GOP Senator..."tough shit" for the unemployed

[RetiredGySgt]

The issue is that he doesn't want it to be added to the deficiet, he wants it to be paid for by the stimulus money.

If you have a big new expense, do you think it's better to pay for it now, or add it to your credit card?

Don't confuse them, they were all HOWLING about how the war was off budget but this? That is just fine.

Tell why you didn't want to pay for the war. Tell why that was okay.

Who says I supported not paying for the war? I had no problem with it being part of the Budget. YOU on the other hand howled like a stuck pig, ow explain why you are not HOWLING about this one?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Exactly HOW long should the US Government pay for people that are not working?

As long as we can afford to defend Europe, South Korea, and Japan for free.

We are not defending them dumb ass. ANYONE that thinks isolationism works in todays world needs to be admitted to a psych ward. Ohh and I thought only Libertarians whined about Isolationism?

 

[uscitizen]

I still can't believe that the righties are defending that dumbass Bunning.

Party first!

works both ways US....i cant believe the Lefties havent asked the skank to step down as Speaker....

I have voted against Bunning every time I could.
I am not allowed to vote against Reid.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I still can't believe that the righties are defending that dumbass Bunning.

Party first!

works both ways US....i cant believe the Lefties havent asked the skank to step down as Speaker....

I have voted against Bunning every time I could.
I am not allowed to vote against Reid.

Reid?.....well he is a skank too....but i mean Pelosi,the Speaker....that is the genuine Skank...

 

[Rinata]

Domestic terrorism by anti American SCUM continues...

Jim Bunning Repeatedly Blocks Unemployment Benefits Extension, Tells Dem 'Tough Shit'

Updated below: The Senate has now recessed for the weekend without taking action.

Jim Bunning, a Republican from Kentucky, is single-handedly blocking Senate action needed to prevent an estimated 1.2 million American workers from prematurely losing their unemployment benefits next month.

As Democratic senators asked again and again for unanimous consent for a vote on a 30-day extension Thursday night, Bunning refused to go along.

And when Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) begged him to drop his objection, Politico reports, Bunning replied: "Tough shit."

Bunning says he doesn't oppose extending benefits -- he just doesn't want the money that's required added to the deficit. He proposes paying for the 30-day extension with stimulus funds. The Senate's GOP leadership did not support him in his objections.

And at one point during the debate, which dragged on till nearly midnight, Bunning complained of missing a basketball game.

"I have missed the Kentucky-South Carolina game that started at 9:00," he said, "and it's the only redeeming chance we had to beat South Carolina since they're the only team that has beat Kentucky this year.

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I saw the clip of him saying this. It really, really, got to me. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This country will be so much better off when the dead weight of those old fart white Republican leaders, with the mindset of the 1920's, are off our backs.

So, how long would you pay unemployment benefits? Indefinitely? And how would you fund such payments? My understanding is Bunning demanded funding for the extension.. but then again,, go ahead,, tell us what you would do..

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

 

[Avatar4321]

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

You weren't called any names. You were just asked 2 questions.

If you think you are wasting your time posting, then why post? No one is forcing you to enter into the debate.

I do have to question why you think we need to get away from the policies of the 1920s. It just doesn't make sense.

The Depression of 1920 was an incredibly short depression after the Government cut taxes by 66% and cut spending by %50. We had one of the greatest economic explosions in history.

The Depression of 1929 had the Progressive Republican Hoover, and FDR passing all kinds of government programs and lasted 12 years.

So why on earth are we following the progressive policies that prolonged the depression, rather than the tax/spending reduction policies that had us out of a deeper depression very quickly?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

on Christ....are you going to cry again?....or should i say some more?.....

 

[mal]

Wow...ironic post of the day!

wow, I didn't know I was talking to you.

You're posting on a public forum you stupid twist.

Twist?...



peace...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

You weren't called any names. You were just asked 2 questions.

If you think you are wasting your time posting, then why post? No one is forcing you to enter into the debate.

I do have to question why you think we need to get away from the policies of the 1920s. It just doesn't make sense.

The Depression of 1920 was an incredibly short depression after the Government cut taxes by 66% and cut spending by %50. We had one of the greatest economic explosions in history.

The Depression of 1929 had the Progressive Republican Hoover, and FDR passing all kinds of government programs and lasted 12 years.

So why on earth are we following the progressive policies that prolonged the depression, rather than the tax/spending reduction policies that had us out of a deeper depression very quickly?

Facts are oh so very cruel to Progressives

 

[Claudette]

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

You weren't called any names. You were just asked 2 questions.

If you think you are wasting your time posting, then why post? No one is forcing you to enter into the debate.

I do have to question why you think we need to get away from the policies of the 1920s. It just doesn't make sense.

The Depression of 1920 was an incredibly short depression after the Government cut taxes by 66% and cut spending by %50. We had one of the greatest economic explosions in history.

The Depression of 1929 had the Progressive Republican Hoover, and FDR passing all kinds of government programs and lasted 12 years.

So why on earth are we following the progressive policies that prolonged the depression, rather than the tax/spending reduction policies that had us out of a deeper depression very quickly?

Facts are oh so very cruel to Progressives

Oh Yes.

Why let the facts get in the way of a good bunch of bs???

 

[Claudette]

Well that will get them used to living with less income for the jobs they are likely to find?

LOl. You may be right. I just wonder what will be out there when they actually start looking for work.

A demand for Chinese language tutors?

LOL Chinese could be the language in demand. Also, how about a chinese laborer?? They might get a job in China. LOL

 

[amrchaos]

And the problem with paying for it out of the stimulus money would be... ?

Less Stimulus funds for Dems Job package!!

 

[uscitizen]

Less money for THIS round of Job incentives.

But then it helps those out of jobs....

 

[amrchaos]

Oh, shut up!!! I have gone to a lot of trouble to do posts that are informative when one of you bagheads ask me a question, as you have just done. And then 2 things happen.

Either everybody disappears and nobody even comments. Or they SAY they read it, but you can tell by their response that they did not. So they tell me everything I have said is wrong and then I get called names. But either way I wasted my time even answering. I'm so done with that.

And I would like to point out that you NEVER respond when somebody asks you a question. So you know what you can do.

You weren't called any names. You were just asked 2 questions.

If you think you are wasting your time posting, then why post? No one is forcing you to enter into the debate.

I do have to question why you think we need to get away from the policies of the 1920s. It just doesn't make sense.

The Depression of 1920 was an incredibly short depression after the Government cut taxes by 66% and cut spending by %50. We had one of the greatest economic explosions in history.

The Depression of 1929 had the Progressive Republican Hoover, and FDR passing all kinds of government programs and lasted 12 years.

So why on earth are we following the progressive policies that prolonged the depression, rather than the tax/spending reduction policies that had us out of a deeper depression very quickly?

Hoover was not a progressive. Who told you that lie?

Oh--another thing to point out

The stimulus of 2009 had a tax cut

The stimulus of 2008 had a tax cut in a form of a tax rebate

Bush cut taxes twice(that is right--twice)

The only tax increase I can find was on cigerettes

Yet no one wants to point out that these tax cutting policies has yet to produce the results that Reaganism promised.

No--I am serious--When did we raise taxes? We have not raised income or corporate taxes since the Clinton era--and Clinton cut taxes before leaving the White house so I am starting to wonder if cutting taxes to stimulate the economy is really a solution here. Why not stabilize the tax code and look at cutting spending in non-essential areas such as research and so forth?

Oh by the way. At some point the Laffer curve concept of cutting taxes to increase revenue will fail as well. In fact--the lafffer curve theorixes a rate for maximum governmental revenue--to cut or increase taxs from this point is to diminish government revenue so the question becomes what is the ideal tax rate--not lets cut taxes to increase revenue.

 

[CMike]

Republican white house and congress

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrats take over congress

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Democrats have white house and congress

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
2010 9.7


Any questions?

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[uscitizen]

No questions from here. I understand cause and effect pretty well.

I also understand spin.
I just do not believe it.

 

[CMike]

No questions from here. I understand cause and effect pretty well.

I also understand spin.
I just do not believe it.

Other than "any questions" I provided no spin.

I just gave the data and the events.

 

[potter 58]

the spin is mike when you broke it down when the Dems took over in o6, never mentioning that Bush finally found his veto pen which seemed to have been lost for his first 6 years , you know when the other pricks controled congress

 

[Oldandtired]

It'd be nice to see details on just the kind of people who would receive said "benefits." I've heard some pretty hilariously troubling horror stories about people on unemployment lately with my cousin being a recruiter.

Me, being a recruiter as well as the owenr of a temp and perm staffing agency in Manhattan....I bet your cousin and I have some pretty interesting storeis to tell as it pertains to unemployment.

There is more abuse of unemployment than anyone can imagine.

If I offer a temp job to someone who has been unemployed for 6 months, they have the right to turn it down for a multitude of illegitimate reasons....like....and you ready for this....if the commute is longer than 30 minutes.....

Here in NY, the average commute is 45 minutes.

And they still get to collect anyway....at the cost of the first and second employer of record.

 

[Oldandtired]

the spin is mike when you broke it down when the Dems took over in o6, never mentioning that Bush finally found his veto pen which seemed to have been lost for his first 6 years , you know when the other pricks controled congress

Curious...what does the veto pen have to do with hard data?
Before you answer....you dont want to look like a hypocrite trying to spin it now....do you?