Has the United States surrendered to anthropogenic climate change?
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EMH
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Why wouldn't we do that?
Employ Americans, produce our own energy at the most competitive price?
EMH
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His vision is very clear.
Earth is not warming. CO2 is not the cause of "climate change."
We are still waiting for you to produce one single "expert" who can refute one word of what EMH posts on this subject, and you STILL HAVE NOT FOUND ONE....
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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.
Denial is not refutation.
Where is the blowhard's data and analysis that contradicts the scientific consensus?
How does Trump's conceding the world's growing clean energy market to China serve the U.S.?
China Took Over the World’s Clean Energy Boom
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Chinese renewables and EVs are flooding emerging markets, with exports to Africa, ASEAN, and the Middle East soaring as costs for solar panels and EV batteries continue to fall.
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Please list all the world's scientific authorities and signatory nations to the Paris Climate Accord who have abandoned the recognition of anthropogenic climate change based upon the revisionist data of the residue of hardcore denialists.
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So, in other words, you believe it because you're told that's how it is, and you don't bother to look around and see if what they're saying is actually true. What you also don't have, and those "scientists" don't have either are real world examples of how climate change is affecting the world. If y'all did, you'd be hammering that instead of computer models and predictions that don't happen. They can't answer what's the ideal global temperature we should have. They can't answer how spending all this supposed money is going to actually fix the problem. Plenty of those scientists don't even live their own lives like they believe it.
Also, as others have said, science isn't done by consensus. Politics is done that way. Science is either actual proof or it's a theory. Point to experiments done in a lab that shows the impart of climate change on the planet. It's funny that some of the same people who "respect the science" believe that there are more than two genders. I thought that biology and genetics were settled science, but in this case, feelings take precedent. Almost like their ideology is more important than science.
schmidlap
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Please list every scientific discipline in which a scientific consensus based upon empirical data analysis has been achieved about which you are in denial.So, in other words, you believe it because you're told that's how it is, and you don't bother to look around and see if what they're saying is actually true. What you also don't have, and those "scientists" don't have either are real world examples of how climate change is affecting the world. If y'all did, you'd be hammering that instead of computer models and predictions that don't happen. They can't answer what's the ideal global temperature we should have. They can't answer how spending all this supposed money is going to actually fix the problem. Plenty of those scientists don't even live their own lives like they believe it.
Also, as others have said, science isn't done by consensus. Politics is done that way. Science is either actual proof or it's a theory. Point to experiments done in a lab that shows the impart of climate change on the planet. It's funny that some of the same people who "respect the science" believe that there are more than two genders. I thought that biology and genetics were settled science, but in this case, feelings take precedent. Almost like their ideology is more important than science.
All can be challenged, of course, but in each and every instance, a preponderance of countervailing data is required to revise the consensus.
Ideology-driven conspiracy fantasies about "stupid" and/or "evil" scientists are no substitute.
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Then WHERE IS THAT EVIDENCE???
You have been asked over and over to find one of these "experts" to refute what EMH has posted here. We are still waiting for that to happen.
Highly correlated satellite and balloon data = NO WARMING in ATMOSPHERE
Surface Air Pressure = NO WARMING in ATMOSPHERE
Can anyone refute 600 miles to the Pole? NO
Global Warming aka CO2 FRAUD has been completely refuted. There is NO WARMING. Increasing atmospheric CO2 does NOT CAUSE WARMING. Hence, there is no reason to restrict CO2....
ReinyDays
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There you go again ... anti-learning ...
Okay ... I'll try to use small words ... WHAT evidence that Earth's current warming is faster than the warming from 1910-1940? ... and how are you demonstrating carbon dioxide's supernatural radiative reactivity? ...
Stefan-Boltzmann refutes your claims ... irradiation is proportional to temperature raised to the fourth power ... we have to greatly increase CO2 to raise temperatures a little ... and one degree Celsius is tiny ...
Budda doesn't want to learn ... the algebra is way too difficult ...
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If you need to believe that the climatologists who overwhelming concur regarding the reality of anthropogenic global warming - who compiled and analysed the data that you cherry-pick - all fail to take it into account, do you agree with the blowhard that they are all "stupid" and/or "evil"?
EMH
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YOU PARROT THEM OR ELSE!!!!
LOL!!!!
Don't need to, I've already completely refuted them, and they cannot refute me, so per the rules of science
EMH WINS
so you
PARROT THAT OR ELSE!!!!
ReinyDays
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They're poisonous to start with ... try to draw a swastika with gasoline in your Jewish neighbors lawn ... works great, eh? ...
They burn, the light ones explosively ... although the heavy ones good for cremating dead Jews ...
If you believe the Jews, then we can say fossil fuels are full of sulfur, and when burned creates acid rain ... but that might just be the Jews trying to murder everyone again ... you'd be the expert on that ...
ReinyDays
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No evidence then ... blindly following people you don't know ...
Dr. Chris Landsea, supervisor at the National Hurricane Center, claims we don't have enough data to make 100-year projections ... barely have enough data to forecast 5 days ahead ... why do you disagree with him? ...
The meteorology class I took required completion of first year college physics and first year calculus ... and the student needed to be concurrent with second year calculus ... for those students who struggled through the calculus classes, and the more advanced mathematics required are out of the question ... then the student is allowed to take a second year of statistics and major in climatology ...
In other words ... climate scientists aren't the brightest people in the world ... we could say they are the biologists of the natural sciences ...
Anti-learning and blind ... way to go ...
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You need to grasp the adverse economic consequences of your scientific denialism for the U.S. as well:
The worldwide recognition of anthropogenic climate change has led to...
In energy tachnology, the scientifically-clueless, ideologically-dogmtic blowhard is handing the United States a one-way ticket to Palookaville.
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ReinyDays
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Your need to worship them is pathetic ... blind religious fanatic ...
I've studied climatology ... it's pretty easy material compared to dynamic meteorology ...
You ... on the other hand ... refuse to learn ... just here to fling poop ...
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You claim "There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate." ... we're not supposed to think you stupid if you don't back that claim up ... if not then you're a liar ...
A link is fine ...
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Your personal opinion that your knowledge of climatology is superior to the combined, corroborative understanding of the planet's climatological specialists who compiled and analyzed the data is taken for what it's worth.
Is part of your agenda to surrender energy technology dominion to China?
[T]oday, coal is struggling to compete on cost. The levelized cost of electricity for new coal plants is more than double that of solar, wind and natural gas, according to BloombergNEF. And that’s before factoring in the environmental and public health costs of coal extraction and combustion.
The market knows this. Coal’s share of power generation in advanced economies has been in steady decline since it peaked in 2007, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA).
In the U.S., coal fell below 15% for the first time ever in 2024, and the trend is accelerating. The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis projects that the remaining 115,000 megawatts of coal capacity could be shuttered by 2040. Nearly a quarter of the existing U.S. coal fleet is already scheduled to retire by 2029.
Many of the plants still online are operating far below capacity. Reopening closed plants, or extending the lives of aging ones, is highly inefficient. Maintenance costs increase with age, and many units are now over 50 years old. The last large coal plant built in the U.S. came online in 2013, and since then, the pipeline has run dry.
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He is that way because he is a leftist who has embraced the conformist herd mentality, that is why he has nothing of substance to say it is ideology and little else.
ReinyDays
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What is that understanding? ... do you have a citation where any climate "specialist" has claimed to publish "unequivocal evidence" of anything in the scientific literature? ...
We have Columbia Gorge hydro here ... cheapest-in-the-nation electricity ... I personally advocate planting shade trees, instead of A/C ... vacationing locally instead of abroad ... and in general try to conserve energy ... flatlanding cityslickers don't know what a "clothes line" is or what "clothes pins" are used for ... so that's not considered in solar energy calculations ...
You ***** about China because you don't want to be rid of your damned A/C ...
ReinyDays
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He's just a childish little ***** is what he is ... it's the dumb-asses who don't know they're wrong ...
You and I are stubborn ... we know we're wrong ... we just refuse to admit it is all ... [wink wink nudge nudge] ...
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