Has Trump ever taken responsibility?

[Mac1958]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

 

[jasonnfree]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

When he raised his right hand with his left hand on the Bible on January 20, 2017, he accepted responsibility, for better or for worse. So far he's done a great job.

Has Trump accepted responsibility for anything since then?

 

[progressive hunter]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

When he raised his right hand with his left hand on the Bible on January 20, 2017, he accepted responsibility, for better or for worse. So far he's done a great job.

Has Trump accepted responsibility for anything since then?

yeah pretty much everything including things that are not his responsibility,,,

 

[iceberg]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

Exactly. The rabid devotion to Obama and anyone critical was racist. Example 1.

He's simply a response to the crazy left crap. Now we get crazy right shit.

It's certainly... Crazy.

 

[Mac1958]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

I just find it odd how you are now siding with the very ultra-orthodox leftist hacks you have long opposed.

 

[easyt65]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

“I’ll be honest with you, if I have a regret during my presidency, it is that people were so focused on me and the battles we were having, particularly after we lost the House, that folks stopped paying attention up and down the ballot”
-- Obama Only Has One Regret And It’s Not What You Think

Barry constantly placed the focus on himself through his Un-Constitutional Actions. The most criminally non-compliant administration in US history regarding the FOIA & Records Act, Obama was in violation of the US Constitution - according to the USSC - no less that3 times, was found in Contempt of Court for violating Federal Judges' rulings numerous times, and his Cabinet / administration officials were found to have committed criminal acts for which they were admonished -- CIA Director Brennan was forced to admit to the crime of spying on Congress and apologize while US AG Holder was Censured for Obstruction / Perjury by a Bipartisan Congress, making him the 1st Cabinet Member / US AG to be Censured in US history.


'Speaking in front of a joint session of Congress on Tuesday, Obama said he regrets that the “rancor and suspicion” between Democrats and Republicans has gotten worse during his time in the White House, noting he’d try to use his remaining time in office to bring the two parties closer together.'
-- Obama Reveals 'One Of The Few Regrets' Of His Presidency

Seriously? The SOB was a HUGE part in the reason there was so much 'rancor' and 'suspicion' between the GOP and DNC.

'The Republicans can come along, but they have to sit in the back of the bus'.
- Sorry, Barry, that's not how the United States Government works, or didn't they teach you that in 'Community Organizer' school?!

'I won'.
- Doesn't mean you became 'dictator'...even though you acted like it.


‘Failing to plan’ for the aftermath of Muammar Gaddafi’s downfall is the US president’s biggest regret from his time in office'.
-- Barack Obama says Libya was 'worst mistake' of his presidency

What is truly remarkable to me here is that, regarding Libya, Obama stated 'probably' his 'biggest regret' was not planning for the aftermath of his actions ... the fact that he does not regret his decision to 'pimp out' the US military to Al Qaeda, the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans in one day, to help them murder the sovereign leader of Libya who was helping coalition forces target and fight terrorists in Northern Africa and allowing Libya to turn into an Al Qaeda safe haven is disturbing as hell and tells a lot about Barry.

The list of failures, violations, crimes, and treason for which he does not publicly claim to regret is far, far longer than the ones he claimed he does regret.

 

[progressive hunter]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

I just find it odd how you are now siding with the very ultra-orthodox leftist hacks you have long opposed.

stating a fact doesnt mean he switched sides,,,

trumps behavior invites the mentally ill to lose their collective minds,,,

 

[Mac1958]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

I just find it odd how you are now siding with the very ultra-orthodox leftist hacks you have long opposed.

I don't care for Trump. Do you think that means that I agree with the ultra-orthodox leftist hacks on everything? Really?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

I just find it odd how you are now siding with the very ultra-orthodox leftist hacks you have long opposed.

stating a fact doesnt mean he switched sides,,,

trumps behavior invites the mentally ill to lose their collective minds,,,

It's more a matter of taking sides than switching.

We are in the middle of the biggest crisis our nation has faced in decades, yet here people are only wanting to indulge in partisan finger pointing. Getting the other guy is more important to people than supporting their country or uniting to combat this threat.

We need less taking of sides and more reason, here.

 

[progressive hunter]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

I just find it odd how you are now siding with the very ultra-orthodox leftist hacks you have long opposed.

stating a fact doesnt mean he switched sides,,,

trumps behavior invites the mentally ill to lose their collective minds,,,

It's more a matter of taking sides than switching.

We are in the middle of the biggest crisis our nation has faced in decades, yet here people are only wanting to indulge in partisan finger pointing. Getting the other guy is more important to people than supporting their country or uniting to combat this threat.

We need less taking of sides and more reason, here.

he didnt take sides he stated a fact,,,

trumps behavior invites the mentally ill to rage against him,,,

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I don't care for Trump. Do you think that means that I agree with the ultra-orthodox leftist hacks on everything? Really?

I didn't say everything. I am not fond of much of his behavior, either, but I am willing to give him credit as well as assign blame, so I do not side with those who only assign blame.

Once again, the loyalty to him you decry is BECAUSE of the level of absolutely insane hatred directed at him by those you are NOT decrying in this thread.

 

[Indeependent]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

Name me a politician who ever claimed responsibility for anything that wasn't positive.
HINT: You can definitely omit Bill Clinton.

Read the OP.

It's kind of difficult for people to not admit an overt misdeed.
What did Trump do wrong?
Did he sell Iran weapons (Reagan), rape and murder someone (JFK) or allow a city to be burnt to the ground (Obama)?

Well, the problem is - your claims aren't exactly accurate.

So you don't think Trump has ever done anything wrong?

My claims are quote accurate and I was plenty old enough to experience the interviews of the 18 women who claimed Bill raped them and to see Obama overtly allow Ferguson to be burnt to the ground.
The problem with you is that over 99% of your posts contain warped versions of reality and everyone here knows that.

Oh, Ferguson! 12 buildings and two cars is not the "whole city" though.
And I'm still waiting to hear who Kennedy raped and murdered, please.

Which led to Hood Blacks punching out White people nation wide.
Obama said nothing.

 

[Indeependent]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

Name me a politician who ever claimed responsibility for anything that wasn't positive.
HINT: You can definitely omit Bill Clinton.

Read the OP.

It's kind of difficult for people to not admit an overt misdeed.
What did Trump do wrong?
Did he sell Iran weapons (Reagan), rape and murder someone (JFK) or allow a city to be burnt to the ground (Obama)?

Well, the problem is - your claims aren't exactly accurate.

So you don't think Trump has ever done anything wrong?

My claims are quote accurate and I was plenty old enough to experience the interviews of the 18 women who claimed Bill raped them and to see Obama overtly allow Ferguson to be burnt to the ground.
The problem with you is that over 99% of your posts contain warped versions of reality and everyone here knows that.

We will have to agree to disagree then. I don't want to derail this thread into those discussions.

How can anyone have a discussion with you when 99% of what you post isn’t fact.
Now answer my questions about those people I listed representing “maturity”.

 

[Norman]

He is broadcasting regarding the coronavirus situation every day. He is taking great responsibility.

Oh you mean what he answered to reporters's rage bait comment? He should have not answered at all. I hope he banned that reporter from white house forever. The events are for information, not for reporters to attempt to "get Trump" or act like 5 year old children, similar to the OP in style.

 

[Coyote]

Better yet let me hear about what you think were his big mistakes.

Feel free to start a thread on that. I'm interested in the concept of leaders taking responsibility.

This is where the divide is coyote. People here drone on about how bad orange man is, the apocalypse is just around the corner, he lies ten of thousands of times, we will never recover from the harm he has done. I am asking you who started a thread on trump not taking credit for what he did wrong, what has trump done wrong that is harmful to the American people?. People here promote a narrative that is not fact based following the old strategy of if you say it enough times people will believe it is true. Trump has not done a perfect job, no one can, but he has done a good job in the face of the most concerted effort to destabilize an American president in our history. What is trumps Iran contra, what is trumps aca, what is it trump has done that is so bad? Everything claimed about trump when he got elected has not come true. No ww3, no economic collapse, no societal upheaval, no downward spiral of our country. You all cannot believe he hasn’t crashed and burned so you just turn up the heat with artificial constructs trying to will a giant fail for our country. There are actually people on here hoping more people will die and trump will be blamed for it. I don’t include you in that bunch of sickos.

so in closing, you have claimed trump doesn’t take responsibility for his failures, yet you document none of them, mostly because they will be subjective conclusions, which can be debated by people like me. What you really want him to do is apologize for being the heartless, egomaniaca, course, politically incorrect cad that you and others claim he is. You all have been wrong for 4 years. When are you going to take responsibility and admit your mistakes?

None so blind...

So your take is he has had no fails? By your vague criteria no president has.

More f

Two distinct examples of things that Trump, as president, could have taken responsibility for:

Healthcare - the chaotic way he has dismantled it, without replacing it with anything, leaving people, providers, insurance confused and uncertain about where this is all going or whether they'll have insurance at all. Like the chaotic roll out of ACA (Obama's fault) this chaotic retreat has also been bad.

A botched Navy Seals raid in Yemen which left a Seal and several civilians (Trump blamed the Generals).

the country and its future,,,

now shut the fuck up before your TDS gets worse you baby killing twit,,,

your to stuipd to know healthcare isnt the job of the feds or POTUS,,,

dont think you realize it but in war things go wrong and people die,,,like all those seals that dies in that helicopter crash,,,and he did take responsibility,,


now go play with your dolls little girl,,,

You are too stupid, apparently to know that it should be "too" and "you're" in your barely coherent rant about how stupid other people are.

This clearly hit a sore point with Trumpists.

 

[Pogo]

They have sold their soul, 100%, to this guy. There is zero (0) space between them now. They're all one.

As the absolutely insane and hypocritical nature of the hatred against him amps ever upward, so does the defense of him. You cannot really consider one without considering the other.

I have long known you to be rather more independent than this, Mac. Your "they're all one" comment can just as easily be applied to those you are agreeing with, here.

I've never seen anything like this. Not the man, not the devotion. That's just me.

I have never seen anything like the insane level of hatred against him.

Cause and effect.

We see different things. He brings much of this on himself, and he always has, with his behaviors and his temperament.

I don't know how that isn't screamingly obvious.

It is. But none so blind as the willfully ignorant. And that's exactly why we call it "cult".

 

[Pogo]

Not credit for - he does that all the time, but RESPONSIBILITY for something?

Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan’s acceptance of responsibility in the Iran-Contra Affair in April 1987 when Trump was about to turn 40. Reagan took to the airwaves and revealed his role in the deal that used Nicaragua as the conduit for U.S. arms that were traded for Iranian-held hostages, something Reagan previously had denied. “There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses,” Reagan said. “It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.” As with Kennedy, the public who genuinely liked Reagan accepted his apology and a potential impeachment was averted. His popularity also returned, scoring him a 64% approval by the time he left office two years later.

John F Kennedy:
John Kennedy’s acceptance of his role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion in April 1961 when Donald was nearly 15. The CIA-run operation, begun under the Eisenhower Administration, resulted in the capture of over 1,200 insurgents and ultimately the strengthening of the nascent Castro regime. Kennedy blamed himself for approving the operation and in public held himself solely accountable. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan ... Further statements, detailed discussions, are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of the Government.” The public liked what they saw from the young president and gave him a pass. Later Kennedy joked that if he had known how his poll numbers would have soared – into the 80s – he might have called for the invasion to occur sooner.

Barak Obama:
President Obama, by his own admission, failed badly during the rollout of Obamacare in fall 2013, more grievously due to the failures of HealthCare.gov. But he took responsibility and fixed it, launching an unprecedented number of outside programmers and tech specialists to overhaul the site and get it in working order. "I take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed ASAP,” Obama said at the time. And so he did.

Here are a few other things Obama took responsibility for while in office:

• The failed Tom Daschle and Bill Richardson Cabinet nominations in 2009
• The BP oil spill in 2010
• Democrats’ loss of the House of Representatives in 2010
• The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012
• The VA scandal in 2014
• Democratic losses in the 2014 midterms
• The death of two hostages in an operation against al-Qaeda in 2015
• The Syrian government’s atrocities in Aleppo in 2016

Donald Trump:
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Can anyone provide some examples?

Name me a politician who ever claimed responsibility for anything that wasn't positive.
HINT: You can definitely omit Bill Clinton.

Read the OP.

It's kind of difficult for people to not admit an overt misdeed.
What did Trump do wrong?
Did he sell Iran weapons (Reagan), rape and murder someone (JFK) or allow a city to be burnt to the ground (Obama)?

Well, the problem is - your claims aren't exactly accurate.

So you don't think Trump has ever done anything wrong?

My claims are quote accurate and I was plenty old enough to experience the interviews of the 18 women who claimed Bill raped them and to see Obama overtly allow Ferguson to be burnt to the ground.
The problem with you is that over 99% of your posts contain warped versions of reality and everyone here knows that.

We will have to agree to disagree then. I don't want to derail this thread into those discussions.

How can anyone have a discussion with you when 99% of what you post isn’t fact.
Now answer my questions about those people I listed representing “maturity”.

Have you to date in fact posted ANYTHING AT ALL related to the OP question, or are you going to continue to supply Pogo's Law with the entire world supply of nickels?

"B- but but O'bama! B- But but Clinton! B- but but yammer yammer!"

 

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What I find telling is, my OP is getting a number of "dislikes" but none of them have come up with a single instance of Trump taking responsibility.

He didn’t do anything wrong. What would you have done in his shoes? Why doesn’t our media and their so called experts take responsibility?