Happy Columbus Day !!

......the Native Americans displaced/decimated/TORTURED/warred on/raped/etc other tribes long before the whites came
..they are no better or worse
the whites are no more evil or worse
VERY stupid/unrealistic/fairytale/etc to think so
Bullshit. The natives didnt come over to europe killing people. Whites came over here. Thats way worse. Brothers can fight in the home. When a stranger comes into the home he is loses any semblance of moral or ethical superiority or equivalence..
 
Time to celebrate the birth of western culture on this hemisphere !!! :5_1_12024:

Everything you need to know about NYC’s Columbus Day Parade

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For the 74th year running, the annual Columbus Day Parade—which bills itself as “the world’s largest celebration of Italian-American culture”—will march up Fifth Avenue on Monday, October 8. This year, parade organizer tapped First Data Corporation president Guy Chiarello as grand marshal and more than one million spectators are anticipated for the event.

Last year, the Columbus Day parade drew a higher amount of skepticism, as calls to remove the Christopher Columbus statue at Columbus Circle made the rounds. While Columbus is credited with encouraging European exploration in the Americas, many take issue with the devastating effects that his exploits had on indigenous people in the Caribbean and beyond.
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Everything you need to know about NYC’s Columbus Day Parade

I assuming Columbus being celebrated for' discovering' the 'new world'. And not for being a slaver and tyrant.
 
An explorer , killer, distributor of biological pathogens, rapist , looter. Why is holiday still being celebrated?!
 
An explorer , killer, distributor of biological pathogens, rapist , looter. Why is holiday still being celebrated?!

Because of the woman whose tongue he had cut out when she suggested he was of low birth. Or the man Columbus had sold into slavery and disfigured by amputating his nose and ears......for stealing an ear of corn.

Presumably.
 
If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

But thanks to modern Western technology, the Amerindian population rebounded quite nicely and there are even more of them to bitch and whine than when Christopher arrived.
 
If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.
 
Which shows how little you know.

Whites were not innocent and no saints but there was a much more awdul scourge called Islam which was one of the motives for Columbus to make his journey.

The Awful Scourge in that they had to pay the Muslims to get stuff from India and China!

Okay, whatever.. 75% of Native Americans had died within a century of Columbus... that's how bad it was.
 
Which shows how little you know.

Whites were not innocent and no saints but there was a much more awdul scourge called Islam which was one of the motives for Columbus to make his journey.

The Awful Scourge in that they had to pay the Muslims to get stuff from India and China!

Okay, whatever.. 75% of Native Americans had died within a century of Columbus... that's how bad it was.
Lol
Na, not really
You don’t understand the issue
 
If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.
 
If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.
 
If you think cultural genocide is something worth celebrating, um, yeah. I guess.

What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

Well then he was punished wasn't he? But he only went too far AGAIN for the morals of the time.

the Aztecs used to cut out the live hearts of their sacrifices for gods sake, talk about barbaric.

Plus, do you have any solid links documenting these atrocities?
 
What Europeans did to the natives is nothing different from what they did to each other, except the Europeans had better weapons and military science.

And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

What is the 'morality' of slavery, torture, mutilation and execution without trial?

Explain it to us.
 
They were superior, thus why the western countries are superior and still call the shots.
You have no chouce but to play by the rules that MY ancestors laid down.
Every working and waking moment of every single day of yours is based on what my ancestors laid down.
Your paycheck, your home, your transportation, EVERYTHING is based on what my ancestors laid down, and there's not one fucking thing you can do about it.
They were only superior in carrying diseases and genocide. Typical cavemen.
Everything you know of and can even conceive of is based on knowledge my ancestor taught you. There is a reason you have never accomplished anything without major assistance from other cultures You lack originality. There is a reason you couldnt even make up your own alphabets and numbering systems. You lack the brain power. So in short go sell that white boy insecurity propaganda to someone that doesnt know your history. :laugh:

Uh huh :laugh:

You cannot even take a shit in a toilet without thanking a white man.
Everything you do today, every invention, every dead president you spend, it's all from a system my ancestors set up for you.
You're welcome :laugh:.
Sure I can. Black people invented toilets not whites. Why do you think europe smelled like shit and piss? Where do you think the phrase "I dont have a pot to piss in" came from?
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A History of Humanity's Disgusting Hygiene

Again name one thing whites have done that didnt depend on knowledge from another culture? Just one thing.

The first modern flush toilets were invented by a white man.
You cant claim something was invented that was already invented dummy.
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I don't believe I have ever come across anyone that is in such utter denial as you.
There's no point in even arguing with you.
 
Pointing out the violence and excesses of the people Columbus found is not much of a defense of his and his kindred Europeans'.
 
And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

What is the 'morality' of slavery, torture, mutilation and execution without trial?

Explain it to us.

Meaningless question.

But as for examples, during this time period after some European battles, the surrendered troops that were not worth ransoming were often slaughtered.

So there is your "execution without trial"
 
And there are more Amerindians alive today than when Columbus landed.

the introduction of small pox was not something that he chose, which killed around 90% of the Amerindian population.

The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

What is the 'morality' of slavery, torture, mutilation and execution without trial?

Explain it to us.
That’s easy. Conquest for the benefit of ones own people.
 
The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

What is the 'morality' of slavery, torture, mutilation and execution without trial?

Explain it to us.
That’s easy. Conquest for the benefit of ones own people.

So its moral to mutilate, torture and execute civilians without trial if it 'benefits one's own people'?

If so, um....wow.
 
The 500 slaves he returned with most definitely were his choice. As were executions without trial and the use of torture and murder as methods of putting down rebellions in the people he enslaved.

And you don't think the natives did the same to other tribes?

Slavery was common during that period, especially in Sub-saharan Africa.

These slaves were taken from the Carrebean. With Columbus initiating a slave trade that didn't exist. And using torture, mutilation, disfigurement and murder without trial to control the native people's he'd enslaved.

I assume that these aren't the parts of Columbus' legacy that we celebrate on Columbus day.

Stop applying modern morals to past time periods with the intent to make it somehow seem aberrant for the time period.

Cutting out a woman's tongue for insulting him? Disfiguring a man by cutting off his ears and nose for stealing an ear of corn? These were not typical actions of the era.

His actions were so brutal and eggregious that even by the standards of his day it was enough to get him stripped of his governorship and shipped back to Spain in chains. With Queen Isabella being disgusted by the slaves he brought brought back with him.

The natives had their own customs of slavery and warfare and conquest. Again you apply modern morals to only one side for some reason.

What is the 'morality' of slavery, torture, mutilation and execution without trial?

Explain it to us.

Meaningless question.

But as for examples, during this time period after some European battles, the surrendered troops that were not worth ransoming were often slaughtered.

So there is your "execution without trial"

These weren't troops. These were civiilians. Murdered, disfigured, mutilated, and tortured. Some for infractions as trivial as stealing an ear of corn or saying something insulting about Columbus.

Explain the 'morality' of those actions.
 

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