GOP/Dem SOTU Guest List Says It All

[Spare_change]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

 

[OKTexas]

An addition to the republican list is Jim McIngvale, AKA Mattress Mack, a Houston furniture store owner that opened two of his locations to flood victims. He housed, fed them and provided his delivery trucks for high water rescues. Then after the floods subsided he gave thousands of mattresses to vets who lost everything in the floods. He also chartered a jet and paid all expenses for a group of first responders to go to the World Series in LA. He is the guest of Kevin Brady, TX congressman and Chairman of the Ways and means committee.


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[busybee01]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

Democrats also wrap themselves in the flag......but it's the Mexican flag

 

[bripat9643]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

The Dims are the ones staging a coup against a lawfully elected President of the United States. It's laughable to claim that Dims are patriots. They are scum.

 

[bripat9643]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

Democrats also wrap themselves in the flag......but it's the Mexican flag

That's a good one! Also the Russian flag!

 

[Ridgerunner]

This is for busybee

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

An addition to the republican list is Jim McIngvale, AKA Mattress Mack, a Houston furniture store owner that opened two of his locations to flood victims. He housed, fed them and provided his delivery trucks for high water rescues. Then after the floods subsided he gave thousands of mattresses to vets who lost everything in the floods. He also chartered a jet and paid all expenses for a group of first responders to go to the World Series in LA. He is the guest of Kevin Brady, TX congressman and Chairman of the Ways and means committee.


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He Will Saaaave You Money!!!!

 

[busybee01]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

The Dims are the ones staging a coup against a lawfully elected President of the United States. It's laughable to claim that Dims are patriots. They are scum.

No one is staging a coup. The Republicans are scum who slander hard working FBI agents, DOJ employees and intelligence officials who work hard to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic.

 

[SSGT Bags]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

Truly unbelievable.

 

[miketx]

On Monday, President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania announced their special guests at the President’s first State of the Union address on Tuesday:

• The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.
• The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.
• The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.
• Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
• Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.
• Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.
• Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.
• U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.
• A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.
• The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.
• A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ guests at the State of the Union include:

• Illegal aliens brought as guests by House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and other Democrats,
• A transgender Marine Corp veteran who opposes Pres. Trump’s efforts to ban transgenders from U.S. military service,
• The wife of an Iraqi man living in Michigan who was convicted of a weapons charge, spent two years in prison, and ordered deported in 1994, who was arrested and detained by immigration officials in 2017 – and who is leading a class-action suit against the U.S. government’s effort to deport detainees, and
• The daughter of a man deported after being criminally convicted in 1997 of knowingly possessing false identification to defraud the United States, who was detained and ordered deported in October of 2017 after illegally returning to the U.S.

Trump's SOTU Guests Include Heroes, Homeowners - Dems Invite Transgender Veteran, Illegal Aliens

Typical Republicans trying to wrap themselves in the flag when they are doing everything to gut what the flag stands for. If these people want to do this then they are dishonest pigs.

You're hatred of Americans can not be more clear.

 

[OKTexas]

An addition to the republican list is Jim McIngvale, AKA Mattress Mack, a Houston furniture store owner that opened two of his locations to flood victims. He housed, fed them and provided his delivery trucks for high water rescues. Then after the floods subsided he gave thousands of mattresses to vets who lost everything in the floods. He also chartered a jet and paid all expenses for a group of first responders to go to the World Series in LA. He is the guest of Kevin Brady, TX congressman and Chairman of the Ways and means committee.


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He Will Saaaave You Money!!!!

He does, he paid out 10 million to customers when the Astros won the series, even threw a party to do it.


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[HereWeGoAgain]

An addition to the republican list is Jim McIngvale, AKA Mattress Mack, a Houston furniture store owner that opened two of his locations to flood victims. He housed, fed them and provided his delivery trucks for high water rescues. Then after the floods subsided he gave thousands of mattresses to vets who lost everything in the floods. He also chartered a jet and paid all expenses for a group of first responders to go to the World Series in LA. He is the guest of Kevin Brady, TX congressman and Chairman of the Ways and means committee.


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He Will Saaaave You Money!!!!

He does, he paid out 10 million to customers when the Astros won the series, even threw a party to do it.


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Yep...he's already planning it for next year as well.

I came to Houston with five thousand dollars and a dream....

Man that was a long time ago.