god exists.
it may be evidence that there are alternate universes and that when people die they move on to some other place/plane and continue to exist on that plane...
but that could all just be the SCIENCE of the UNIVERSE! that we have yet to figure out....
but I see no evidence of "god".....
And so you claim that a gut feeling or intuition - really just a passing fancy - is "hearing God."Neither of those involve prediction of the future.Muhammed already did.Well, explain the 3 examples of OP then.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
Suit yourself.
- Moderator
- #36
The foundation of the church is lain. And I don't read Mormon.It absolutely is what the New Testament teaches.No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.Neither of those involves predicting the future.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
Jesus taught us how to discern between true and false prophets in Matthew 7. Something unnecessary if prophecy ceased.
The Book of Acts tells of several prophets among the Church.
Paul taught us that the Foundation of the Church are Apostles and prophets with christ as the chief cornerstone (eph 2:20)
He also that the Lord gives us Apostles, prophets, and other officers of the Church until we are brought into a unity of faith (Ephesians 4). We are not yet united in faith.
In 1 cor, Paul taught us to seek the gift of prophecy as one of the best gifts.
Peter taught us to seek the “sure word of prophecy” for ourselves.
John the Revelator received an entire book of scripture called Revelation by the Spirit of prophecy. In it he predicted a future time when two prophets would come and defend Jerusalem (rev 11).
Most importantly he taught us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy. No one can know that Jesus is who He claims to be without the Spirit of prophecy.
No my friend. Prophecy continues and has not ceased. The New Testament teaches is clearly. And the Holy Spirit testifies that it is alive in His Church. I know this for myself.
The gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy, and miracles still occur. Seek them out.
Mormon 9
The Foundation of the Church was martyred and slain. The keys were lost. The scriptures suppressed. The Body is Christ was broken and killed.
But it also rose from the dead and was restored to its fullness.
I invite you to read the Book of Mormon. It’s one of the greatest witnesses that God speaks with men. Prophecy has not ceased. And all are invited to read and see for themselves.
The gift of prophecy and the other gifts of the Spirit are alive in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I don't read Mormon. I don't need it.The foundation of the church is lain. And I don't read Mormon.It absolutely is what the New Testament teaches.No one predicts the future; not even pilots and firefighters.
The prophetic age ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16).
That is not what the New Testament teaches
Jesus taught us how to discern between true and false prophets in Matthew 7. Something unnecessary if prophecy ceased.
The Book of Acts tells of several prophets among the Church.
Paul taught us that the Foundation of the Church are Apostles and prophets with christ as the chief cornerstone (eph 2:20)
He also that the Lord gives us Apostles, prophets, and other officers of the Church until we are brought into a unity of faith (Ephesians 4). We are not yet united in faith.
In 1 cor, Paul taught us to seek the gift of prophecy as one of the best gifts.
Peter taught us to seek the “sure word of prophecy” for ourselves.
John the Revelator received an entire book of scripture called Revelation by the Spirit of prophecy. In it he predicted a future time when two prophets would come and defend Jerusalem (rev 11).
Most importantly he taught us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy. No one can know that Jesus is who He claims to be without the Spirit of prophecy.
No my friend. Prophecy continues and has not ceased. The New Testament teaches is clearly. And the Holy Spirit testifies that it is alive in His Church. I know this for myself.
The gifts of the Spirit, including prophecy, and miracles still occur. Seek them out.
Mormon 9
The Foundation of the Church was martyred and slain. The keys were lost. The scriptures suppressed. The Body is Christ was broken and killed.
But it also rose from the dead and was restored to its fullness.
I invite you to read the Book of Mormon. It’s one of the greatest witnesses that God speaks with men. Prophecy has not ceased. And all are invited to read and see for themselves.
The gift of prophecy and the other gifts of the Spirit are alive in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
By itself, the New Testament brings closure to the story.
- Moderator
- #38
I didn't say prophecy. I said the prophetic age ended.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.You realize that this is what Joel prophesied would happen in the last days, right?Acts 2:17
In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Peter is citing Joel because Joel's prophecy was unfolding then.
Pentecost occurred after John the Baptist was killed. Just by your own logic prophecy did not cease with John the Baptist.
Prophecy took on new meaning after the Holy Spirit, as Paul expounds on. It's a gift of the Spirit. It edifies the church as the church endures the tribulation.
And yet it still involves predicting the future. That’s not the sole role of it, in fact I think that aspect of it is a minor aspect. So why deny it?
- Thread starter
- #39
Sad you’ve not talked to God yet.And so you claim that a gut feeling or intuition - really just a passing fancy - is "hearing God."Neither of those involve prediction of the future.Muhammed already did.Well, explain the 3 examples of OP then.Exactly. That's what was happening at Pentecost.Says on the last days people will prophesy.
Suit yourself.
God is busy. I’ve never talked in tongues but I know someone who has. God is busy.
Wry Catcher
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #40
A lot of jokes are made by unbelievers about it. The rest of us have either experienced it or believe it’s possible.
This pilot for an airline says he heard God while preparing to fly out of Indonesia. It was a get out now message. So he requested and was granted permission to take off a few minutes ahead of schedule with his passengers. Minutes later a tidal wave wiped out the airport. The control tower official he had just talked to was dead.
A Miracle in Indonesia. | 海外華人福音網
A friend of mine had a dream he was going to die and it was going to involve a lot of people. It was so real he maxed out his life insurance. A few months later he became one of the citizen soldiers on Flight 93.
Another friend was a fireman. Him and two others went into a burning strip mall to make sure everyone was out. As they walked thru the burning building he heard a loud voice STOP! He froze and the two at his side saw his reaction and so they too stopped. Seconds later a 2 ton air conditioning unit crashed thru the roof landing where they would have been.
Mine was more humorous. I’ll share it some time, but God does have a great sense of humor.
For those that want to laugh and say “but science!”, I would like for you to describe for us the at least 26 dimensions we know exist.
There’s a lot we don’t know.
OMG, I recent an E-Mail from the Holy Ghost, here I will post it in full:
"Wry, Keep the faith, and remember to tell WM2020 s/he needs to be reminded to take his/her meds, and not expect a ticket to enter the pearly gate". Thus God's emissary told me to do this, and His will be done.
I asked the Ghost in a response to the e-mail if WM2020 was a male or female, and just now got a response, to wit: "who cares".
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