EXTRAORDINARY: Israel Takes Responsibility. Who Else Does?All war is hell. Not all who wage it admit their mistakes.

[Sayaras]

by not doing it's bidding? ..

You make it sound as if US, even after Biden's bowing to ISLAMIST lobbies, is "not" against Hamas - Out of its own opinion.

 

[the watcher]

Today , here in the US, most who are still talking about that (9 June 1967) accident are Neo Nazi or DavidDuKKKe type - linked forces.

I think I get it. What we need to do here is establish this as another "accident", quell ant discussion of it, and after this anyone who speaks of it is a racist nazi and an enemy of the state. Is that about right? We will only remember approved history. That way of thinking sounds familiar.

 

[the watcher]

The US wants to attack Iran and Russia for its own cloudy reasons. I am saying it's convenient to have "hamas" run into any territory that we wish to bomb.

 

[the watcher]

We're not opposed to taking down airliners when we need to either, like the Vincennes shooting down an Iranian passenger plane. This is what happens when you load an area like the Persian Gulf or Gulf of Aden with autonomous weapons and fear and testosterone laden service people who don't want to be there in the first place. This 'they did it too' shit is pretty weak.We have to do better than this and make our allies better too. Right is right and wrong will always be wrong no matter how much you spin it.

 

[fncceo]

This attack was horrible This has hurt Israel more than it has helped them.

The bottom line here is ... Israel can never do anything to defend itself without being accused of genocide.

If the IDF went into Gaza with feathers instead of guns, they'd be accused of using "Tickle Torture" against the Geneva Convention.

Israel needs to go in, do what needs to get done, and get out.

They will be out of Gaza by end of the year ... Russia will be in The Ukraine for the next 50.

 

[Moonglow]

How much is enough?

 

[Matted Joybeard]

Nathan J Robinson writes for... TheGuardian.
No surprise here.

But Nathan didn't record the data?

The Aid Worker Security Database (AWSD) is a project of the international research group Humanitarian Outcomes. Funded by USAID, it records major incidents, from 1997 to present, of attacks on humanitarian workers worldwide.

 

[Failzero]

Not

Today , here in the US, most who are still talking about that (9 June 1967) accident are Neo Nazi or DavidDuKKKe type - linked forces.

Not on this forum board ( And at places like The DU ... they are pro Arab lefty Street Rabble

 

[Sayaras]

But Nathan didn't record the data?

What "data"? TheGuardian was ever unbiased on the ME?
Abd what is your point? That the IDF is just "afrer" aid? Are you telling ne that this is really your "belief"?

 

[Sayaras]

The bottom line here is ... Israel can never do anything to defend itself without being accused of genocide.

If the IDF went into Gaza with feathers instead of guns, they'd be accused of using "Tickle Torture" against the Geneva Convention.

Israel needs to go in, do what needs to get done, and get out.

They will be out of Gaza by end of the year ... Russia will be in The Ukraine for the next 50.

Yup.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

What "data"? TheGuardian was ever unbiased on the ME?
Abd what is your point? That the IDF is just "afrer" aid? Are you telling ne that this is really your "belief"?

I'm telling you to read the citation in the chart and not attribute the stats lazily to the paper reporting it but the organization collecting the data and funding them.

 

[Sayaras]

Soneone here managed to include Russia into this unrelated thread
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and an illogical blend of words with or without quotation marks.

Even included something about Nazi Germany...

LOL

Hilarious.

 

[surada]

I have to be objective and honest as much as I want Israel to finish Hamas, they must do just that and try to ONLY do that. Right?

This attack was horrible This has hurt Israel more than it has helped them. This is the reality, some buzzwords and cliche comments only exasperate the situation. This was even worse than the murder of their own citizens because one can understand the confusion, fear and tricks Hamas play. These volunteers posed no threat at all.

Yes, was is hell, but you don't systematically kill citizens in the hopes that one terrorist is there.

There were some powerful comments on youtube, many of them I won't repeat but which resonated. One person., who I presume was Jewish based on their other comments; said something that was compelling, he/she said to the effect, "Israel has become a less Jewish nation and more just a nation named Israel".

As a self described Noahide it hurts me to consider this as being true. What is done is done, but Israel leadership, the military and even Jews know how awful this looks. They need to reign this in. I've said that the pressure by the West for them to "ramp it up and finish the war" would and has lead to mistakes. These are however, avoidable mistakes. Also, grave.

The horrible irony is that this same World Central Kitchen was proving meals to Israel after the Oct 7th attacks. Comforting people there and those who couldn't go back to their homes.

The focus should be primarily on getting the hostages out by any means necessary. Chase the loose terrorist only if 100% certain and convenient.

Perpetual victim and noahide.

 

[surada]

Blue State Marxist Democrats call Israel a pariah , demand Divestment & Sanctions . Say Israel worse than Hamas ...Wow I’m amazed they waited this long

Israel has always been an albatross.. and we have zero influence over Israel.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Perpetual victim and noahide.

My guess is that you wouldn't have survived as long as I have if you had lived my life. Your sentiments reinforce this opinion.