Hear exclusive audio of Trump discussing classified documents in 2021

[Kilroy2]

The audio tape?

audio tape

 

[Billiejeens]

audio tape

You understand that by definition an Audio Tape doesn't "show" anything, yes?

 

[Godboy]

Wrong.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf

Repetitive parroting of a lie does not magically make it come true, idiot.

It isnt anywhere in that link. You lied.

 

[Billiejeens]

You deserve Joe Bedpan. Biden illegally had records going back to the 70s, all
felonious taken, with ZERO authorization, held and stored illegally for DECADES.




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He wants Ice Cream

 

[Kilroy2]

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information​

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

To my knowledge Trump did not issue his own. EO so this would still stands.

Yes the president can declassify. The process is outlined in the EO that must be followed.

The key one is that the originator should be notified and if the originator disagrees then they can present their reason for it to remain classified to the president. The president can agree or disagree.

If still affirmed, then there is a process to declassify. If others and the originator have copies of the same document, how are they going to know that it has been declassified if the President just thinks it should be and not tells them.


Trump speaks with double tongued when he says he can declassify just by thinking it and then remove documents to his home.

He didn't follow the rules

He then brags about having sensitive documents.

No person is above the law.

 

[Kilroy2]

You understand that by definition an Audio Tape doesn't "show" anything, yes?

Your using it in a different way. "Show me the money"

The word show can be used in different ways and is not the primary reason why he is being charged with a crime.

His diaries show him to have been an extremely insecure person. If you knew the person then you might agree with that statement as being accurate.

What is said on the tape will have other collaborating evidence to make the case stronger.

Trump admits on the tape that they are classified documents and it can be used in court. Isn't that freedom of speech? Prosecutors love defendants who admit their crime. It makes it so much easier.

Since there are other people in the room then there is collaborating evidence that it was Trump who said it.

The classified documents retrieved from hi home is collaborating evidence.

NARA requesting that he turn over the documents is evidence.

Even the people who moved the boxes can testify that they were taken out of the Whitehouse on an order by Trump.

Trump denying that he had classified documents will be show that he is a liar.

This case does not rest on one piece of evidence.

 

[Billiejeens]

Your using it in a different way. "Show me the money"

The word show can be used in different ways and is not the primary reason why he is being charged with a crime.

His diaries show him to have been an extremely insecure person. If you knew the person then you might agree with that statement as being accurate.

What is said on the tape will have other collaborating evidence to make the case stronger.

Trump admits on the tape that they are classified documents and it can be used in court. Isn't that freedom of speech? Prosecutors love defendants who admit their crime. It makes it so much easier.

Since there are other people in the room then there is collaborating evidence that it was Trump who said it.

The classified documents retrieved from hi home is collaborating evidence.

NARA requesting that he turn over the documents is evidence.

Even the people who moved the boxes can testify that they were taken out of the Whitehouse on an order by Trump.

Trump denying that he had classified documents will be show that he is a liar.

This case does not rest on one piece of evidence.

It's actually zero

 

[j-mac]

Your using it in a different way. "Show me the money"

The word show can be used in different ways and is not the primary reason why he is being charged with a crime.

His diaries show him to have been an extremely insecure person. If you knew the person then you might agree with that statement as being accurate.

What is said on the tape will have other collaborating evidence to make the case stronger.

Trump admits on the tape that they are classified documents and it can be used in court. Isn't that freedom of speech? Prosecutors love defendants who admit their crime. It makes it so much easier.

Since there are other people in the room then there is collaborating evidence that it was Trump who said it.

The classified documents retrieved from hi home is collaborating evidence.

NARA requesting that he turn over the documents is evidence.

Even the people who moved the boxes can testify that they were taken out of the Whitehouse on an order by Trump.

Trump denying that he had classified documents will be show that he is a liar.

This case does not rest on one piece of evidence.

While I will say for the record, I don’t like being loose lipped with confidential information, and if proven that he was showing said information to a writer, then he should pay the price.

But, Smith has to prove it first. And, his track record is not strong in that dept.

 

[Kilroy2]

While I will say for the record, I don’t like being loose lipped with confidential information, and if proven that he was showing said information to a writer, then he should pay the price.

But, Smith has to prove it first. And, his track record is not strong in that dept.

Well it's obvious in the tape that he is talking to someone. If no one else is in the room then he is going crazy.

So it would be a safe bet that one or more people were in the room. They would testify that the tape is authentic and maybe add other things. That is raising it to a level of beyond a shadow of doubt.

Most courts will allow audio tapes if chain of custody can be proven. Audio tapes can also be submitted to forensic experts who can testify on what they find.

Obvious they have to raise it beyond a shadow of doubt or it could lead to a hung jury.

 

[Billiejeens]

Well it's obvious in the tape that he is talking to someone. If no one else is in the room then he is going crazy.

So it would be a safe bet that one or more people were in the room. They would testify that the tape is authentic and maybe add other things. That is raising it to a level of beyond a shadow of doubt.

Most courts will allow audio tapes if chain of custody can be proven. Audio tapes can also be submitted to forensic experts who can testify on what they find.

Obvious they have to raise it beyond a shadow of doubt or it could lead to a hung jury.

At this point how do we know what he is actually talking about?
Physically.

 

[Kilroy2]

At this point how do we know what he is actually talking about?
Physically.

yes there will be some who will refuse to accept that.

Trump house was raided. Documents were retrieved. Documents retrieve now have a chain of custody that certifies for submission to the court of where they got these documents and where they are stored at currently.

Classification marking on documents are clear.


Now if you want to believe that Trump is innocent then that is what you believe. This is what Trump faces in a court of law.

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But it won't matter to the person who believes that Trump is innocent.

Search warrant copy

Read the Search Warrant for Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Home (Published 2022)

A federal judge on Friday unsealed the search warrant for former President Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Fla., as well as a list of items removed from the property when federal agents executed the warrant this week.

www.nytimes.com

Trump home being raided.

Bottom line. You were there so you can believe whatever that floats. This is Trump's reality.

 

[Billiejeens]

Your using it in a different way. "Show me the money"

The word show can be used in different ways and is not the primary reason why he is being charged with a crime.

His diaries show him to have been an extremely insecure person. If you knew the person then you might agree with that statement as being accurate.

What is said on the tape will have other collaborating evidence to make the case stronger.

Trump admits on the tape that they are classified documents and it can be used in court. Isn't that freedom of speech? Prosecutors love defendants who admit their crime. It makes it so much easier.

Since there are other people in the room then there is collaborating evidence that it was Trump who said it.

The classified documents retrieved from hi home is collaborating evidence.

NARA requesting that he turn over the documents is evidence.

Even the people who moved the boxes can testify that they were taken out of the Whitehouse on an order by Trump.

Trump denying that he had classified documents will be show that he is a liar.

This case does not rest on one piece of evidence.

But you don't have any idea what was being discussed on the tape now do you?

 

[Kilroy2]

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yes there will be some who will refuse to accept that.

Trump house was raided. Documents were retrieved. Documents retrieve now have a chain of custody that certifies for submission to the court of where they got these documents and where they are stored at currently.

Classification marking on documents are clear.


Now if you want to believe that Trump is innocent then that is what you believe. This is what Trump faces in a court of law.

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But it won't matter to the person who believes that Trump is innocent.

Search warrant copy

Read the Search Warrant for Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Home (Published 2022)

A federal judge on Friday unsealed the search warrant for former President Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Fla., as well as a list of items removed from the property when federal agents executed the warrant this week.

www.nytimes.com

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Trump home being raided.

But you don't have any idea what was being discussed on the tape now do you?

Did you read or listen to the audio?

 

[Billiejeens]

Did you read or listen to the audio?

One can't read audio.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

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yes there will be some who will refuse to accept that.

Trump house was raided. Documents were retrieved. Documents retrieve now have a chain of custody that certifies for submission to the court of where they got these documents and where they are stored at currently.

Classification marking on documents are clear.


Now if you want to believe that Trump is innocent then that is what you believe. This is what Trump faces in a court of law.

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But it won't matter to the person who believes that Trump is innocent.

Search warrant copy

Read the Search Warrant for Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Home (Published 2022)

A federal judge on Friday unsealed the search warrant for former President Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Fla., as well as a list of items removed from the property when federal agents executed the warrant this week.

www.nytimes.com

View attachment 831888

Trump home being raided.

Bottom line. You were there so you can believe whatever that floats. This is Trump's reality.

I see you forgot senator biden's trunk of his Corvette and garage
Which he had no authority to have

 

[Kilroy2]

I see you forgot senator biden's trunk of his Corvette and garage
Which he had no authority to have

Yes that was a mistake on his part. The difference is he notified the proper people that he had them. And they pick it up.

versus Trump who was repeatedly asked to turn over the document. he turned over a few boxes and then said that was all he had. He lied and kept the rest. He refused to turn over all the documents when asked.

There is a difference

The person who turns himself him in has a chance to get a lessor punishment that the person who had to be captured. .

The range of sentencing is given to judges so that they can impose punishment suitable for the circumstances of the offense.

 

[Kilroy2]

One can't read audio.

if the audio is transcribed then it can be read.

 

[Billiejeens]

if the audio is transcribed then it can be read.

Correct.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yes that was a mistake on his part. The difference is he notified the proper people that he had them. And they pick it up.

versus Trump who was repeatedly asked to turn over the document. he turned over a few boxes and then said that was all he had. He lied and kept the rest. He refused to turn over all the documents when asked.

There is a difference

The person who turns himself him in has a chance to get a lessor punishment that the person who had to be captured. .

The range of sentencing is given to judges so that they can impose punishment suitable for the circumstances of the offense.

A mistake? That wasn't a mistake he intentionally took documents that he knew he wasn't allowed to take.

 

[Billiejeens]

A mistake? That wasn't a mistake he intentionally took documents that he knew he wasn't allowed to take.

Harsh.