H2O vs. CO2 Yet another observation the AGW Cult will ignore

[EMH]

Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry

Yes, there is but one brand of "science" that takes DATA that disagrees with the theory and continuously FUDGES IT to fit the clearly wrong THEORY...


and has an army of online taxpayer funded parroting MORONS who do not understand basic science at all.

 

[abu afak]

DISHONEST FRUSADER CRANK was SHUT UP BY THIS POST for TWO WEEKS and a few pages ago But Restarted it today.​

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Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?​

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of water vapor the atmosphere can hold is dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect. Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank 42 post (and counting) bungle destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.

EDIT: Now he restarted the BOGUS thread/LOSS after Two weeks.

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[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Water vapor is a more powerful GHG that CO2. H2O is Mike Tyson and CO2 is Woody Allen

The "theory" of Manmade Global Climate Warming Change is that the relatively recent CO2 increase from 280 to 420PPM will cause an extinction level event rivaled by the dinosaur killing asteroid. "

But..."Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat." Steamy Relationships: How Atmospheric Water Vapor Amplifies Earth's Greenhouse Effect – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

If H2O is more powerful where are the studies showing H2O back in 1850? What are they today? Does an additional 100PPM H2O raise temperature more that CO2

We told the leftists this fact 20 years ago back when Algore believed the plant has a fever. They, their dem masters and the “97% of scientists agree” completely ignored this scientific fact. Ignoring facts that disprove the narrative is a must for all leftists.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Water vapor is a more powerful GHG that CO2. H2O is Mike Tyson and CO2 is Woody Allen

The "theory" of Manmade Global Climate Warming Change is that the relatively recent CO2 increase from 280 to 420PPM will cause an extinction level event rivaled by the dinosaur killing asteroid. "

But..."Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat." Steamy Relationships: How Atmospheric Water Vapor Amplifies Earth's Greenhouse Effect – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

If H2O is more powerful where are the studies showing H2O back in 1850? What are they today? Does an additional 100PPM H2O raise temperature more that CO2

Of course we will ignore an uneducated slob posting on topics he knows nothing about, and listen to the scientific community instead. What did you expect?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, there is but one brand of "science" that takes DATA that disagrees with the theory and continuously FUDGES IT to fit the clearly wrong THEORY...


and has an army of online taxpayer funded parroting MORONS who do not understand basic science at all.

All hilariously stupid fantasy.

 

[EMH]

All hilariously stupid fantasy.

The Co2 fraud has cost the American taxpayer over $10 trillion so far.

 

[jc456]

Of course we will ignore an uneducated slob posting on topics he knows nothing about, and listen to the scientific community instead. What did you expect?

The experts of nothing. Especially CO2

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Really? Is that based on your doctorate level studies?

"When the surface warms, there's more evaporation and more moisture in the air. This decreases the lapse rate - there's less cooling aloft. This means warming aloft is greater than warming at the surface. This amplified trend is the hot spot. It's all to do with changes in the lapse rate, regardless of what's causing the warming. If the warming was caused by a brightening sun or reduced sulphate pollution, you'd still see a hot spot."

Understanding the significance of the tropospheric hot spot

<p>Satellite measurements match model results apart from in the tropics. There is uncertainty with the tropic data due to how various teams correct for satellite drift. The U.S. Climate Change Science Program conclude the discrepancy is most likely due to data errors.</p>

skepticalscience.com

Researchers have published results in Environmental Research Letters confirming strong warming in the upper troposphere, known colloquially as the tropospheric hotspot. The hot has been long expected as part of global warming theory and appears in many global climate models.
The inability to detect this hotspot previously has been used by those who doubt man-made global warming to suggest climate change is not occurring as a result of increasing carbon dioxide emissions.
"Using more recent data and better analysis methods we have been able to re-examine the global weather balloon network, known as radiosondes, and have found clear indications of warming in the upper troposphere," said lead author ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science Chief Investigator Prof Steve Sherwood.
"We were able to do this by producing a publicly available temperature and wind data set of the upper troposphere extending from 1958-2012, so it is there for anyone to see."

Climate scientists find elusive tropospheric hot spot

Researchers have published results in Environmental Research Letters confirming strong warming in the upper troposphere, known colloquially as the tropospheric hotspot. The hot has been long expected as part of global warming theory and appears in many global climate models.

phys.org

My story? What story is that? Do you mean these two articles from people who actually have PhDs and actually do research and publish on this very topic?

You seem to be vary knowledgeable on the subject. I’ve asked this question many times but never get an answer.Maybe you can help me out? .

Why did Michael Mann’s team at Penn State deliberately manipulate the temperature data t show an abrupt spike in their infamous hockey stick graph? The very graph that ignited the global warming movement.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Co2 fraud has cost the American taxpayer over $10 trillion so far.

Neat lie!

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The Co2 fraud has cost the American taxpayer over $10 trillion so far.

Taxpayer money to get democrats votes.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Water vapor is a more powerful GHG that CO2. H2O is Mike Tyson and CO2 is Woody Allen

The "theory" of Manmade Global Climate Warming Change is that the relatively recent CO2 increase from 280 to 420PPM will cause an extinction level event rivaled by the dinosaur killing asteroid. "

But..."Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat." Steamy Relationships: How Atmospheric Water Vapor Amplifies Earth's Greenhouse Effect – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

If H2O is more powerful where are the studies showing H2O back in 1850? What are they today? Does an additional 100PPM H2O raise temperature more that CO2

Demwits are about the only people who believe that the number one enemy of carbon-based life forms is carbon.

 

[EMH]

Neat lie!

What is the cost so far??

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What is the cost so far??

Your mommy doesn't work here. Sorry.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Of course we will ignore an uneducated slob posting on topics he knows nothing about, and listen to the scientific community instead. What did you expect?

Please post the list of the “97% of the scientific community agree.” So we can laugh at it again. That was one of my all time favorites!

 

[EMH]

Taxpayer money to get democrats votes.

Those in government create false scares and reasons to make themselves more important and more funded.

Covid and Global Warming are two, but not the only ones.

Marijuana and "islamic" terror are two more.

All have bilked us, duped us, stolen our money, ceded our rights, and made government big, unaccountable, greedy, and murderous....


Only Libertarians saw through all of that...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Please post the list of the “97% of the scientific community agree.”

Actually, it's the published science that agrees. And it's closer to 100%. Good luck with your little denier school project, son.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Your mommy doesn't work here. Sorry.

You could have just said you don’t know and don’t care.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Actually, it's the published science that agrees. And it's closer to 100%. Good luck with your little denier school project, son.

Cmon’ man. I need a good laugh!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Cmon’ man. I need a good laugh!

Then go try your denier act out on educated people. Trust me, they will laugh. A lot.

 

[jc456]

Then go try your denier act out on educated people. Trust me, they will laugh. A lot.

I’d like to see the names