Gun registration in California? They just signed a law giving gun owner information to outside parties..

[JoeB131]

he rest of the world has murdered hundreds of millions of people...in modern times......not the dark ages.......

More people were murdered in the six years between 1939-1945....12 million innocent men, women and children, than 82 years of criminals murdering criminals with guns in the United states...about 812,000.

Japan murdered 3 million innocent men, women and children, China 70 million, Russia 25 million..

Gunny you list all these things, and never mention the Genocide of Native Americans in the United States or slavery.

Okay, news flash. Human being treat eachother pretty shabbily, and when governments pander to the worst in us, there's not much you can do about it.

Idiots with guns are not going to prevent government from acting badly... Germans owned lots of guns before WWII. Not a one of them rushed out and stopped the Nazis from carting off their Jewish neighbors. It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

Having guns in this country didn't stop the government from carting off hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans, either. (Yes, yes, you'll point out that FDR ordered that, while ignoring that Republicans like Earl Warren were completely on board. You are so fucking predictable that we can anticipate your sad arguments.

Here's the thing. Most people won't go out there and put their neck out for anyone. Period. Full stop.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem is too many thieves. Work on criminal control and leave law abiding citizens alone.

Actually, most gun murders are domestic arguments that got out of hand, not theft.

Sorry you don't get that.

If all the police had to deal with is theft, we'd have a pretty easy life.

 

[2aguy]

Gunny you list all these things, and never mention the Genocide of Native Americans in the United States or slavery.

Okay, news flash. Human being treat eachother pretty shabbily, and when governments pander to the worst in us, there's not much you can do about it.

Idiots with guns are not going to prevent government from acting badly... Germans owned lots of guns before WWII. Not a one of them rushed out and stopped the Nazis from carting off their Jewish neighbors. It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

Having guns in this country didn't stop the government from carting off hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans, either. (Yes, yes, you'll point out that FDR ordered that, while ignoring that Republicans like Earl Warren were completely on board. You are so fucking predictable that we can anticipate your sad arguments.

Here's the thing. Most people won't go out there and put their neck out for anyone. Period. Full stop.

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There was no genocide against indians in this country....they died primarily of diseases they had no immunity for....you liar.

 

[2aguy]

Actually, most gun murders are domestic arguments that got out of hand, not theft.

Sorry you don't get that.

If all the police had to deal with is theft, we'd have a pretty easy life.

Moron....most gun murders are committed by criminals....with long histories of crime and violence committing murder.....of baby mommas, and relatives as well as other criminals...you liar.

The Criminology of Firearms
In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."

 

[2aguy]

Gunny you list all these things, and never mention the Genocide of Native Americans in the United States or slavery.

Okay, news flash. Human being treat eachother pretty shabbily, and when governments pander to the worst in us, there's not much you can do about it.

Idiots with guns are not going to prevent government from acting badly... Germans owned lots of guns before WWII. Not a one of them rushed out and stopped the Nazis from carting off their Jewish neighbors. It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

Having guns in this country didn't stop the government from carting off hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans, either. (Yes, yes, you'll point out that FDR ordered that, while ignoring that Republicans like Earl Warren were completely on board. You are so fucking predictable that we can anticipate your sad arguments.

Here's the thing. Most people won't go out there and put their neck out for anyone. Period. Full stop.

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The democrat party, the party you vote for, was created by slave owners...the slave rapists you constantly bring up...you vote for that party.....the democrat party was the party of slavery, started the Civil War to keep black human beings as slaves, enacted jim crow laws, started the klan, and to this day works to segregate our country by race......

That's on you...

 

[JoeB131]

There was no genocide against indians in this country....they died primarily of diseases they had no immunity for....you liar.

They died primarily because we took their land, crowded them on reservations, and sent the army out to kill them.

We hunted the Plains Buffalo to near extinction in order to deprive them of a food source.

Moron....most gun murders are committed by criminals....with long histories of crime and violence committing murder.....of baby mommas, and relatives as well as other criminals...you liar.

Again, most murders are committed by family or friends of the deceased. So let's make it harder for THOSE people to get guns. The problem is, of course, is you can't do that without also making it harder for gun fetishists to get guns....

The democrat party, the party you vote for, was created by slave owners...the slave rapists you constantly bring up...you vote for that party.....the democrat party was the party of slavery, started the Civil War to keep black human beings as slaves, enacted jim crow laws, started the klan, and to this day works to segregate our country by race......

We threw those people out in the 1960's... and Tricky Dick welcomed them with open arms.

 

[maybelooking]

Works for me.

what a POS.

 

[maybelooking]

Uh, guy, gun nuts aren't normal. The best argument for gun control is listening to you gun nuts rant about all the people you want to shoot.

The reality- Rest of the world limits gun ownership, and they don't have nearly the levels of murder, crime or other problems we have.

If you take out liberal run, anti gun inner cities your last statement is pure bullshit.

But you knew that.

 

[JoeB131]

If you take out liberal run, anti gun inner cities your last statement is pure bullshit.

But you knew that.

You mean the parts of the country where people actually live?

 

[maybelooking]

You mean the parts of the country where people actually live?

so its your contention that there are NO areas that are densely populated that are conservative run and have low violent crime rates?

of course you know there are. they are the areas liberals constantly claim (falsely) are providing the guns to the liberal run areas.

 

[JoeB131]

so its your contention that there are NO areas that are densely populated that are conservative run and have low violent crime rates?

of course you know there are. they are the areas liberals constantly claim (falsely) are providing the guns to the liberal run areas.

That's the point. The only reason why Republicans run anything is that we give big empty spaces representation for being big empty spaces...

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Actually, most gun murders are domestic arguments that got out of hand, not theft.

Sorry you don't get that.

If all the police had to deal with is theft, we'd have a pretty easy life.

I was referring to stolen guns, not murders. You want to talk about murders resulting from domestic arguments? To that, I say not enough women are armed.

 

[2aguy]

They died primarily because we took their land, crowded them on reservations, and sent the army out to kill them.

We hunted the Plains Buffalo to near extinction in order to deprive them of a food source.

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Again, most murders are committed by family or friends of the deceased. So let's make it harder for THOSE people to get guns. The problem is, of course, is you can't do that without also making it harder for gun fetishists to get guns....




We threw those people out in the 1960's... and Tricky Dick welcomed them with open arms.

Those people are already criminals, with long histories of crime and violence and are already banned from owning, carrying or buying guns....they still get them illegally...because they are criminals, often drug dealers and they need their guns to protect themselves from other criminals...

They are not normal people, living their normal lives.......

If we keep them locked up, they can't get guns.....but the political party you support, the democrat party, the party created by slave rapists.......keeps releasing known, violent gun offenders...that is the problem....you.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Uh, guy, gun nuts aren't normal. The best argument for gun control is listening to you gun nuts rant about all the people you want to shoot.

You seem to be, as usual, projecting. The only one posting murder fantasies here is YOU, Joey!

 

[JoeB131]

I was referring to stolen guns, not murders. You want to talk about murders resulting from domestic arguments? To that, I say not enough women are armed.

Uh, yeah, women shooting their husbands more often wouldn't be a good thing. It's that time of the month, bang, bang.

Those people are already criminals, with long histories of crime and violence and are already banned from owning, carrying or buying guns....they still get them illegally...because they are criminals, often drug dealers and they need their guns to protect themselves from other criminals...

Blah, blah, most gun murders are domestic violence, and all gun suicides are.

So we ban guns, then we only have to concertrate on the criminal gun use, that's a manageable number

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Uh, yeah, women shooting their husbands more often wouldn't be a good thing. It's that time of the month, bang, bang.



Blah, blah, most gun murders are domestic violence, and all gun suicides are.

So we ban guns, then we only have to concertrate on the criminal gun use, that's a manageable number

Are you saying women are too unstable to own guns?

 

[JoeB131]

Are you saying women are too unstable to own guns?

I'm saying nobody is terribly stable during a domestic argument.

Adding more guns into that mix would be a bad thing.

 

[2aguy]

Uh, yeah, women shooting their husbands more often wouldn't be a good thing. It's that time of the month, bang, bang.



Blah, blah, most gun murders are domestic violence, and all gun suicides are.

So we ban guns, then we only have to concertrate on the criminal gun use, that's a manageable number

The people doing the shooting of their baby mommas are already felons, unable to buy, own or carry guns.........and the morons doing the research include drug dealers murdering drug buyers in their home as "domestic" shootings...you doofus.

 

[2aguy]

I'm saying nobody is terribly stable during a domestic argument.

Adding more guns into that mix would be a bad thing.

Except that doesn't happen...the ones doing the shooting have long histories of violence and crime and most of them are already banned from owning guns......you moron.

 

[JoeB131]

The people doing the shooting of their baby mommas are already felons, unable to buy, own or carry guns.........and the morons doing the research include drug dealers murdering drug buyers in their home as "domestic" shootings...you doofus.

Um, yeah, drug dealers shooting drug buyers in their home doesn't sound like a very good business practice... just saying.

The reality- when more people got locked up in their homes in 2020, the murder rate went up... this isn't a big surprise.