Habits of the "rich", habits of the "poor"

My position is these questions are a joke.
That is fine. I happen to think that many of the habits described in this informal poll are exactly what successful people do. They maximize their time doing those things that will get them ahead in life.

Sure they are. Especially when you add in your amazing assumptions. How many are like the Koch brothers and just inherited it?
Talk about assumptions.....You assume that they don't act and behave in a successful manner simply because their parents were successful and left them them financially well off? You think that the habits of successful parents are not passed along to children?

You're just grasping at any excuse now to save face as you've already lost ground in this discussion and continue to slip ever deeper into nothing but class envy.

A trait, btw, that is proven to unsuccessful for a persons life.


In fact, we are both indulging in a trait that is antithetical to success right now. Posting at each other on a forum that does not promote either of us forward in life.
 
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That is fine. I happen to think that many of the habits described in this informal poll are exactly what successful people do. They maximize their time doing those things that will get them ahead in life.

Sure they are. Especially when you add in your amazing assumptions. How many are like the Koch brothers and just inherited it?
Talk about assumptions.....You assume that they don't act and behave in a successful manner simply because their parents were successful and left them them financially well off? You think that the habits of successful parents are not passed along to children?

You're just grasping at any excuse now to save face as you've already lost ground in this discussion and continue to slip ever deeper into nothing but class envy.

A trait, btw, that is proven to unsuccessful for a persons life.


In fact, we are both indulging in a trait that is antithetical to success right now. Posting at each other on a forum that does not promote either of us forward in life.

My point is this poll requires too many assumptions to mean anything. I don't see how an intelligent person can disagree with that.

Yes we are. Maybe that is why those people get up 3 hours early, to post on forums.
 
the idiotic Left actually believes the rich are rich BECAUSE the poor are poor and vice versa

you cant fix stupid
 
there are MORE poor people since Progressives have been in power; LOTS more.

but it's all good because Progressives care...............
 
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The LAST thing they want to admit is that you can improve your own life with effort.

They will not cheer on the success of an individual.

It always has to have a government connection.

Sad to see. The decay continues.

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The LAST thing they want to admit is that you can improve your own life with effort.

They will not cheer on the success of an individual.

It always has to have a government connection.

Sad to see. The decay continues.

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I simply cannot understand why even the left would take a stand against something as trivial as this. It is common knowledge that successful people develop habits that help them to manage their time better along with a long list of other area's.

This shouldn't even be a partisan issue.
 
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The LAST thing they want to admit is that you can improve your own life with effort.

They will not cheer on the success of an individual.

It always has to have a government connection.

Sad to see. The decay continues.

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I simply cannot understand why even the left would take a stand against something as trivial as this. It is common knowledge that successful people develop habits that help them to manage their time better along with a long list of other area's.

This shouldn't even be a partisan issue.


I had a feeling it would be like this when I posted the thread.

If a person is successful, they did not earn it. No matter what. It belongs to "the people".

Hence my sig.

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If people put as much effort into actually doing what it takes to be successful as they do coming up with flimsy excuses as to why they can't, they'd be more successful.

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The rich confiscate for themselves vast amounts of the wealth produced by this country's labor that otherwise could have gone to that labor in the form of a bigger share through better wages benefits etc.

And the rich use that wealth in part to make it easier for them to confiscate even bigger shares.
 
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If people put as much effort into actually doing what it takes to be successful as they do coming up with flimsy excuses as to why they can't, they'd be more successful.

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The rich confiscate for themselves vast amounts of the wealth produced by this country's labor that otherwise could have gone to that labor in the form of a bigger share through better wages benefits etc.

And the rich use that wealth in part to make it easier for them to confiscate even bigger shares.



it's confiscate until they come after what you earned; then you will cry the government is confiscating your hard-earned money

libs are losers who lie to themselves
 
One of those two sentences is a lie. A successful person knows what it takes.

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Those things are what it takes? Getting up 3 hours before work? Sorry I don't waste my whole morning sitting around, I get to work. I don't waste time networking on Facebook either.
Where dies it say they are sitting around doing nothing? The assumptions you make are amazing.

And networking does not mean facebook.

Only losers think facebook is networking.
 
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If people put as much effort into actually doing what it takes to be successful as they do coming up with flimsy excuses as to why they can't, they'd be more successful.

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The rich confiscate for themselves vast amounts of the wealth produced by this country's labor that otherwise could have gone to that labor in the form of a bigger share through better wages benefits etc.

And the rich use that wealth in part to make it easier for them to confiscate even bigger shares.


What does your post have to do with mine?

Precisely?

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I'm told regularly that "the rich" just got lucky and didn't deserve that and stole that from someone and didn't earn that and didn't build that 'n stuff, but to no surprise, they're also just trying harder.

Percentage of people who wake up at least 3 hours before work:
Rich: 44%
Poor: 3%


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Does that count the rich who are making millions off someone else's work?

Do they wake up 3 hours before those people go to work?

You seem to forget that people sell their labor voluntarily.

They take a job for an agreed upon wage.

No one is getting ripped off because if they think they can get a better price for their labor elsewhere they are free to do just that aren't they?
 
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If people put as much effort into actually doing what it takes to be successful as they do coming up with flimsy excuses as to why they can't, they'd be more successful.

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The rich confiscate for themselves vast amounts of the wealth produced by this country's labor that otherwise could have gone to that labor in the form of a bigger share through better wages benefits etc.

And the rich use that wealth in part to make it easier for them to confiscate even bigger shares.
This is, of course. The Big Lie.

But complaining about who is getting more rather than going out and getting more for yourself is an unsuccessful habit.
 
Those things are what it takes? Getting up 3 hours before work? Sorry I don't waste my whole morning sitting around, I get to work. I don't waste time networking on Facebook either.
Where dies it say they are sitting around doing nothing? The assumptions you make are amazing.

And networking does not mean facebook.

Only losers think facebook is networking.
Nope. Most networking I know happens after work, usually in sports venues like golf or a local fitness club. There is also professional organizations that have monthly meetings where a person can meet business people and other people in their profession.

For most people, Facebook is about families. Lets face it, it is very rare that networking with family will give you an edge in business.
 
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Where dies it say they are sitting around doing nothing? The assumptions you make are amazing.

And networking does not mean facebook.

Only losers think facebook is networking.
Nope. Most networking I know happens after work, usually in sports venues like golf or a local fitness club. There is also professional organizations that have monthly meetings where a person can meet business people and other people in their profession.

For most people, Facebook is about families. Lets face it, it is very rare that networking with family will give you an edge in business.

Exactly business networking happens face to face not on line.
 



70 percent of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97 percent of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23 percent of wealthy gamble. 52 percent of poor people gamble.

The fact is that junk food tends to be less expensive than fresh produce and organic options. It also takes less time to prepare, which is important for so many working poor who have children while also working multiple jobs. And this doesn't even address the issue of food deserts, which is the term for the concentration of crappy food options (and the marketing that goes with it) in depressed communities, often with no healthy options within easy access.

As for the gambling bit, things like the lottery and bingo, which are two of the most popular types, are also marketed heavily and most accessible in poor communities. Oh, and though the poor may gamble a few dollars on a scratch ticket, the average gambling budget for a trip to Vegas is closer to $1,000.

80 percent of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12 percent of the poor do this.
It is a luxury to be able to focus on future goals. It tends to mean you're not as focused on day-to-day survival. You also probably receive much more conditioning in a middle- to upper-income family to think about the future, and the media also tells you this is what you should do. But if you and your kids are hungry, cold or at risk of missing rent, it's hard to plan and daydream.

76 percent of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23 percent of poor do this.
Yes, and most people who do this do so at a gym or on equipment they keep at home, both of which cost money. Yes, poorer people could simply take a jog, but in higher density urban areas this presents multiple challenges, not to mention the many working poor families who don't get home until after dark. Rich people tend to have more flexible time to exercise, especially if they have people helping with their domestic chores like yard maintenance, fixing a broken-down car, cooking, cleaning or laundry.

63 percent of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5 percent of poor people.
To listen to audio books you must have the actual audio books (which cost money), a media player to play them on (which costs money), and the uninterrupted time to listen (a luxury of those who ride to work alone). Yes, you can rent some audio books from a library, but you have to be able to get there and still need a player. Not quite as simple as me downloading it to my phone from iTunes.

79 percent of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16 percent of poor.
The wealthy also are the ones who are actively invited to participate in things like Rotary and the Chamber of Commerce. Why? Because they have more to offer others in attendance. They also have the time off of work more often to go to such things (try explaining to your WalMart manager that you need an hour off to go to your Rotary luncheon) and transportation to get there. Such networking groups also usually charge dues and even make you pay extra for meals, expect you to donate to their charitable causes, etc. Privilege, privilege, privilege.

You get the idea. Many of the stats have to do with spending more time reading, both alone and to our children. And yes, this has been empirically proven to make a huge impact on children's development and future success. But having worked at a Catholic Charities organization in economically challenged, Pueblo, CO, we found there that many families had no books in the home.

First, they weren't raised with it as a value in their home of origin. Second, they didn't have the cash to buy new books, and often they lacked the time and transportation to get themselves and their kids to the library. So one of our most popular programs was placing a new children's book in their homes once a month. Kids and parents both loved it. So Dave, if this is a great concern of yours, I'd suggest committing a significant portion of your own wealth to such a program for the poor you want to help.

I don't want to make excuses for anyone. We all can, at some points in our lives, transcend our circumstances and achieve amazing things. But to presume both that the proverbial playing field is level for all players, and also to draw the false correlation between all of these habits leading to wealth-making, rather than seeing how so many of them are byproducts of existing wealth, is myopic, privileged and fairly offensive.

How Financial Guru Dave Ramsey Missed the Mark

Americans are brought up to believe that if you work hard, you will succeed. That reality has been smashed by the liberalization of the economy that has created enormous wealth disparity and ground social mobility to a halt. The truth is that if you are born poor in America, you will remain poor, and if you are born with money, the chances are youÂ’ll get to keep it.[...]

If Corley wants to end poverty in America, he should stop telling poor people itÂ’s their fault and try to change the system that creates them.​

Rich People Are Much Better Than Poor People, Says Rich Person
 



70 percent of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97 percent of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23 percent of wealthy gamble. 52 percent of poor people gamble.

The fact is that junk food tends to be less expensive than fresh produce and organic options. It also takes less time to prepare, which is important for so many working poor who have children while also working multiple jobs. And this doesn't even address the issue of food deserts, which is the term for the concentration of crappy food options (and the marketing that goes with it) in depressed communities, often with no healthy options within easy access.

As for the gambling bit, things like the lottery and bingo, which are two of the most popular types, are also marketed heavily and most accessible in poor communities. Oh, and though the poor may gamble a few dollars on a scratch ticket, the average gambling budget for a trip to Vegas is closer to $1,000.

80 percent of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12 percent of the poor do this.
It is a luxury to be able to focus on future goals. It tends to mean you're not as focused on day-to-day survival. You also probably receive much more conditioning in a middle- to upper-income family to think about the future, and the media also tells you this is what you should do. But if you and your kids are hungry, cold or at risk of missing rent, it's hard to plan and daydream.

76 percent of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23 percent of poor do this.
Yes, and most people who do this do so at a gym or on equipment they keep at home, both of which cost money. Yes, poorer people could simply take a jog, but in higher density urban areas this presents multiple challenges, not to mention the many working poor families who don't get home until after dark. Rich people tend to have more flexible time to exercise, especially if they have people helping with their domestic chores like yard maintenance, fixing a broken-down car, cooking, cleaning or laundry.

63 percent of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5 percent of poor people.
To listen to audio books you must have the actual audio books (which cost money), a media player to play them on (which costs money), and the uninterrupted time to listen (a luxury of those who ride to work alone). Yes, you can rent some audio books from a library, but you have to be able to get there and still need a player. Not quite as simple as me downloading it to my phone from iTunes.

79 percent of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16 percent of poor.
The wealthy also are the ones who are actively invited to participate in things like Rotary and the Chamber of Commerce. Why? Because they have more to offer others in attendance. They also have the time off of work more often to go to such things (try explaining to your WalMart manager that you need an hour off to go to your Rotary luncheon) and transportation to get there. Such networking groups also usually charge dues and even make you pay extra for meals, expect you to donate to their charitable causes, etc. Privilege, privilege, privilege.

You get the idea. Many of the stats have to do with spending more time reading, both alone and to our children. And yes, this has been empirically proven to make a huge impact on children's development and future success. But having worked at a Catholic Charities organization in economically challenged, Pueblo, CO, we found there that many families had no books in the home.

First, they weren't raised with it as a value in their home of origin. Second, they didn't have the cash to buy new books, and often they lacked the time and transportation to get themselves and their kids to the library. So one of our most popular programs was placing a new children's book in their homes once a month. Kids and parents both loved it. So Dave, if this is a great concern of yours, I'd suggest committing a significant portion of your own wealth to such a program for the poor you want to help.

I don't want to make excuses for anyone. We all can, at some points in our lives, transcend our circumstances and achieve amazing things. But to presume both that the proverbial playing field is level for all players, and also to draw the false correlation between all of these habits leading to wealth-making, rather than seeing how so many of them are byproducts of existing wealth, is myopic, privileged and fairly offensive.
How Financial Guru Dave Ramsey Missed the Mark
Americans are brought up to believe that if you work hard, you will succeed. That reality has been smashed by the liberalization of the economy that has created enormous wealth disparity and ground social mobility to a halt. The truth is that if you are born poor in America, you will remain poor, and if you are born with money, the chances are youÂ’ll get to keep it.[...]

If Corley wants to end poverty in America, he should stop telling poor people itÂ’s their fault and try to change the system that creates them.​
Rich People Are Much Better Than Poor People, Says Rich Person
Wow, I see nothing but excuses here.
 



70 percent of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97 percent of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23 percent of wealthy gamble. 52 percent of poor people gamble.

The fact is that junk food tends to be less expensive than fresh produce and organic options. It also takes less time to prepare, which is important for so many working poor who have children while also working multiple jobs. And this doesn't even address the issue of food deserts, which is the term for the concentration of crappy food options (and the marketing that goes with it) in depressed communities, often with no healthy options within easy access.

As for the gambling bit, things like the lottery and bingo, which are two of the most popular types, are also marketed heavily and most accessible in poor communities. Oh, and though the poor may gamble a few dollars on a scratch ticket, the average gambling budget for a trip to Vegas is closer to $1,000.

80 percent of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12 percent of the poor do this.
It is a luxury to be able to focus on future goals. It tends to mean you're not as focused on day-to-day survival. You also probably receive much more conditioning in a middle- to upper-income family to think about the future, and the media also tells you this is what you should do. But if you and your kids are hungry, cold or at risk of missing rent, it's hard to plan and daydream.

76 percent of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23 percent of poor do this.
Yes, and most people who do this do so at a gym or on equipment they keep at home, both of which cost money. Yes, poorer people could simply take a jog, but in higher density urban areas this presents multiple challenges, not to mention the many working poor families who don't get home until after dark. Rich people tend to have more flexible time to exercise, especially if they have people helping with their domestic chores like yard maintenance, fixing a broken-down car, cooking, cleaning or laundry.

63 percent of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5 percent of poor people.
To listen to audio books you must have the actual audio books (which cost money), a media player to play them on (which costs money), and the uninterrupted time to listen (a luxury of those who ride to work alone). Yes, you can rent some audio books from a library, but you have to be able to get there and still need a player. Not quite as simple as me downloading it to my phone from iTunes.

79 percent of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16 percent of poor.
The wealthy also are the ones who are actively invited to participate in things like Rotary and the Chamber of Commerce. Why? Because they have more to offer others in attendance. They also have the time off of work more often to go to such things (try explaining to your WalMart manager that you need an hour off to go to your Rotary luncheon) and transportation to get there. Such networking groups also usually charge dues and even make you pay extra for meals, expect you to donate to their charitable causes, etc. Privilege, privilege, privilege.

You get the idea. Many of the stats have to do with spending more time reading, both alone and to our children. And yes, this has been empirically proven to make a huge impact on children's development and future success. But having worked at a Catholic Charities organization in economically challenged, Pueblo, CO, we found there that many families had no books in the home.

First, they weren't raised with it as a value in their home of origin. Second, they didn't have the cash to buy new books, and often they lacked the time and transportation to get themselves and their kids to the library. So one of our most popular programs was placing a new children's book in their homes once a month. Kids and parents both loved it. So Dave, if this is a great concern of yours, I'd suggest committing a significant portion of your own wealth to such a program for the poor you want to help.

I don't want to make excuses for anyone. We all can, at some points in our lives, transcend our circumstances and achieve amazing things. But to presume both that the proverbial playing field is level for all players, and also to draw the false correlation between all of these habits leading to wealth-making, rather than seeing how so many of them are byproducts of existing wealth, is myopic, privileged and fairly offensive.

How Financial Guru Dave Ramsey Missed the Mark

Americans are brought up to believe that if you work hard, you will succeed. That reality has been smashed by the liberalization of the economy that has created enormous wealth disparity and ground social mobility to a halt. The truth is that if you are born poor in America, you will remain poor, and if you are born with money, the chances are youÂ’ll get to keep it.[...]

If Corley wants to end poverty in America, he should stop telling poor people itÂ’s their fault and try to change the system that creates them.​

Rich People Are Much Better Than Poor People, Says Rich Person



waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!1
mommy mommy it's not their fault!!

junk food IS cheaper than good food!
and it takes better; and you dont have to cook it!!


libs are just idiots

good food is available; i doubt you losers on the Left actually know anybody who is poor.

some poor people would rather have nice clothes of an I-Phone than eat healthy. if you think that is just an insult on the poor you are an idiot; and gullible to boot. that is just a fact
 

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