And the relevance of all that to this thread is that the UDC is the same group that ran around frantically erecting statues and monuments on public land, AND spent even more energy rewriting school history textbooks, ALL in the name of Propaganda. The propaganda of the Cult of the Lost Cause.Did I not keep it simple enough for even you to understand? The battles of Stones River and Lookout Mountain were indeed important battles that happened near by. The carving on Stone Mountain to is commemorate the Confederacy and the the War in the West that took place along the logistically important railways and river systems running from Nashville Tn. through Atlanta Ga. I provided links knowing your aversion to looking at history that actually happened rather than making up your own as you go along. Neither the battles nor the carving had anything to do with slavery.No, you're the asshat who thinks all of history in some way pertains to slavery even though it was abolished long ago.Bull! Monuments record history same as books do and books can be written in an attempt to rewrite the history recorded by monuments just as easily as the other way around. Fact is both are made by people and sometimes people either lie or do not know the truth and record something else. You're all about agenda; not history and not truth. You desperately search for excuses.Only Nazis and commies would be happy about removing history. You libtards are so friggin stupid.I'm very happy to read about this. I hope it continues.
All of those monuments and statues should be in a museum where they belong.
People who attacked our nation causing the bloodiest war in our history, which put brother against brother, which killed over 600 thousand Americans, should never been revered or celebrated.
They should only be held in contempt. They aren't patriots. Patriots don't go to war to leave the union.
They are traitors to our nation and the last thing they deserve is our respect or any sort of monument or statue.
Once AGAIN for the stupids ---- monuments are NOT where we keep history. BOOKS are where we keep history. Nothing changed about that.
Monuments are where we REWRITE history, if so inclined, which is what these particular monuments tried to do, and succeeded for too long. Why don't you tell the class what sort of folks would be UNhappy that the REWRITE was undone.
Uhhhmmmm.... I ain't the asshat who just made up a fictitious "very important battle" that never happened, Gummo, so which one of us is "desperate"?
And I "made up" nothing". I confused similar place names.
"All history" in no way pertains to slavery. You made that up just like you made up the "Battle of Stone Mountain". You know, the one that "deserves to be remembered".
If something "deserves to be remembered" how is it you can't remember it?
You sat on this board claiming a "very important battle" took place at Stone Mountain, where "many men died" and "deserve to be remembered". AGAIN if you claim to be all about history HOW did you pull that out of your ass? How can you "remember" battle deaths that never happened?
Again, neither of those sites is near Stone Mountain, I DON'T NEED your links to know your Battle of Stone Mountain never happened, and I didn't claim Stone Mountain OR those battles had anything to do with slavery, other than being associated with the Confederacy. What I DID say in bringing up Stone Mountain was that it was the site of the re-founding of the Ku Klux Klan in 1915, and that the UDC commemorated it with the relief sculpture, hiring a rabid Klanner to do it, just as they also commemorated the building at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee, the birthplace of the first Ku Klux Klan in 1865.
Those are facts. I was aware I knew more history than you do, I guess I didn't realize I know WAY more.
And the relevance of all that to this thread is that the UDC is the same group that ran around frantically erecting statues and monuments on public land, AND spent even more energy rewriting school history textbooks, ALL in the name of Propaganda. The propaganda of the Cult of the Lost Cause.
If the Daughters of the Confederacy did anything other than good works I am unaware of them
Of course you're unaware. That's because I keep pointing to post 108 and you keep going , scared shitless that you might actually learn something.
and you have certainly not presented any evidence of such.
Again, see post 108. This is exactly why I put it there. I can point you to the post number; I can't read it into your unwilling brain FOR you.
Statues and monuments may commemorate something you don't like or don't agree with but they are not propaganda.
That's *EXACTLY* what they are. You just said so yourself --- "commemorate". Propaganda is what commemoration is..
Commemorate
com·mem·o·rate
/kəˈmeməˌrāt/
verb
recall and show respect for (someone or something).
"a wreath-laying ceremony to commemorate the war dead"
celebrate (an event, a person, or a situation) by doing or building something.
If they were NOT propaganda, it would be impossible to "agree" or "disagree" with it. You can't "agree" or "disagree" with fact; you "agree" or "disagree" with OPINION. In this case the OPINION is the whole Lost Cause Cult song and dance. "It really wasn't about slavery" "Even if it was about slavery, slavery was a good thing" -- that whole load of crap.
Many of the monuments that were torn down had absolutely nothing to do with the Confederacy or slavery. Far more a matter of "political correctness" than history or propaganda.
So you're saying "Confederate monuments finally removed" (the topic here) had nothing to do with the Confederacy? Or slavery?
Again, let's go back to my previous analogy which IIRC you had no answer for --- imagine a group called the United Daughters of the Third Reich had run around all over Europe where Nazi Germany invaded, frantically throwing up statues and monuments and markers in homage to this place where Jews were herded into cattle cars or that place where the local socialists, intellectuals, infirm and other "undesirables" were corralled, worked and/or shot to death and buried in mass graves. Now imagine there's a contemporary movement to remove those stone tributes. We could imagine it would look something like this:
--- Based on what you're posting here you'd be opposed to that action, right? Not to mention this imaginary UDTR would have spent even more time rewriting German history books to whitewash what the Nazi regime did.
Now imagine some Swastika like that has been perched across the street from a synagogue for decades, but now it's about to be blown up. And you're the one protesting "NO DON'T DO IT" Because "HISTORY"!