Hamas TV Children's Show Encourages Killing of Jews

[Beelzebub]

Yes they are Lipush.

But they are not Zionists.

See my previous post showing definitions, as you are still getting confused.

 

[azai]

"Neturei Karta are not Jews"

lol, yes they are fully Jewish, probably more Jewish than you. Your statement makes you a horrible anti-Semite!

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

"Neturei Karta are not Jews"

lol, yes they are fully Jewish, probably more Jewish than you. Your statement makes you a horrible anti-Semite!

You antsemites are certainly showing yourselves up.

 

[aris2chat]

No they wont.

SC: "Oh yes they will."

Is this your best level of debate Caroline?

Yes!

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

the context of the picture is somewhat different. The children had been cooped up in shelters due to heavy bombing from Lebanon. The children of Kiryat Shmona when they came out were drawing pictures and writing their names and greeting of friendship so they would stop attacking their town. It was not done in malice.

Sebastian Scheiner was the photographer

 

[Beelzebub]

"Neturei Karta are not Jews"

lol, yes they are fully Jewish, probably more Jewish than you. Your statement makes you a horrible anti-Semite!

You antsemites are certainly showing yourselves up.

Presuming you mean us anti-Zionists

Then Yes.
Showing ourselves up as honest and truthful.

Now, on what basis do you deny that these very Jewish looking gentlemen "are not Jewish"?
Enquiring minds want to know ...

 

[azai]

Lipush is an anti-Semite, while Hamas is not, some delicious irony!

 

[montelatici]

Yes!

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

the context of the picture is somewhat different. The children had been cooped up in shelters due to heavy bombing from Lebanon. The children of Kiryat Shmona when they came out were drawing pictures and writing their names and greeting of friendship so they would stop attacking their town. It was not done in malice.

Sebastian Scheiner was the photographer

" It was not done in malice."

And, you expect anyone to take you seriously? You are the most unbelievable apologist for the Zionists I have ever witnessed.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

"Neturei Karta are not Jews"

lol, yes they are fully Jewish, probably more Jewish than you. Your statement makes you a horrible anti-Semite!

You antsemites are certainly showing yourselves up.

Presuming you mean us anti-Zionists

Then Yes.
Showing ourselves up as honest and truthful.

Now, on what basis do you deny that these very Jewish looking gentlemen "are not Jewish"?
Enquiring minds want to know ...

Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people should have their homeland in Israel. Therefore you are against the Jewish people.

Those "Jewish looking gentlemen" are a cult and do not represent the majority of Jews.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

the context of the picture is somewhat different. The children had been cooped up in shelters due to heavy bombing from Lebanon. The children of Kiryat Shmona when they came out were drawing pictures and writing their names and greeting of friendship so they would stop attacking their town. It was not done in malice.

Sebastian Scheiner was the photographer

" It was not done in malice."

And, you expect anyone to take you seriously? You are the most unbelievable apologist for the Zionists I have ever witnessed.

I don't blame those kids at all. They had been traumatized. They are probably now in the IDF hopefully doing very well.

 

[Beelzebub]

No, I would not blame the kids.

I would blame the adults and their parents of course.
If you are against indoctrinating children, you really should be against indoctrinating children of both sides Sweet Caroline.

Did you watch the vid posted by Montelatici, Sc?

Here is the link:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/9064136-post10.html

If that isn't Israeli indoctrination, I don't know what is.
Do you support it?

And no, no one blames the kids.

Those kids will be drafted into the Israeli Defense Forces in about four years time, and they are aware that Israel is still at war and likely to be so for a while unfortunately.

I am not sure if I understand you right Caroline.
Are you saying that because these children - in four years time - (I hope not - some were maybe 8 years old) would be drafted into the IDF, to face live ammunition and maybe kill or die - when they are very young adults. Are you saying than because they will be abused in this way, FORCED to go to war by their state, that it you agree with them being indoctrinated as children?

That's what you seem to indicate, but I find it hard to believe you would really mean that.
Would appreciate it if you would confirm or deny.

Thank you.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No, I would not blame the kids.

I would blame the adults and their parents of course.
If you are against indoctrinating children, you really should be against indoctrinating children of both sides Sweet Caroline.

Did you watch the vid posted by Montelatici, Sc?

Here is the link:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/9064136-post10.html

If that isn't Israeli indoctrination, I don't know what is.
Do you support it?

And no, no one blames the kids.

Those kids will be drafted into the Israeli Defense Forces in about four years time, and they are aware that Israel is still at war and likely to be so for a while unfortunately.

I am not sure if I understand you right Caroline.
Are you saying that because these children - in four years time - (I hope not - some were maybe 8 years old) would be drafted into the IDF, to face live ammunition and maybe kill or die - when they are very young adults. Are you saying than because they will be abused in this way, FORCED to go to war by their state, that it you agree with them being indoctrinated as children?

That's what you seem to indicate, but I find it hard to believe you would really mean that.
Would appreciate it if you would confirm or deny.

Thank you.

I am afraid there is no pu55y-footing around. Kids in Israel grow up quickly with the realities of constant wars.

The video was filmed 2 years ago, and in four or so years some of the kids will be in the IDF.

 

[Beelzebub]

Ok.

So you are supportive of indoctrinating Israeli children from a young age.
But you seem to be against indoctrinating Palestinian children from a young age.

Surely that is not principle, you are just supporting your team?

In any case, indoctrinating of children in hate and the wish to kill, really is very uncilivised, both of Hamas, and of Israel.

Correct me if I am wrong Caroline, but Hamas may actually have the moral high ground here (wow!) because they don't conscript all able bodied men and women into their military.

Whereas Israel will FORCE their men and women to go fight, kill and die.
I would expect even Libertarians in the US should have an issue with that.

 

[Beelzebub]

Seems to fit the tread:

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Ok.

So you are supportive of indoctrinating Israeli children from a young age.
But you seem to be against indoctrinating Palestinian children from a young age.

Surely that is not principle, you are just supporting your team?

In any case, indoctrinating of children in hate and the wish to kill, really is very uncilivised, both of Hamas, and of Israel.

Correct me if I am wrong Caroline, but Hamas may actually have the moral high ground here (wow!) because they don't conscript all able bodied men and women into their military.

Whereas Israel will FORCE their men and women to go fight, kill and die.
I would expect even Libertarians in the US should have an issue with that.

Spoken like a lucky, spoiled American, who doesn't have to serve, and who's not surrounded by enemies.

 

[Beelzebub]

Lipush is an anti-Semite, while Hamas is not, some delicious irony!

You noticed too?

Well, I hope we can get Lipush to reconsider, and stop piling the blame on Jews and Judaism.
Its a surprise that Zionism gets away with it so much.

 

[Beelzebub]

Ok.

So you are supportive of indoctrinating Israeli children from a young age.
But you seem to be against indoctrinating Palestinian children from a young age.

Surely that is not principle, you are just supporting your team?

In any case, indoctrinating of children in hate and the wish to kill, really is very uncilivised, both of Hamas, and of Israel.

Correct me if I am wrong Caroline, but Hamas may actually have the moral high ground here (wow!) because they don't conscript all able bodied men and women into their military.

Whereas Israel will FORCE their men and women to go fight, kill and die.
I would expect even Libertarians in the US should have an issue with that.

Spoken like a lucky, spoiled American, who doesn't have to serve, and who's not surrounded by enemies.

You don't have to insult me there FY.

But still, if Israel wanted peace it would not have been building new settlements for the last 20 years, while pretending at "Piece Talks".

PS:
You don't actually disagree with my points then. You just resent them?

 

[aris2chat]

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

the context of the picture is somewhat different. The children had been cooped up in shelters due to heavy bombing from Lebanon. The children of Kiryat Shmona when they came out were drawing pictures and writing their names and greeting of friendship so they would stop attacking their town. It was not done in malice.

Sebastian Scheiner was the photographer

" It was not done in malice."

And, you expect anyone to take you seriously? You are the most unbelievable apologist for the Zionists I have ever witnessed.

the context of the picture is somewhat different. The children had been cooped up in shelters due to heavy bombing from Lebanon. The children of Kiryat Shmona when they came out were drawing pictures and writing their names and greeting of friendship so they would stop attacking their town. It was not done in malice.

Sebastian Scheiner was the photographer[/QUOTE]

" It was not done in malice."

And, you expect anyone to take you seriously? You are the most unbelievable apologist for the Zionists I have ever witnessed.[/QUOTE]

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I gave you the photographer's name so contact him.
Would you have been happier if they had wish all lebanese dead or wrote hate message like those that muslims and palestinians learn in school?
Instead of flowers and pretty pictures they should have drawn figures with blood gushing from their necks?

I understand that you might not know everything or need clarity about the some of the issues. Ask if anyone reading might be able to answer your questions. If you disagree, give some supporting facts in rebuttal. Discuss it, be willing to learn something new along the way. I don't care how you phrase it, I'm tired of you calling me a liar instead of addressing the facts of the post. If you find someone willing to talk to you, insulting them is not going to make them want to continue a conversation. You are using a childish attack instead of an educational or knowledgeable reply.

 

[Beelzebub]

Stop making excused aris.

Writing messages on lethal killing equipment will never be cute.

And you haven't even begun to address the vid posted by Montelatici on page 1.
Can you invent more excuses for the children expressing their wishes to be killing people?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Ok.

So you are supportive of indoctrinating Israeli children from a young age.
But you seem to be against indoctrinating Palestinian children from a young age.

Surely that is not principle, you are just supporting your team?

In any case, indoctrinating of children in hate and the wish to kill, really is very uncilivised, both of Hamas, and of Israel.

Correct me if I am wrong Caroline, but Hamas may actually have the moral high ground here (wow!) because they don't conscript all able bodied men and women into their military.

Whereas Israel will FORCE their men and women to go fight, kill and die.
I would expect even Libertarians in the US should have an issue with that.

You're in Australia are you because you have a topsy turvy way of looking at the IP situation. Israel is entitled to exist in peace without being attacked left, right and center.

You think Hamas has a moral ground? Well, now I have heard everything.

Israel is defending its very existence - an existence that you would rather see destroyed.

 

[Roudy]

"Neturei Karta are not Jews"

lol, yes they are fully Jewish, probably more Jewish than you. Your statement makes you a horrible anti-Semite!

They are a small cult that do not represent the thinking of 99.99999% of world Jewry.

Sorry to bust your bub.