Goodbye Proud Boys

Errr, but, all that was mentioned in the article is the banner. So, where are you getting that he is dangerous to the church?

You made the claim, I'm asking you what you based it on.
No, the trial was widely reported as was the outcome.
The complete failure to describe any harm that justifies the massive penalty laid on the Proud Boys.
Only the jury saw all the evidence.
ALL we have heard of, is the banner and "other vandalism".

This level of punishment, it seems like it would be Just, if the church was at least, mostly destroyed.
The statutes they violated carry unlimited punitive damages.
So, laws passed to deal with mass murderers, are instead brought down on banner tearer uppers....

And you support this?
The jury did and I agree with them.
But, lot of white people opposed segregation and before that slavery. And fought against it, often paying quite a price up to and including DYING for it.
Where did I say anything contrary?
So, shitcanning what they have to say about it, because of their race, seems, very wrong. Racist even.


w.s. implies that the King of england pushed policy to server the interests fo white people as a whole, while keeping down the non-whites of the empire.

Yet, the king of england, was happy to deny white people in his own nation of ENGLAND, their full rights, let alone the white people of scotland or ireland, or even the American colonies, or the Austrialians, or the Canadians....
That does not serve as proof that the empire was not white supremacist - both things can be true at the same time.
If he was a w.s., he was pretty bad at it. You seem to be just smearing people with that label, very recklessly.
Who have I smeared?
I always thought of Imperialism as an intersically selfish system, set up to enrich the very top leadership of the empire, at the expense of pretty much everyone not them, with the price for empire paid, by pretty much everyone not them.

I really doubt that the king of england of say, 1770 felt any kinship or loyalty towards say... the average white farmer of say... colonial Ontairo.
I agree, how does this show that the United States before and after independence was not white supremacist and still is?

The constitution was drafted and ratified by white men, most of British ancestry, The declaration of independence is the same, no black people, no native Americans participated and that's because these men - like the empire they emanated from - were white supremacist.
 
No, the trial was widely reported as was the outcome.

You seem to be missing the point. The stated damages seems completely unsupported by hte reported damages.



Only the jury saw all the evidence.

You seem to be assuming the jury is perfect. YOu seem to be misunderstanding that I am questioning the validity of their decision.

Citing their decision, to support their decision, is not rational.



The statutes they violated carry unlimited punitive damages.

Yes, statues written to deal with mass murderers are instead applied to a man that torn up a banner.

That is what we are seeing here. You agree that that is what the court did.


The jury did and I agree with them.

I see that. I expected nothing less. Are you that emotionally invested in BANNERS, as an issue, of itself, or is this more an ideological thing for you, where you just supporting using government force to suppress your political enemies?


Where did I say anything contrary?

When you dismissed all white people as having the right to speak on racial matters.

That is you dismissing all white people as being somehow unworthy to even speak on racial issues.

That is what you did. You were very clear about it.


That does not serve as proof that the empire was not white supremacist - both things can be true at the same time.

It really does. If an organization such as the british empire oppresses the vast majority of it's white population in the pursuit of benefiting the imperial elite of the empire,

that is them NOT serving the interests of the white race as a whole.

IMPERALISM was the ideology of the british empire, not white supremacy.

You might want to talk to an irish person about how the british were looking out for him and his ancestors.


Who have I smeared?

In the context of that statement, it was clear I was referring to the King of England.




I agree, how does this show that the United States before and after independence was not white supremacist and still is?

The constitution was drafted and ratified by white men, most of British ancestry, The declaration of independence is the same, no black people, no native Americans participated and that's because these men - like the empire they emanated from - were white supremacist.


Incredible. YOU make a claim that british empire was w.s., to support your claim that the us, is w.s., and then when I address the claimn that the brit empire was w.s.

you ask how this means shit to the us.


Libs. Hilarious.
 
You seem to be missing the point. The stated damages seems completely unsupported by hte reported damages.





You seem to be assuming the jury is perfect. YOu seem to be misunderstanding that I am questioning the validity of their decision.

Citing their decision, to support their decision, is not rational.





Yes, statues written to deal with mass murderers are instead applied to a man that torn up a banner.

That is what we are seeing here. You agree that that is what the court did.




I see that. I expected nothing less. Are you that emotionally invested in BANNERS, as an issue, of itself, or is this more an ideological thing for you, where you just supporting using government force to suppress your political enemies?




When you dismissed all white people as having the right to speak on racial matters.

That is you dismissing all white people as being somehow unworthy to even speak on racial issues.

That is what you did. You were very clear about it.




It really does. If an organization such as the british empire oppresses the vast majority of it's white population in the pursuit of benefiting the imperial elite of the empire,

that is them NOT serving the interests of the white race as a whole.

IMPERALISM was the ideology of the british empire, not white supremacy.

You might want to talk to an irish person about how the british were looking out for him and his ancestors.




In the context of that statement, it was clear I was referring to the King of England.







Incredible. YOU make a claim that british empire was w.s., to support your claim that the us, is w.s., and then when I address the claimn that the brit empire was w.s.

you ask how this means shit to the us.


Libs. Hilarious.

And in the 100 yard debate between Sherlock Holmes and Correll, Sherlock wins by 97 yards.
 
Maybe these weirdos will get proper jobs now and stop pretending they're Nazi stormtroopers.

Good to see some good old fashioned law and order:

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The Proud Punks are loud bigots who attempted to intimidate a black church and they failed. I'm surprised about them not money, they are after all White and they think their skin color makes them superior.
 
This is a form of domestic terrorism, this is unacceptable in America or was until Trump.



Terrorizing black people in a ******* church too, by maniacal "proud boys" many of whom claim to be christian, who support a president supported by other Christians is a return to very dark days and any black person is right to be terrified by that and by what's unfolding now in our country.
 
I've not yet watched anything about the Tulsa massacre, I've been waiting for a good time to watch it.



Any black person experiencing threats of violence, intimidation, destruction and burning by a white mob has every reason to be terrified and every reason to want those people punished to the full extent of the law.
 
The Proud Punks are loud bigots who attempted to intimidate a black church and they failed. I'm surprised about them not money, they are after all White and they think their skin color makes them superior.


Their recently released leader is a black cuban.
 
This is a form of domestic terrorism, this is unacceptable in America or was until Trump.



Terrorizing black people in a ******* church too, by maniacal "proud boys" many of whom claim to be christian, who support a president supported by other Christians is a return to very dark days and any black person is right to be terrified by that and by what's unfolding now in our country.



They burned a sign. Your video provided no context as to the incident, so, that was useless.

If they just saw the sign and grabbed it and burned it, that was wrong and charging them with some form of theft and/or vandalism would be completely justified.

A two million dollar punishment, taking away their name, is not called for.


This is more lawfare, ie the weaponization of the courts, and law enforcement by dems, to try to suppress their political enemies.
 
And an fbi informant. Strange people.

The other lefty assumed incorrectly that hte proud boys were all white and that that led them to believe that they are "Superior".


The lefty was clearly wrong.

I look forward to seeing how he deals with that.


A rational actor would reexamine his assumptions and recheck his posiiton.


Being a lefty, rational is not really an option of course. So, it could be quite amusing.
 
They burned a sign. Your video provided no context as to the incident, so, that was useless.

If they just saw the sign and grabbed it and burned it, that was wrong and charging them with some form of theft and/or vandalism would be completely justified.

A two million dollar punishment, taking away their name, is not called for.


This is more lawfare, ie the weaponization of the courts, and law enforcement by dems, to try to suppress their political enemies.
Like all extremists you blame everything around you that seeks to thwart extremism, the astonishing thing is you actually believe all of the deranged bullshit you post.

People eating pets?
Disinfectant to treat Covid?
Trump won in 2020?

Get a life you simpleton.
 
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Like all extremists you blame everything around you that seeks to thwart extremism, the astonishing thing is you actually believe all of the deranged bullshit you post.

People eating pets?
Disinfectant to treat Covid?
Trump won in 2020?

Get a life you simpleton.

I addressed the topic of the op. And your position on it. Instead of responding to my obviously correct point, that 2 million dollars is not a just punishment for tearing up a banner,

you change the subject.


That is you admitting that you cannot defend your support of this clearly unjust action by the courts.

You are supporting it, because it is political oppression of your political enemies.

That is tryanny. You are doing tryanny in real time, right here.
 
I addressed the topic of the op. And your position on it. Instead of responding to my obviously correct point, that 2 million dollars is not a just punishment for tearing up a banner,

you change the subject.


That is you admitting that you cannot defend your support of this clearly unjust action by the courts.

You are supporting it, because it is political oppression of your political enemies.

That is tryanny. You are doing tryanny in real time, right here.
The laws in question stipulate unlimited punitive damages, therefore the fine is consistent with that. Nothing tyrannical there.

The fine reflects the gravity of the crime not the market price of the destroyed sign.

Look at how much Giuliani was fined, many decried that as excessive but the law is the law and the damages are assessed in accordance with the law.

Finally I also do not care, I have no sympathy for bigoted grown men who terrorize black people inside a church and vandalize the church, none, they are scum, racist filth and nobody should be defending them.

You think the fine is excessive, well that's OK we all have a view but it is not tyranny to oppose and punish racist filth who should be conducting themselves as decent citizens not domestic terrorists.

These bastards clearly had no idea about the law, but as they say, ignorance of the law is no defense so **** em.
 
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I addressed the topic of the op. And your position on it. Instead of responding to my obviously correct point, that 2 million dollars is not a just punishment for tearing up a banner,

you change the subject.


That is you admitting that you cannot defend your support of this clearly unjust action by the courts.

You are supporting it, because it is political oppression of your political enemies.

That is tryanny. You are doing tryanny in real time, right here.
The court disagrees with your opinion. You will live with it.
 
The other lefty assumed incorrectly that hte proud boys were all white and that that led them to believe that they are "Superior".


The lefty was clearly wrong.

I look forward to seeing how he deals with that.


A rational actor would reexamine his assumptions and recheck his posiiton.


Being a lefty, rational is not really an option of course. So, it could be quite amusing.
Rational and "Lefty" don't mix. Screaming ,chanting ,and rioting id their bag.
 
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