Hamas Didn't Carry Our the Massacre --Israel Did

[irosie91]

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That's the point at which I slam their asses into the SHUT-THE-****-UP cage. That one lives there permanently now.

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I agree, that's why I said "probably." But since you do that all the time, perhaps take your own advice?

you have some examples of my claiming I know what this or that
person THINKS?

 

[irosie91]

Islam promotes mental retardation

based on the nature of islamo-nazi propaganda---the GROSS DENIAL
thing is INEVITABLE

 

[Redfish]

Sunni Man , this is what your fellow rightwingers and Republicans think about you and your people.

Are you finally going to snap out of your political stupor and wise up?

coming from a muslim who hates jews and Christians, you comments mean nothing.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Did Hamas invade Israel with a military strike? Yes, of course

Hamas is calling you a liar.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It is definitely true, especially among Palestinians.

Pakistanis are another group that are extremely inbred.

If you want some stats, just do a search for consanguinity rates for various places

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True all over the Arab world.

I have less experience with Palestinians, but I had a friend who "tutored" college kids mostly from the Persian Gulf, so they were pretty much constantly in and out, and the obvious inbreeding in her "clients" was a thing to behold.

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[Carl in Michigan]

I see that you lack the intelligence necessary to understand the logical fallacy of an appeal to popularity as well.

I noticed she didn't actually answer the question

 

[Lisa558]

Most of all it depends on which side is able to sell their propaganda the best.

Right now there's no contest. The Zionist apartheid regime is even losing the American people.

The majority of Americans are loudly complaining that it's only Biden and his government that are on the side of the Zionists!

What goes around for evil apartheid and mass murder of civilians is coming around finally!

Another ignorant liberal.

1) There is no apartheid in Israel. It‘s just a catchword that’s being bandied about by the antisemites. The only people who are calling for apartheid are the Muslim terrorists and the people in their side.

2) The majority of Americans stand with Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Most of all it depends on which side is able to sell their propaganda the best.

to what does it refer in your statement?

 

[MisterBeale]

Hamas is calling you a liar.

Palestinian resistance in Gaza launches unprecedented surprise attack on Israel​

At around 6:30 a.m., Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza launched a surprise attack on Israel from land, sea, and air, as thousands of rockets have been launched into Israel and reportedly dozens of Israelis, including soldiers, have been killed and abducted by the resistance.

Palestinian resistance in Gaza launches unprecedented surprise attack on Israel

At around 6:30 a.m., Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza launched a surprise attack on Israel from land, sea, and air, as thousands of rockets have been launched into Israel and reportedly dozens of Israelis, including soldiers, have been killed and abducted by the resistance.

mondoweiss.net

". . . At 7:50 a.m., the general commander of the Hamas military wing, Muhammed al-Deif, released a recorded statement declaring a “comprehensive war” across occupied Palestine.

“We announce the starting of the Operation of the ‘Flood of al-Aqsa.’ We also announce that the first attack that targeted the enemy’s locations and military fortifications and airports during the first 20 minutes exceeded 5,000 rockets and shells,” the statement said.

Al-Deif’s statement said the operation was a response to Israel’s treatment of Palestinian prisoners and the continued attacks and violations at the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, which have seen an increase in recent days as large numbers of Israeli settlers raided the compound during the Jewish holiday season.

“The occupation forces invade our towns in the West Bank every day, they storm people’s homes while they’re safe, they kill, wound, demolish, and detain Palestinians. Hundreds of Palestinians were killed and injured this year. At the same time, the occupation replaced our people and took their land by force to build settlements,” al-Deif said, adding that “the criminal Israeli siege is ongoing in Gaza.”

“Amid all the Israeli crimes and violations, and their violation of international laws, with the full support of the US and the Western countries accompanied by international silence, we have decided to put a halt to this state of affairs. The enemy must understand that the time of carrying out violations with impunity is over,” the statement said.

Shortly before 11 a.m. local time, the Israeli military announced it was launching Operation Iron Swords on Gaza. Within minutes, Israeli airstrikes began striking targets across the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Ministry of Health reported at least one Palestinian was killed and several others were wounded when an Israeli airstrike hit the Indonesian Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip.. . . "

 

[Lisa558]

Palestinian resistance in Gaza launches unprecedented surprise attack on Israel​

At around 6:30 a.m., Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza launched a surprise attack on Israel from land, sea, and air, as thousands of rockets have been launched into Israel and reportedly dozens of Israelis, including soldiers, have been killed and abducted by the resistance.

Palestinian resistance in Gaza launches unprecedented surprise attack on Israel

At around 6:30 a.m., Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza launched a surprise attack on Israel from land, sea, and air, as thousands of rockets have been launched into Israel and reportedly dozens of Israelis, including soldiers, have been killed and abducted by the resistance.

mondoweiss.net

". . . At 7:50 a.m., the general commander of the Hamas military wing, Muhammed al-Deif, released a recorded statement declaring a “comprehensive war” across occupied Palestine.

“We announce the starting of the Operation of the ‘Flood of al-Aqsa.’ We also announce that the first attack that targeted the enemy’s locations and military fortifications and airports during the first 20 minutes exceeded 5,000 rockets and shells,” the statement said.

Al-Deif’s statement said the operation was a response to Israel’s treatment of Palestinian prisoners and the continued attacks and violations at the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, which have seen an increase in recent days as large numbers of Israeli settlers raided the compound during the Jewish holiday season.

“The occupation forces invade our towns in the West Bank every day, they storm people’s homes while they’re safe, they kill, wound, demolish, and detain Palestinians. Hundreds of Palestinians were killed and injured this year. At the same time, the occupation replaced our people and took their land by force to build settlements,” al-Deif said, adding that “the criminal Israeli siege is ongoing in Gaza.”

“Amid all the Israeli crimes and violations, and their violation of international laws, with the full support of the US and the Western countries accompanied by international silence, we have decided to put a halt to this state of affairs. The enemy must understand that the time of carrying out violations with impunity is over,” the statement said.

Shortly before 11 a.m. local time, the Israeli military announced it was launching Operation Iron Swords on Gaza. Within minutes, Israeli airstrikes began striking targets across the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Ministry of Health reported at least one Palestinian was killed and several others were wounded when an Israeli airstrike hit the Indonesian Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip.. . . "

WTH? You’re a moderator, and you’re using Mondoweiss as a source?That’s an extremely antisemitic site.

No wonder you’re on the wrong side.

 

[buttercup]

WTH? You’re a moderator, and you’re using Mondoweiss as a source?That’s an extremely antisemitic site.

No wonder you’re on the wrong side.

Read the post he was replying to. He was showing Carl that Hamas is not denying the attack. (I don't want to speak for him, but to me it seemed clear that was why he posted that.)

 

[MisterBeale]

WTH? You’re a moderator, and you’re using Mondoweiss as a source?That’s an extremely antisemitic site.

No wonder you’re on the wrong side.

I've looked through it, and I haven't seen anything explicitly "anti-Semitic."

I have seen A LOT of stuff that is really critical of Israel, TBH.

 

[irosie91]

Read the post he was replying to. He was showing Carl that Hamas is not denying the attack. (I don't want to speak for him, but to me it seemed clear that was why he posted that.)

I don't see where the post indicates that HAMAS IS NOT DENYING
THE ATTACK The statement by MUHUMMAD AL DEIF, simply, does
not address the issue of the attack. He addresses the RESPONSE only.
The implication is---IMO---that the attack itself is unrelated to
the response. In military law----a RESPONSE is legal just as in
criminal law a response to a felonious assault cannot be judge
without noting the instigating assault. In a court the statement
would probably be stricken

 

[MisterBeale]

Read the post he was replying to. He was showing Carl that Hamas is not denying the attack. (I don't want to speak for him, but to me it seemed clear that was why he posted that.)

Agreed.

I went to a source that posted news and information from a Palestinian PoV.

And then I get attacked with an Ad hominem fallacy?

FML.

You just can't win here.

Folks don't want to have a discussion in good faith, AT ALL.

 

[irosie91]

Agreed.

I went to a source that posted new and information from a Palestinian PoV.

And then I get attacked with an Ad hominem fallacy?

FML.

You just can't win here.

Folks don't want to have a discussion in good faith, AT ALL.

good idea ----stay informed----the statement was a JUSTIFICATION
FOR THE ATTACK (albeit chock full of lies) ------the inevitable denial followed. then again its a matter of TASTE. Josef Goebbels wrote well too----even
Magda was a good writer

 

[Foxfyre]

It seems that the large majority of the world's people agree and so based on America's and the Zionists' track record on war crimes and slaughter of civilians, I tend to agree until it's proven otherwise.

I mean, what can you do with opposing propaganda? Weigh reputations?

You don't have a clue re what a large majority of the people of the world agree. The MSM is not giving much of the Israeli point of view but, being a mostly leftist propaganda machine, they print only what is favorable to the Palestinians however much they have to stretch the truth or make things up to do that.

The generational divide over Israel and Palestine is widening

A new poll shows young voters diverge sharply from older ones, creating a challenge for the Democratic Party.

www.politico.com

 

[Donald H]

'IT' refers to being able to gather enough sympathy from the people of the world for the US to continue it's support of the Zionist regime. America can't continue to be the only country that supports the evil.

It's not as if we can't see what's been going on for 75 years.

And dredging up sympathy for the holocaust just isn't carrying much weight anymore.

Don't depend on me to carry the ball here. 80% of Americans are already siding against Biden and his pussyfooting around in bed with Netanyahu.

There's a move on for something different!

 

[Donald H]

You don't have a clue re what a large majority of the people of the world agree. The MSM is not giving much of the Israeli point of view but, being a mostly leftist propaganda machine, they print only what is favorable to the Palestinians however much they have to stretch the truth or make things up to do that.

The generational divide over Israel and Palestine is widening

A new poll shows young voters diverge sharply from older ones, creating a challenge for the Democratic Party.

www.politico.com

To you and others like you, I just say, praise the Zionists' lord and pass the US ammunition to them.

 

[MisterBeale]

The statement by MUHUMMAD AL DEIF, simply, does
not address the issue of the attack.

That was not what I needed to prove to Carl. I only needed to prove that the attack took place, and that Hamas admits that they assaulted Israel. The forensics and the folks that were there, are enough for us to surmise the nature of what happened.

good idea ----stay informed----the statement was a JUSTIFICATION
FOR THE ATTACK (albeit chock full of lies) ------the inevitable denial followed. then again its a matter of TASTE. Josef Goebbels wrote well too----even
Magda was a good writer

I proved this false by the source I used, with verbatim quotes from the leader of the military operation.

What you are having a problem with? Is the Hamas leader's subjective view and justification for the assault, not whether they admit to doing it.

I am not here to debate that in this thread, that is not the subject of the thread, nor is the source used for this fact. The fact in question? Was whether Hamas admits to a military assault on Israel, which I proved. Hamas is NOT calling me a liar, they admit to assaulting Israel.

 

[Donald H]

I pity you on Judgement day, repent and be saved

To you and all the others who are hanging on my words I can only say:

Start carrying your own ball, I don't have the time for the sky fairy routine again.