Green Cars? The Joke's On You!

[PoliticalChic]

Your large font is irritating. It takes too long to scroll past.

Says the retard who didn't bother reading it. And who apparently is too stupid to use the slider on the right side of his screen to move down the page with lightening speed.

These people are the most miserable fucks on the planet. They fall all over themseves, for years now, telling people about the "consensus" and they have yet to budge the goalposts a single inch.




L O S E

1. If I may add, these are the 'low information voters" who fail to see the tentacles of the global governance folks hiding behind this failed 'science..'


a. The Climategate revelations showed scientific leaders of the UN’s IPCC and global warming alarmist movement plotting to falsify climate data and exclude those raising doubts …


2. The Left, child-like in beliefs that motivate every totalitarian regime, has decided that human beings, seeming to resist said changes, are the enemy. “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, the use of fossil fuels, electrical appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, opening speech at the 1992 UN Rio Earth Summit

a.” Maurice Strong is an admitted socialist. His sister was a Marxist. He thinks you and yours have eaten too much, used too much and now must pay. Of course like every elite socialist, that just means you, not him, or his fellow elitist.” Maurice Strong- Man Behind Agenda 21 ? Part 2 | Soldier For Liberty

 

[editec]

All Electric cars won't make environmental sense until we find a green way to create enough energy to move them down the road.

Some thing goes with hydrogen cars.

 

[ima]

Fueling???
Recharging???
Here's some news:
1. An electric car requires an array of battery cells, almost 500 pounds worth. http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/documents/Battery-and-Electric-Vehicle-Report-FINAL.pdf
a. GM’s EV1 NiMH (nickel metal hydride) weighed in at 1,150-1,400 pounds. Nickel Metal Hydride | GREENDUMP and Berezow, Op.Cit., p. 99.
b. The Chevy Volt has a lithium-ion battery that weights in at 435 pounds. GM press release: CHEVROLET VOLT’S REVOLUTIONARY VOLTEC ELECTRIC DRIVE SYSTEM DELIVERS EFFICIENCY WITH PERFORMANCE
2. The batteries are expensive, listed at $3,000-$4,000. Prius hybrid owners have been quoted at $7,000 and up. Behind the Hidden Costs of Hybrids - HybridCars.com
a. It is unclear what replacement cost will be when labor is included.
3. Since the battery’s ability to recharge declines with use, it must be replaced at about 100,000 miles. And the nickel metal hydride leaks energy- about 20 percent of capacity within the first 24 hours.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/Nickel_based_batteriesbnn
4. The batteries pose a dramatic detrimental effect on the environment due to polytetrafluoroethylene binder and nickel foam materials. Life cycle environmental assessme... preview & related info | Mendeley
5. Basically, electric vehicles are dragging a lot of extra weight made of toxic materials in order to use stored energy that combustion vehicles can simply generate on the go. Berezow, Op. Cit., p.66.
"And the EV's are not only here to stay, but they will give the homeowner the independence of fueling his own vehicle with solar."

Really?
How's yours workin' out?
What???
You didn't get one???
I get it...waitin' for the other simpletons to get 'em.....
Better not buy a used one: replacing those batteries is a bankruptcy waiting to happen.....
But...."the homeowner the independence of fueling his own vehicle with solar."
Sure.

Polchic, you sure are a dumbass and aren't afraid to show it. Sure electric cars aren't perfect these days, but the research... is going in the right direction. Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels and will need other ways to get around. Electric vehicles, possibly recharged by the sun in the future, are an excellent goal for ceasing to use oil. Sure, electricity is made with fossil fuels in a lot of places, but a lot of places have hydro-electricity already, and the prospect of refuelling your car with solar power is very cool.

PS do you think that maybe if you got laid properly that you wouldn't be so ornery all the time?

Seems to be a rule: if you have no point, no brains.....resort to the vulgar.
So.....
....how many electric cars do you own?
Now, take a lesson here. This is the way a scholar does it.
I'm gonna roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar:

"Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels"

1. The Leftist elites in Washington have artificially restricted American energy resources, from a 25-year ban on offshore drilling to a de facto ban on nuclear energy. The energy crisis created by environmental extremists, politicians, and bureaucrats who, for ideological reasons, favor high energy prices and severely limited energy consumption. And the cost of this policy is foreign imports, loss of American jobs, and American reliance on foreign dictatorships.


2. There is every reason to believe that we have far more energy reserves than the government estimates.

a. The 2008 USGS assessment estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil in the U.S. portion of the Bakken Formation, elevating it to a “world-class” accumulation. The estimate had a mean value of 3.65 billion barrels. The USGS routinely conducts updates to oil and gas assessments when significant new information is available, such as new understanding of a resource basin’s geology or when advances in technology occur for drilling and production…. The 2008 USGS assessment showed a 25-fold increase in the amount of technically recoverable oil as compared to the agency's 1995 estimate of 151 million barrels of oil.
Bakken Formation Oil Assessment in North Dakota, Montana will be updated by U.S. Geological Survey

b. Oil giant BP says it has made a "giant" new oil discovery in its fields in the Gulf of Mexico…. BP said the discovery, amounting to more than three billion barrels, would "support the continuing growth of our deepwater Gulf of Mexico business into the second half of the next decade".
BBC NEWS | Business | BP in 'giant' new oil discovery

c. According to the US Geological Survey, the Arctic sea floor has 13% of the world's undiscovered "conventional" oil reserves and 30% of undiscovered natural-gas reserves.
Oil-Drilling Trade-Offs: Keystone for Alaska

d. The Marcellus Shale [Pennsylvania, Oho, New York] could be one of the USA's most promising natural gas ...that the Marcellus might contain more than 500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. ...
Marcellus Shale Gas: New Research Results Surprise Geologists!

Too bad that you're too ignorant to see past the end of your nose, though long it may be. Powering cars with solar will decrease the cost of gas for you gas users since the demand will be a lot less. Ever think of that? No? Not surprised.
Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas? You seem liked you'd prefer to pay for gas.

I have zero electric cars because it's still not cost effective, or wasn't when I bought my last car about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's getting better, and I'll seriously look at the options when the time comes in a few more years, when things might even be better than they are now. But I need a 4X4 as I live in the mountains with lots of snow, so we'll see if Jeep does anything in the next few years.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Polchic, you sure are a dumbass and aren't afraid to show it. Sure electric cars aren't perfect these days, but the research... is going in the right direction. Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels and will need other ways to get around. Electric vehicles, possibly recharged by the sun in the future, are an excellent goal for ceasing to use oil. Sure, electricity is made with fossil fuels in a lot of places, but a lot of places have hydro-electricity already, and the prospect of refuelling your car with solar power is very cool.

PS do you think that maybe if you got laid properly that you wouldn't be so ornery all the time?

Seems to be a rule: if you have no point, no brains.....resort to the vulgar.
So.....
....how many electric cars do you own?
Now, take a lesson here. This is the way a scholar does it.
I'm gonna roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar:

"Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels"

1. The Leftist elites in Washington have artificially restricted American energy resources, from a 25-year ban on offshore drilling to a de facto ban on nuclear energy. The energy crisis created by environmental extremists, politicians, and bureaucrats who, for ideological reasons, favor high energy prices and severely limited energy consumption. And the cost of this policy is foreign imports, loss of American jobs, and American reliance on foreign dictatorships.


2. There is every reason to believe that we have far more energy reserves than the government estimates.

a. The 2008 USGS assessment estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil in the U.S. portion of the Bakken Formation, elevating it to a “world-class” accumulation. The estimate had a mean value of 3.65 billion barrels. The USGS routinely conducts updates to oil and gas assessments when significant new information is available, such as new understanding of a resource basin’s geology or when advances in technology occur for drilling and production…. The 2008 USGS assessment showed a 25-fold increase in the amount of technically recoverable oil as compared to the agency's 1995 estimate of 151 million barrels of oil.
Bakken Formation Oil Assessment in North Dakota, Montana will be updated by U.S. Geological Survey

b. Oil giant BP says it has made a "giant" new oil discovery in its fields in the Gulf of Mexico…. BP said the discovery, amounting to more than three billion barrels, would "support the continuing growth of our deepwater Gulf of Mexico business into the second half of the next decade".
BBC NEWS | Business | BP in 'giant' new oil discovery

c. According to the US Geological Survey, the Arctic sea floor has 13% of the world's undiscovered "conventional" oil reserves and 30% of undiscovered natural-gas reserves.
Oil-Drilling Trade-Offs: Keystone for Alaska

d. The Marcellus Shale [Pennsylvania, Oho, New York] could be one of the USA's most promising natural gas ...that the Marcellus might contain more than 500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. ...
Marcellus Shale Gas: New Research Results Surprise Geologists!

Too bad that you're too ignorant to see past the end of your nose, though long it may be. Powering cars with solar will decrease the cost of gas for you gas users since the demand will be a lot less. Ever think of that? No? Not surprised.
Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas? You seem liked you'd prefer to pay for gas.

I have zero electric cars because it's still not cost effective, or wasn't when I bought my last car about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's getting better, and I'll seriously look at the options when the time comes in a few more years, when things might even be better than they are now. But I need a 4X4 as I live in the mountains with lots of snow, so we'll see if Jeep does anything in the next few years.

1. And in you post is the typical feeling-passes-for-knowing of the 'reliable Democrat voter.'

2. "Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas?"
And, in the next several centuries....this is a reality?

If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts,
We'd all have a Merry Christmas.

3. "I have zero electric cars...."
Case closed.


4. "But I need a 4X4...."
Good thing you have that 4 x4, 'cause you're so dumb you can only hitchhike in one direction.

 

[ima]

Seems to be a rule: if you have no point, no brains.....resort to the vulgar.
So.....
....how many electric cars do you own?
Now, take a lesson here. This is the way a scholar does it.
I'm gonna roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar:

"Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels"

1. The Leftist elites in Washington have artificially restricted American energy resources, from a 25-year ban on offshore drilling to a de facto ban on nuclear energy. The energy crisis created by environmental extremists, politicians, and bureaucrats who, for ideological reasons, favor high energy prices and severely limited energy consumption. And the cost of this policy is foreign imports, loss of American jobs, and American reliance on foreign dictatorships.


2. There is every reason to believe that we have far more energy reserves than the government estimates.

a. The 2008 USGS assessment estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil in the U.S. portion of the Bakken Formation, elevating it to a “world-class” accumulation. The estimate had a mean value of 3.65 billion barrels. The USGS routinely conducts updates to oil and gas assessments when significant new information is available, such as new understanding of a resource basin’s geology or when advances in technology occur for drilling and production…. The 2008 USGS assessment showed a 25-fold increase in the amount of technically recoverable oil as compared to the agency's 1995 estimate of 151 million barrels of oil.
Bakken Formation Oil Assessment in North Dakota, Montana will be updated by U.S. Geological Survey

b. Oil giant BP says it has made a "giant" new oil discovery in its fields in the Gulf of Mexico…. BP said the discovery, amounting to more than three billion barrels, would "support the continuing growth of our deepwater Gulf of Mexico business into the second half of the next decade".
BBC NEWS | Business | BP in 'giant' new oil discovery

c. According to the US Geological Survey, the Arctic sea floor has 13% of the world's undiscovered "conventional" oil reserves and 30% of undiscovered natural-gas reserves.
Oil-Drilling Trade-Offs: Keystone for Alaska

d. The Marcellus Shale [Pennsylvania, Oho, New York] could be one of the USA's most promising natural gas ...that the Marcellus might contain more than 500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. ...
Marcellus Shale Gas: New Research Results Surprise Geologists!

Too bad that you're too ignorant to see past the end of your nose, though long it may be. Powering cars with solar will decrease the cost of gas for you gas users since the demand will be a lot less. Ever think of that? No? Not surprised.
Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas? You seem liked you'd prefer to pay for gas.

I have zero electric cars because it's still not cost effective, or wasn't when I bought my last car about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's getting better, and I'll seriously look at the options when the time comes in a few more years, when things might even be better than they are now. But I need a 4X4 as I live in the mountains with lots of snow, so we'll see if Jeep does anything in the next few years.

1. And in you post is the typical feeling-passes-for-knowing of the 'reliable Democrat voter.'

2. "Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas?"
And, in the next several centuries....this is a reality?

If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts,
We'd all have a Merry Christmas.

3. "I have zero electric cars...."
Case closed.

4. "But I need a 4X4...."
Good thing you have that 4 x4, 'cause you're so dumb you can only hitchhike in one direction.

Houses are already powered by solar panels. When you plug your car into your house, it's powered by the panels. So it's not 2 centuries away, it's already happening. And it'll just grow. And I'll be looking at electric cars for my next purchase. But by all means, stay ignorant if it makes you happy.

I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever. Please try again soon.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Too bad that you're too ignorant to see past the end of your nose, though long it may be. Powering cars with solar will decrease the cost of gas for you gas users since the demand will be a lot less. Ever think of that? No? Not surprised.
Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas? You seem liked you'd prefer to pay for gas.

I have zero electric cars because it's still not cost effective, or wasn't when I bought my last car about 4 or 5 years ago. Now it's getting better, and I'll seriously look at the options when the time comes in a few more years, when things might even be better than they are now. But I need a 4X4 as I live in the mountains with lots of snow, so we'll see if Jeep does anything in the next few years.

1. And in you post is the typical feeling-passes-for-knowing of the 'reliable Democrat voter.'

2. "Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas?"
And, in the next several centuries....this is a reality?

If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts,
We'd all have a Merry Christmas.

3. "I have zero electric cars...."
Case closed.

4. "But I need a 4X4...."
Good thing you have that 4 x4, 'cause you're so dumb you can only hitchhike in one direction.

Houses are already powered by solar panels. When you plug your car into your house, it's powered by the panels. So it's not 2 centuries away, it's already happening. And it'll just grow. And I'll be looking at electric cars for my next purchase. But by all means, stay ignorant if it makes you happy.

I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever. Please try again soon.

1. "I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever."
Is that because of your looks?
Rumor has it you are hired by pharmacies to stand in front just to make people sick.



" Please try again soon."
Comin' right up!

2. Our future is in ‘green energy’? “Presidents all the way back to Richard Nixon -- whose "Project Independence" promised to make America independent from foreign oil by 1980 -- were thwarted by short attention spans, other urgent problems and gyrations in the energy market.” After some 30 years and billions of dollars poured into alternative technologies, renewable energy now accounts for a mere 6.7% of our total.
A Past President's Advice to Obama: Act With Haste - WSJ.com

Based on US Department of Energy, sources of energy used in the US:
39.2% petroleum, 23.3% natural gas, 22.4% coal, 8.3% nuclear, 3.6% biomass, 2.4% hydroelectric, 0.35% geothermal, 0.31% wind, 0.08% solar.



3. Green math: solar panels to save 50% on your electric bills? Well, if the average electric bill is about $100/mos, the savings is $600/ year! But solar costs 30-40 K, so it takes about 58 years to start saving money. But…solar panels are projected to last 20-30 years. So, savings? Not so much.

Solar energy is mainly used to heat swimming pools.



I can save you a great deal of time in your posts….whatever anyone posts, just type “Oh, yeah…That’s what you think!”
Covers just about all of your posts.

 

[ima]

1. And in you post is the typical feeling-passes-for-knowing of the 'reliable Democrat voter.'

2. "Question: would you rather power your car with free sunshine, or pay for gas?"
And, in the next several centuries....this is a reality?

If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts,
We'd all have a Merry Christmas.

3. "I have zero electric cars...."
Case closed.

4. "But I need a 4X4...."
Good thing you have that 4 x4, 'cause you're so dumb you can only hitchhike in one direction.

Houses are already powered by solar panels. When you plug your car into your house, it's powered by the panels. So it's not 2 centuries away, it's already happening. And it'll just grow. And I'll be looking at electric cars for my next purchase. But by all means, stay ignorant if it makes you happy.

I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever. Please try again soon.

1. "I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever."
Is that because of your looks?
Rumor has it you are hired by pharmacies to stand in front just to make people sick.



" Please try again soon."
Comin' right up!

2. Our future is in ‘green energy’? “Presidents all the way back to Richard Nixon -- whose "Project Independence" promised to make America independent from foreign oil by 1980 -- were thwarted by short attention spans, other urgent problems and gyrations in the energy market.” After some 30 years and billions of dollars poured into alternative technologies, renewable energy now accounts for a mere 6.7% of our total.
A Past President's Advice to Obama: Act With Haste - WSJ.com
Based on US Department of Energy, sources of energy used in the US:
39.2% petroleum, 23.3% natural gas, 22.4% coal, 8.3% nuclear, 3.6% biomass, 2.4% hydroelectric, 0.35% geothermal, 0.31% wind, 0.08% solar.
3. Green math: solar panels to save 50% on your electric bills? Well, if the average electric bill is about $100/mos, the savings is $600/ year! But solar costs 30-40 K, so it takes about 58 years to start saving money. But…solar panels are projected to last 20-30 years. So, savings? Not so much.
Solar energy is mainly used to heat swimming pools.
I can save you a great deal of time in your posts….whatever anyone posts, just type “Oh, yeah…That’s what you think!”
Covers just about all of your posts.

The cost of solar is coming down, some houses even return electricity to the grid and make money. My average bill is around $200/month (electric heating in winter along with wood). Add in the amount I pay for gas that I wouldn't pay anymore, and that I already heat my pool with solar. It starts to add up. You're just too old to bother, there's enough oil left to satisfy your grumpy life, but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

You're living in the past and prefer to quote Nixon. 'nuff said.

 

[PoliticalChic]

but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

Houses are already powered by solar panels. When you plug your car into your house, it's powered by the panels. So it's not 2 centuries away, it's already happening. And it'll just grow. And I'll be looking at electric cars for my next purchase. But by all means, stay ignorant if it makes you happy.

I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever. Please try again soon.

1. "I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever."
Is that because of your looks?
Rumor has it you are hired by pharmacies to stand in front just to make people sick.



" Please try again soon."
Comin' right up!

2. Our future is in ‘green energy’? “Presidents all the way back to Richard Nixon -- whose "Project Independence" promised to make America independent from foreign oil by 1980 -- were thwarted by short attention spans, other urgent problems and gyrations in the energy market.” After some 30 years and billions of dollars poured into alternative technologies, renewable energy now accounts for a mere 6.7% of our total.
A Past President's Advice to Obama: Act With Haste - WSJ.com
Based on US Department of Energy, sources of energy used in the US:
39.2% petroleum, 23.3% natural gas, 22.4% coal, 8.3% nuclear, 3.6% biomass, 2.4% hydroelectric, 0.35% geothermal, 0.31% wind, 0.08% solar.
3. Green math: solar panels to save 50% on your electric bills? Well, if the average electric bill is about $100/mos, the savings is $600/ year! But solar costs 30-40 K, so it takes about 58 years to start saving money. But…solar panels are projected to last 20-30 years. So, savings? Not so much.
Solar energy is mainly used to heat swimming pools.
I can save you a great deal of time in your posts….whatever anyone posts, just type “Oh, yeah…That’s what you think!”
Covers just about all of your posts.

The cost of solar is coming down, some houses even return electricity to the grid and make money. My average bill is around $200/month (electric heating in winter along with wood). Add in the amount I pay for gas that I wouldn't pay anymore, and that I already heat my pool with solar. It starts to add up. You're just too old to bother, there's enough oil left to satisfy your grumpy life, but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

You're living in the past and prefer to quote Nixon. 'nuff said.

"... but some of us think about their children and grankids (sic)... and have hope for the future."


Hey...hey....hey!!!

Let's stick to protocol here!!!


You know very well that you have no right to use that fifth word in the sentence I've quoted!!!
At your level in the food chain you're relegated to instincts!


April's coming....here's a reminder:
When you fill out your tax returns, under ‘occupation,’ be sure to write “Jay Leno punch line.”
Now, behave yourself!

 

[ima]

but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

1. "I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever."
Is that because of your looks?
Rumor has it you are hired by pharmacies to stand in front just to make people sick.



" Please try again soon."
Comin' right up!

2. Our future is in ‘green energy’? “Presidents all the way back to Richard Nixon -- whose "Project Independence" promised to make America independent from foreign oil by 1980 -- were thwarted by short attention spans, other urgent problems and gyrations in the energy market.” After some 30 years and billions of dollars poured into alternative technologies, renewable energy now accounts for a mere 6.7% of our total.
A Past President's Advice to Obama: Act With Haste - WSJ.com
Based on US Department of Energy, sources of energy used in the US:
39.2% petroleum, 23.3% natural gas, 22.4% coal, 8.3% nuclear, 3.6% biomass, 2.4% hydroelectric, 0.35% geothermal, 0.31% wind, 0.08% solar.
3. Green math: solar panels to save 50% on your electric bills? Well, if the average electric bill is about $100/mos, the savings is $600/ year! But solar costs 30-40 K, so it takes about 58 years to start saving money. But…solar panels are projected to last 20-30 years. So, savings? Not so much.
Solar energy is mainly used to heat swimming pools.
I can save you a great deal of time in your posts….whatever anyone posts, just type “Oh, yeah…That’s what you think!”
Covers just about all of your posts.

The cost of solar is coming down, some houses even return electricity to the grid and make money. My average bill is around $200/month (electric heating in winter along with wood). Add in the amount I pay for gas that I wouldn't pay anymore, and that I already heat my pool with solar. It starts to add up. You're just too old to bother, there's enough oil left to satisfy your grumpy life, but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

You're living in the past and prefer to quote Nixon. 'nuff said.

"... but some of us think about their children and grankids (sic)... and have hope for the future."


Hey...hey....hey!!!

Let's stick to protocol here!!!


You know very well that you have no right to use that fifth word in the sentence I've quoted!!!
At your level in the food chain you're relegated to instincts!


April's coming....here's a reminder:
When you fill out your tax returns, under ‘occupation,’ be sure to write “Jay Leno punch line.”
Now, behave yourself!

Your failed attempt at humour didn't actually cover up the fact that you had no real response to what I said, is it because you know I'm right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

The cost of solar is coming down, some houses even return electricity to the grid and make money. My average bill is around $200/month (electric heating in winter along with wood). Add in the amount I pay for gas that I wouldn't pay anymore, and that I already heat my pool with solar. It starts to add up. You're just too old to bother, there's enough oil left to satisfy your grumpy life, but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

You're living in the past and prefer to quote Nixon. 'nuff said.

"... but some of us think about their children and grankids (sic)... and have hope for the future."


Hey...hey....hey!!!

Let's stick to protocol here!!!


You know very well that you have no right to use that fifth word in the sentence I've quoted!!!
At your level in the food chain you're relegated to instincts!


April's coming....here's a reminder:
When you fill out your tax returns, under ‘occupation,’ be sure to write “Jay Leno punch line.”
Now, behave yourself!

Your failed attempt at humour didn't actually cover up the fact that you had no real response to what I said, is it because you know I'm right?

Why call it humor....I was being helpful.


OK...listen, dunce....any reduction in the cost of solar is because of government subsidies.



1. “The US Energy Information Administration estimates the subsidy cost of wind runs at $23.50 [dollars per actual megawatt-hour] and Natural gas and petroleum, 25 cents. Coal, 44 cents. “Clean” coal, refined to environmentalis’ standards, $29.81.” Nickson, “Eco-Fascists,” p.123.
“…Mr. Obama’s green jobs will have cost [by the end of 2011] the public purse more than $5 million each.” Ibid.



Solar: solar burns through a bit more at $26.00 per

Natural gas and petroleum, 25 cents. Coal, 44 cents. “Clean” coal per



Ready for the pop quiz?



Which costs 104 times more....solar or Natural gas ?

Take your time....




"... the fact that you had no real response to what I said, is it because you know I'm right?"
Now do you see why I said you're the punchline of a joke??



With your skills, you could get a job as a seeing-eye person for a blind dog.

Was that better?

 

[Desperado]

Then why don't we see them racing at Le Mans?

Because people go to Le Mans to see cars race on the track.... not to see cars charge their batteries in the pits. What a clusterfuck that would be it they only allowed electric cars at Le Mans.

 

[ima]

but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

"... but some of us think about their children and grankids (sic)... and have hope for the future."
Hey...hey....hey!!!
Let's stick to protocol here!!!
You know very well that you have no right to use that fifth word in the sentence I've quoted!!!
At your level in the food chain you're relegated to instincts!
April's coming....here's a reminder:
When you fill out your tax returns, under ‘occupation,’ be sure to write “Jay Leno punch line.”
Now, behave yourself!

Your failed attempt at humour didn't actually cover up the fact that you had no real response to what I said, is it because you know I'm right?

Why call it humor....I was being helpful.
OK...listen, dunce....any reduction in the cost of solar is because of government subsidies.
1. “The US Energy Information Administration estimates the subsidy cost of wind runs at $23.50 [dollars per actual megawatt-hour] and Natural gas and petroleum, 25 cents. Coal, 44 cents. “Clean” coal, refined to environmentalis’ standards, $29.81.” Nickson, “Eco-Fascists,” p.123.
“…Mr. Obama’s green jobs will have cost [by the end of 2011] the public purse more than $5 million each.” Ibid.
Solar: solar burns through a bit more at $26.00 per
Natural gas and petroleum, 25 cents. Coal, 44 cents. “Clean” coal per
Ready for the pop quiz?
Which costs 104 times more....solar or Natural gas ?
Take your time....
"... the fact that you had no real response to what I said, is it because you know I'm right?"
Now do you see why I said you're the punchline of a joke??
With your skills, you could get a job as a seeing-eye person for a blind dog.
Was that better?

What costs more to run, a gas car or an electric car powered by the sun? And fyi, the oil and gas industry and the gas car industries get subsidies too, did ya know?
Question 2: What costs more to run: a house powered by solar power or a house powered by coal generated electricity? The coal industry gets subsidies too, did ya know?
Question 3: what's going to run out last, oil, gas, your fartgas or sunshine?

 

[skookerasbil]

Houses are already powered by solar panels. When you plug your car into your house, it's powered by the panels. So it's not 2 centuries away, it's already happening. And it'll just grow. And I'll be looking at electric cars for my next purchase. But by all means, stay ignorant if it makes you happy.

I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever. Please try again soon.

1. "I've never hitchhiked in my life. Ever."
Is that because of your looks?
Rumor has it you are hired by pharmacies to stand in front just to make people sick.



" Please try again soon."
Comin' right up!

2. Our future is in ‘green energy’? “Presidents all the way back to Richard Nixon -- whose "Project Independence" promised to make America independent from foreign oil by 1980 -- were thwarted by short attention spans, other urgent problems and gyrations in the energy market.” After some 30 years and billions of dollars poured into alternative technologies, renewable energy now accounts for a mere 6.7% of our total.
A Past President's Advice to Obama: Act With Haste - WSJ.com
Based on US Department of Energy, sources of energy used in the US:
39.2% petroleum, 23.3% natural gas, 22.4% coal, 8.3% nuclear, 3.6% biomass, 2.4% hydroelectric, 0.35% geothermal, 0.31% wind, 0.08% solar.
3. Green math: solar panels to save 50% on your electric bills? Well, if the average electric bill is about $100/mos, the savings is $600/ year! But solar costs 30-40 K, so it takes about 58 years to start saving money. But…solar panels are projected to last 20-30 years. So, savings? Not so much.
Solar energy is mainly used to heat swimming pools.
I can save you a great deal of time in your posts….whatever anyone posts, just type “Oh, yeah…That’s what you think!”
Covers just about all of your posts.

The cost of solar is coming down, some houses even return electricity to the grid and make money. My average bill is around $200/month (electric heating in winter along with wood). Add in the amount I pay for gas that I wouldn't pay anymore, and that I already heat my pool with solar. It starts to add up. You're just too old to bother, there's enough oil left to satisfy your grumpy life, but some of us think about their children and grankids... and have hope for the future.

You're living in the past and prefer to quote Nixon. 'nuff said.

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[westwall]

My mom fills up 1 time per month though commuting every day to work. It's insane. That joke's on the gas companies.

Then why don't we see them racing at Le Mans? You guys post cute little videos of them doing little 1/4 mile runs but nothing at all about endurance racing...why is that? Maybe because the weight of batteries converted into fuel will supply 14 conventional cars for the duration of the race.

You call THAT efficient?

Um because a car that races at Le Mans would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars? That's stupid.

Wow, you really are stupid aren't you. What the fuck do you think the Tesla Roadster costs dipshit.

 

[westwall]

And the EV's are not only here to stay, but they will give the homeowner the independence of fueling his own vehicle with solar.

Fueling???
Recharging???
Here's some news:
1. An electric car requires an array of battery cells, almost 500 pounds worth. http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/documents/Battery-and-Electric-Vehicle-Report-FINAL.pdf
a. GM’s EV1 NiMH (nickel metal hydride) weighed in at 1,150-1,400 pounds. Nickel Metal Hydride | GREENDUMP and Berezow, Op.Cit., p. 99.
b. The Chevy Volt has a lithium-ion battery that weights in at 435 pounds. GM press release: CHEVROLET VOLT’S REVOLUTIONARY VOLTEC ELECTRIC DRIVE SYSTEM DELIVERS EFFICIENCY WITH PERFORMANCE
2. The batteries are expensive, listed at $3,000-$4,000. Prius hybrid owners have been quoted at $7,000 and up. Behind the Hidden Costs of Hybrids - HybridCars.com
a. It is unclear what replacement cost will be when labor is included.
3. Since the battery’s ability to recharge declines with use, it must be replaced at about 100,000 miles. And the nickel metal hydride leaks energy- about 20 percent of capacity within the first 24 hours.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/Nickel_based_batteriesbnn
4. The batteries pose a dramatic detrimental effect on the environment due to polytetrafluoroethylene binder and nickel foam materials. Life cycle environmental assessme... preview & related info | Mendeley
5. Basically, electric vehicles are dragging a lot of extra weight made of toxic materials in order to use stored energy that combustion vehicles can simply generate on the go. Berezow, Op. Cit., p.66.
"And the EV's are not only here to stay, but they will give the homeowner the independence of fueling his own vehicle with solar."

Really?
How's yours workin' out?
What???
You didn't get one???
I get it...waitin' for the other simpletons to get 'em.....
Better not buy a used one: replacing those batteries is a bankruptcy waiting to happen.....
But...."the homeowner the independence of fueling his own vehicle with solar."
Sure.

Polchic, you sure are a dumbass and aren't afraid to show it. Sure electric cars aren't perfect these days, but the research... is going in the right direction. Sooner or later on this planet, we'll run out of fossil fuels and will need other ways to get around. Electric vehicles, possibly recharged by the sun in the future, are an excellent goal for ceasing to use oil. Sure, electricity is made with fossil fuels in a lot of places, but a lot of places have hydro-electricity already, and the prospect of refuelling your car with solar power is very cool.

PS do you think that maybe if you got laid properly that you wouldn't be so ornery all the time?

The dumbass is you moron. EV's have the same range now that they had 100 years ago. You call that progress?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Then why don't we see them racing at Le Mans? You guys post cute little videos of them doing little 1/4 mile runs but nothing at all about endurance racing...why is that? Maybe because the weight of batteries converted into fuel will supply 14 conventional cars for the duration of the race.

You call THAT efficient?

Um because a car that races at Le Mans would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars? That's stupid.

Wow, you really are stupid aren't you. What the fuck do you think the Tesla Roadster costs dipshit.

Wtf you're comparing Tesla and F1 cars to my Mom's Honda. Way to go smartass