Hamas TV Children's Show Encourages Killing of Jews

[Beelzebub]

... Nobody can deny the translation of the video, which I will post here again. ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Q8K5TmivM

That is a false and misleading translation.


There you go Caroline.
You were wrong.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

... Nobody can deny the translation of the video, which I will post here again. ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Q8K5TmivM

That is a false and misleading translation.


There you go Caroline.
You were wrong.

You obviously have no knowledge of Hebrew or Arabic. The video posted in the first post on this thread is an absolute spot-on translation.

 

[Beelzebub]

Nonsense Caroline.

That is as accurate as your image of an Israeli flag painted on the face of a Palestinian boy.

Memri is an utterly partizan organisation spreading black propaganda about Palestinians and Arabs, which only the very naive accept at face value.

You note, even their Youtube post blocks comment, as Arabic scholars would otherwise be there to debunk them, licketty split.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Nonsense Caroline.

That is as accurate as your image of an Israeli flag painted on the face of a Palestinian boy.

Memri is an utterly partizan organisation spreading black propaganda about Palestinians and Arabs, which only the very naive accept at face value.

You note, even their Youtube post blocks comment, as Arabic scholars would otherwise be there to debunk them, licketty split.

As I said, it is an accurate translation. If you feel it is inaccurate then you have to post what they are saying.

 

[Beelzebub]

I have to?

Are you sure?

Look, I could sit there for hours formulating their script in English, but guess what?!
At the end you would say: "No. I don't agree."

So you are just being silly. Again. Caroline. My sweet.

Now, as Memri clearly has a track record of mistranslation, for partizan purposes, it is up to you to prove they are in this rare instance, NOT lying.

Can you find any non-Zionist source who can corroborate their hilarious latest attempt at black propaganda?

Can you Sweet?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

I have to?

Are you sure?

Look, I could sit there for hours formulating their script in English, but guess what?!
At the end you would say: "No. I don't agree."

So you are just being silly. Again. Caroline. My sweet.

Now, as Memri clearly has a track record of mistranslation, for partizan purposes, it is up to you to prove they are in this rare instance, NOT lying.

Can you find any non-Zionist source who can corroborate their hilarious latest attempt at black propaganda?

Can you Sweet?

Anyone with a knowledge of Arabic or Hebrew will confirm that is a good translation.

 

[Beelzebub]

No they wont.

SC: "Oh yes they will."

Is this your best level of debate Caroline?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No they wont.

SC: "Oh yes they will."

Is this your best level of debate Caroline?

Yes!

 

[Politico]

Their home. Their right to transmit what they want.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Their home. Their right to transmit what they want.

And it shows that they have no interest in peace. If they have then they would be encouraging peace, not encouraging children to throw stones at Jews. Stones and rocks maim and kill. One four year old has been in hospital for over a year since the car she was travelling in with her family had a rock thrown at it from Arabs.

 

[Beelzebub]

No they wont.

SC: "Oh yes they will."

Is this your best level of debate Caroline?

Yes!

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No they wont.

SC: "Oh yes they will."

Is this your best level of debate Caroline?

Yes!

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

Yes, it would be good, but of course when rockets are firing on you, and you have to spend day and nights in bomb shelters, your kids can't go to school, or you have 15 seconds between the Tseva Adom siren to take cover, I suppose it is hard. When the Gazans stop firing rockets into Israel that will be a good start, wouldn't you say?

These kids in the photo lived right by the Lebanon border and it was wartime.

 

[Beelzebub]

So are you saying that because there was a war on that day, the children were encouraged and allowed to go and write messages on the artillery, which would be deployed from miles away at Palestinian cities?

Or that it is fair to indoctrinate Israeli kids in war, weapons and the hope of killing people they have never met because of hostilities?


When you say "there was a war" do you mean "Operation Cast Lead" when Israel hit Gaza schools with Phosphorous bombs from F15's? What was the death count for either side on that?

Was this a war of manoeuvre for either side, or was the IDF just shooting fish in the open prison of Gaza? And this war that put Israeli children at risk. Were Palestinian children at the same risk, more risk, or less?

If more, would it still be ok for Israel to indoctrinate children, but not Palestine ones?


I hope that is not too many questions at one time. Pick any one if you are busy.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

So are you saying that because there was a war on that day, the children were encouraged and allowed to go and write messages on the artillery, which would be deployed from miles away at Palestinian cities?

Or that it is fair to indoctrinate Israeli kids in war, weapons and the hope of killing people they have never met because of hostilities?


When you say "there was a war" do you mean "Operation Cast Lead" when Israel hit Gaza schools with Phosphorous bombs from F15's? What was the death count for either side on that?

Was this a war of manoeuvre for either side, or was the IDF just shooting fish in the open prison of Gaza? And this war that put Israeli children at risk. Were Palestinian children at the same risk, more risk, or less?

If more, would it still be ok for Israel to indoctrinate children, but not Palestine ones?


I hope that is not too many questions at one time. Pick any one if you are busy.

As I said those kids were writing on rockets set for Nasrallah in Lebanon. I do not mean Cast Lead. Civilians in Israel are targeted by rockets from north and south during war, and of course Israel is still at war with Gaza. Do not blame kids for putting Nasrallah's name on a rocket when those same kids have had family connections that have fought in wars.

 

[Beelzebub]

No, I would not blame the kids.

I would blame the adults and their parents of course.
If you are against indoctrinating children, you really should be against indoctrinating children of both sides Sweet Caroline.

Did you watch the vid posted by Montelatici, Sc?

Here is the link:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/9064136-post10.html

If that isn't Israeli indoctrination, I don't know what is.
Do you support it?

And no, no one blames the kids.

 

[montelatici]

Yes!

Oh dear.

Well, lets move on then.

Let's agree there is a great deal of frustration in Palestine with the Israelis - for "various reasons"
And not much love.
And quite a bit of hate. Not to mention the quite legitimate desire to resist the Israeli military who each day break international law in its occupation and persecution of Palestinians.

Would you say that Israelis and Palestinians should not foster lethal hatred of each other, but rather ought to encourage understanding, while demanding equal justice for families and individuals of both sides?

Yes, it would be good, but of course when rockets are firing on you, and you have to spend day and nights in bomb shelters, your kids can't go to school, or you have 15 seconds between the Tseva Adom siren to take cover, I suppose it is hard. When the Gazans stop firing rockets into Israel that will be a good start, wouldn't you say?

These kids in the photo lived right by the Lebanon border and it was wartime.

Then you agree that with all the Israeli oppression, including them killing of 1,000s of their women and children, the Palestinians are justified in behaving like the Jewish children in terms of hating the enemy.

 

[azai]

I don't have an issue with anything Hamas does 99% of the time. Jews are the oppressive enemy, so in this context, attacking them is fine.

Also remember that these antizionist Jews were hosted as friends by Hamas in 2009

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No, I would not blame the kids.

I would blame the adults and their parents of course.
If you are against indoctrinating children, you really should be against indoctrinating children of both sides Sweet Caroline.

Did you watch the vid posted by Montelatici, Sc?

Here is the link:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/9064136-post10.html

If that isn't Israeli indoctrination, I don't know what is.
Do you support it?

And no, no one blames the kids.

Those kids will be drafted into the Israeli Defense Forces in about four years time, and they are aware that Israel is still at war and likely to be so for a while unfortunately.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

I don't have an issue with anything Hamas does 99% of the time. Jews are the oppressive enemy, so in this context, attacking them is fine.

Also remember that these antizionist Jews were hosted as friends by Hamas in 2009

You don't have an issue with Hamas 99% of the time. What about the 1% - what does that consist of?

 

[Lipush]

I don't have an issue with anything Hamas does 99% of the time. Jews are the oppressive enemy, so in this context, attacking them is fine.

Also remember that these antizionist Jews were hosted as friends by Hamas in 2009

Neturei Karta are not Jews