Gun registration in California? They just signed a law giving gun owner information to outside parties..

[2aguy]

Except he didn't retract, he clarified. Yes, you get down to 2.7 if you take out the suicides and accidents... but those things still happen because there was a gun in the home.

Now, you say that you should count all the times a gun fetishist waves a gun at his black neighbor as a DGU.

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But by that same token, now often does a domestic abuser terrorize his family with a gun but never shoots them?

Sorry, man, your fetish is too expensive for the rest of us.

Moron, 43 down to 2.7? That is a retraction and even with that, as my links show, he still used faulty data…..

 

[JoeB131]

Me owning guns has zero affect on your life.

Except for the active shooter drills, security doors, militarized police, etc. that I have to pay for or deal with because it's only a matter of time before one of you goes nuts.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron, 43 down to 2.7? That is a retraction and even with that, as my links show, he still used faulty data…..

No, it's a clarification.... that for every bad guy shot in a home, 39.7 people killed themselves, .6 died in stupid accidents and 2.7 was a family member killing another family member.

NONE of those deaths would have happened if there was no gun in the home. Period.

 

[2aguy]

Except for the active shooter drills, security doors, militarized police, etc. that I have to pay for or deal with because it's only a matter of time before one of you goes nuts.

330 million people.

12 went nuts and shot people in mass public shootings in 2019

Total killed…73.

Deer killed 200….should we have deer catchers at all the school?

Lawn mowers killed between 90-100, shoild we ban lawn mowers?

Ladders killed 300…. Ban ladders?

Bathtubs killed 350….ban tubs and only allow shower stalls?

 

[2aguy]

No, it's a clarification.... that for every bad guy shot in a home, 39.7 people killed themselves, .6 died in stupid accidents and 2.7 was a family member killing another family member.

NONE of those deaths would have happened if there was no gun in the home. Period.

43 to 2.7 is not clarification you idiot, that is a complete disaster and embarrassement.

 

[2aguy]

No, it's a clarification.... that for every bad guy shot in a home, 39.7 people killed themselves, .6 died in stupid accidents and 2.7 was a family member killing another family member.

NONE of those deaths would have happened if there was no gun in the home. Period.

Moron criminals who murder family members will murder them without guns….knives, clubs, fire, barehands….you idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

330 million people.

12 went nuts and shot people in mass public shootings in 2019

Actually, we had 417 mass shootings in 2019.

If you are going to lie, at least lie effectively.

There were more mass shootings than days in 2019

365 days. 417 mass shootings.

www.cbsnews.com

43,000 gun deaths, 70,000 gun injuries.... your fetish is too expensive.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Except for the active shooter drills, security doors, militarized police, etc. that I have to pay for or deal with because it's only a matter of time before one of you goes nuts.

Me owning guns has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. Those things happen because people who AREN'T law abiding citizens are breaking the law. You have no right to trample on my rights because of what they do. Go after them and leave the rest of us alone.

 

[Abatis]

The reality- most Americans want tighter gun laws... and that number would probably be higher if most Americans realized how lax our gun laws are.

If the Constitution can be said to do one thing it is to frustrate and render impotent the ignorant, emotional whims of authoritarian leftists, whipped into a frenzy by statist demagogues, trying to act against our original, fully retained, fundamental rights.

Our rights are not subject to polling . . .

"The very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote they depend on the outcome of no elections."

West Virginia State Bd. of Ed. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 638 (1943)​

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[2aguy]

Actually, we had 417 mass shootings in 2019.

If you are going to lie, at least lie effectively.

There were more mass shootings than days in 2019

365 days. 417 mass shootings.

www.cbsnews.com

43,000 gun deaths, 70,000 gun injuries.... your fetish is too expensive.

No, you dont get to lie. Gang shootings are not the same as mass public shootings. One is specific to criminals shooting at other criminals, mass public shootings are lone events by individuals. Targeting unarmed victims in a public location…not the same in any way.

There were 12 mass public shootings in 2019, 2 in 2020.

 

[2aguy]

Actually, we had 417 mass shootings in 2019.

If you are going to lie, at least lie effectively.

There were more mass shootings than days in 2019

365 days. 417 mass shootings.

www.cbsnews.com

43,000 gun deaths, 70,000 gun injuries.... your fetish is too expensive.

The majority of those deaths are suicides and do not count…… but you have to dishonestly include them because the actual gun murder number was 10,258 in 1019….with the majority of the victims criminals 70-80% of the victims were criminals and of the rest the majority are friends, family and other associates of the crimjnals.

Completely different crimes and victim groups and you have to lie about them.

 

[2aguy]

No, it's a clarification.... that for every bad guy shot in a home, 39.7 people killed themselves, .6 died in stupid accidents and 2.7 was a family member killing another family member.

NONE of those deaths would have happened if there was no gun in the home. Period.

Are you this stupid? yes.....you are...

Aubrey Puli Padi, 46, let himself into her home and ‘lay in wait’, armed with knives, a hammer, gloves and a length of cord.

He ‘concealed himself’ in the house and set a 3.30am alarm so he could sleep and be assured his ex would be asleep to allow him to carry out the attack.

Estranged husband hid in house and murdered wife with child sleeping feet away

Aubrey Puli Padi has been jailed for 23 years for killing carer Tamara.

metro.co.uk

A suburban woman on the run from her estranged husband was attacked and murdered by him last night in Wisconsin, according to police.

38-year-old Christian Loga-Negru has been charged with murder and kidnapping and remains in jail on $1 million bond.

Arlington Heights police were aware of trouble at the home he shared with his estranged wife. They’ve been married for less than a year. Earlier this month his wife got a restraining order. Recently she’s been living in Mount Pleasant, Wisc at a friend’s to hide from her husband. But police say Loga-Negru found her and ambushed her at 8 p.m. Wednesday as she got out of a car.

Loga-Negru had checked into a local Super 8 Motel in Wisconsin Tuesday and police say he drove his injured wife there after attacking her with a hatchet. Someone there spotted the wounded woman bleeding from the head and called 911.

Arlington Heights woman struck, killed with hatchet in Wisconsin; Husband charged with murder

A suburban woman on the run from her estranged husband was attacked and murdered by him last night in Wisconsin, according to police. 38-year-old Christian Loga-Negru has been charged with murder a…

wgntv.com

A woman was stabbed to death inside her Santa Clarita home early Thursday, and authorities have taken her estranged husband into custody, officials with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said.

Husband stabs estranged wife to death in Santa Clarita home, authorities say

Before the woman died, she identified her assailant, sheriff's officials said. Authorities say James Dorsey drove from Washington to kill her.

www.latimes.com

British man is accused of murdering his wife by strangling her and stabbing her 11 times after they had sex in their Spanish home.

Brit 'had sex with wife before strangling her and stabbing her to death'

Prosecutors claim he had sex with his alleged victim with the 'obvious intention of ending her life after'.

metro.co.uk

An Iranian man has admitted murdering his wife after she had refused to support his application to remain in the UK.

Dana Abdullah used a kitchen knife to stab mother-of-four Avan Najmadeen at her home in Stoke-on-Trent in October.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u

k/crime/fenton-stabbing-stoke-husband-wife-immigration-court-case-trial-stafford-a8776636.html

 

[Hollie]

No, it's just proof how much the gun industry can manipulate the 3% of the population who are gun fetishists.

The reality- most Americans want tighter gun laws... and that number would probably be higher if most Americans realized how lax our gun laws are.

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The problem is dedication. Most sane people who don't own guns maybe pay attention for a day or two after some nut shoots up a pre-school or a movie theater, and they ask, "How was that nut able to get a gun?" The gun fetishists are on all the time....

Leftist extremists being easily manipulated is something you need to resolve. The anti-gun fetishists have this need to ignore those parts of the Constitution they object to. These are the same anti-gun fetishists who flail their Pom Poms for bail reform and allowance for violent criminals to roam the streets.

Gun sales boomed in 2020, with background checks hitting record highs as millions of people bought guns for the first time

The FBI said it processed a record 39.7 million firearm background checks in 2020, beating previous highs by more than 10 million.

www.businessinsider.com

Leftist extremists and anti-gun fetishists are a real boost for firearms sales as people find the need to protect themselves from the policies of Leftist extremists and the anti-gun fetishists.

 

[JoeB131]

Me owning guns has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. Those things happen because people who AREN'T law abiding citizens are breaking the law. You have no right to trample on my rights because of what they do. Go after them and leave the rest of us alone.

The rest of you are the problem... that's the thing.

If you had met Joker Holmes or Adam Lanza's mom before their shooting incidents, you'd have probably gotten along with them pretty well.

If the Constitution can be said to do one thing it is to frustrate and render impotent the ignorant, emotional whims of authoritarian leftists, whipped into a frenzy by statist demagogues, trying to act against our original, fully retained, fundamental rights.

Our rights are not subject to polling . . .

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Leftist extremists being easily manipulated is something you need to resolve. The anti-gun fetishists have this need to ignore those parts of the Constitution they object to. These are the same anti-gun fetishists who flail their Pom Poms for bail reform and allowance for violent criminals to roam the streets.

Again, I have no problem with the Second Amendment. I'm totally good with well-regulated militias. I was a member of one for years.

Weird interpretations of the Constitution, like Joker Holmes can have a Machine gun, that's a bit different.

 

[Abatis]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

You are the one arguing that the government has no fixed set of rules, that its powers respond to transitory, emotional demands of the majority, without any regard for the Constitution's express delineation of government power. That is the definition of a suicide pact.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The rest of you are the problem... that's the thing.

If you had met Joker Holmes or Adam Lanza's mom before their shooting incidents, you'd have probably gotten along with them pretty well.




The Constitution is not a suicide pact.



Again, I have no problem with the Second Amendment. I'm totally good with well-regulated militias. I was a member of one for years.

Weird interpretations of the Constitution, like Joker Holmes can have a Machine gun, that's a bit different.

No, the criminals are the problem, not law abiding citizens. Pro tip: go after people who are breaking the law, not the people who aren't.

It's illegal to do 120 mph on the interstate, but it isn't illegal sell cars that are capable of doing 120 mph. Hence, any regulation, or prohibition of automatic weapons is stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

You are the one arguing that the government has no fixed set of rules, that its powers respond to transitory, emotional demands of the majority, without any regard for the Constitution's express delineation of government power. That is the definition of a suicide pact.

Naw,man, that's the definition of democracy.

The problem with you gun fetishists is you think that an amendment about militias (largely obsolete now because militias have been replaced by professional armies and police forces) applies to letting every crazy person have a gun. And we all scratch our heads and wring our hands when someone goes into a school and shoots up four people like happened yesterday, but the fetishists start screaming about their "rights" and nothing gets done.

No, the criminals are the problem, not law abiding citizens. Pro tip: go after people who are breaking the law, not the people who aren't.

It's illegal to do 120 mph on the interstate, but it isn't illegal sell cars that are capable of doing 120 mph. Hence, any regulation, or prohibition of automatic weapons is stupid.

Most gun deaths are domestic violence - either suicides or people murdering their friends or family. It's gun proliferation that's the problem, not "criminals".

If you really want to make a comparison to cars, that's fine. Cars are regulated, insured, policed, and licensed.
If we let the NRA run cars, your morning commute would look like a cross between The Road Warrior and a Fast and Furious film.

 

[2aguy]

The rest of you are the problem... that's the thing.

If you had met Joker Holmes or Adam Lanza's mom before their shooting incidents, you'd have probably gotten along with them pretty well.




The Constitution is not a suicide pact.



Again, I have no problem with the Second Amendment. I'm totally good with well-regulated militias. I was a member of one for years.

Weird interpretations of the Constitution, like Joker Holmes can have a Machine gun, that's a bit different.

They didn't have machine guns.

 

[JoeB131]

They didn't have machine guns.

He had an AR-15 with a 100 round drum magazine....

Because that's what a well-regulated militia looks like... a guy who thinks he's the Joker with a Machine Gun.

 

[2aguy]

Naw,man, that's the definition of democracy.

The problem with you gun fetishists is you think that an amendment about militias (largely obsolete now because militias have been replaced by professional armies and police forces) applies to letting every crazy person have a gun. And we all scratch our heads and wring our hands when someone goes into a school and shoots up four people like happened yesterday, but the fetishists start screaming about their "rights" and nothing gets done.



Most gun deaths are domestic violence - either suicides or people murdering their friends or family. It's gun proliferation that's the problem, not "criminals".

If you really want to make a comparison to cars, that's fine. Cars are regulated, insured, policed, and licensed.
If we let the NRA run cars, your morning commute would look like a cross between The Road Warrior and a Fast and Furious film.

No....most domestic violence deaths are criminals, who should be in jail, murdering family members after they abuse drugs and alcohol...guys you want released from jail......

Cars are not a Right, guns are........

As more Americans owned and carried guns for 27 years, up to 2015.....the year the democrat party decided that attacking the police and releasing violent criminals were good ideas........gun murder went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%....this shows that guns do not cause gun crime...lots of guns do not cause gun crime.....

2015 forward showed that democrat party policies cause gun crime....attacking the police, and releasing the most violent criminals...or, in the case of the most recent gang shooting in Chicago...refusing to charge known gun criminals....causes gun crime.

Why do you vote for the party that keeps releasing violent gun criminals? You know, the political party created by the slave rapists you keep complaining about...but you vote for the very political party they created....?