Okay, so I wasted my time by going back and watching the highly biased piece of Northern propaganda and "learned" nothing new. Nothing in that presentation provides any evidence that the Northern view of "Civil War" history is in any way more correct than the Southern view of the Civil War. The history books were written in the North and I appreciate the efforts of the Daughters of the Confederacy to see that children were presented an unbiased version of history. I submit that Northern insistence that the title "Civil" be used for a war in which civilian men women and children were slaughtered and abused is itself a fine and obvious piece of propaganda.
It's documented. Not sure where you get "Northern" out of Vox or Dr. Cox, a history professor here in North Carolina who has a considerable output of Southern history. So you mean 'Northern" as in "NORTH Carolina"?
What the fuck dood, I gave you the Wiki link as well. The Cult of the Lost Cause is not one of Fingerboy's "newly discovered photos". It got started right after the Civil War itself in the first edition of that revisionist history, the book by Pollard, which is referenced both in the video and the Wiki page.
As for "civil war" it's a commonly used term for any INTERNAL war within a single country. The English Civil War. The Russian Civil War. Etc. What you're doing is taking a George Carlin joke and polluting it, and you don't get away with that either.
Commemorate
com·mem·o·rate
/kəˈmeməˌrāt/
verb
recall and show respect for (someone or something).
"a wreath-laying ceremony to commemorate the war dead"
celebrate (an event, a person, or a situation) by doing or building something.
Apparently there's no dispute here. Point stands.
If they were NOT propaganda, it would be impossible to "agree" or "disagree" with it. You can't "agree" or "disagree" with fact; you "agree" or "disagree" with OPINION.
Untrue. People disagree with fact all the time. You especially.
Monuments show the remembrance and respect of the people who erected them and require nothing from any one else. Your opinion is neither requested or called for.
WRONG. As I just said, you CANNOT "agree or disagree" with FACTS. That's NOT AN OPTION.
As you CONCEDE here, what monuments display is OPINION. A
value judgment. You don't put up a monument to a Charles Manson and you don't put up a monument to some anonymous nobody. You put them up to HONOR a person or an event. NOTHING in that is made of "fact". That is OPINION. To honor something or someone is to render a
value judgment thereof.
And you've still not proffered any explanation for why said monuments would be relentlessly put up in high traffic
public spaces having nothing to do with any person or battle, even as far from the Civil War as freaking Montana --- which is even farther away than North Dakota. WHY did they do that, if these are not propaganda transmitters?
Why indeed.
So you're saying "Confederate monuments finally removed" (the topic here) had nothing to do with the Confederacy? Or slavery?
No, I'm saying that it is perfectly reasonable to honor and respect the Confederacy.
That's nice dear, but it's got nothing to do with unhooking propaganda transmitters that were set up specifically to revise the public perception of history.
Again, why don't you show the class some other example of the LOSERS of a war running around setting up propaganda transmitters to whitewash their legacy. Wide open --- anywhere and any time you want.
Not everyone shares your fetish over slavery nor do they use that yardstick to judge our ancestors by.
I'm not the one whining about fetishes here, Hunior. I'm the one pointing out what those fetishes WERE PUT THERE FOR.
To honor a person, to memorialize a battle and honor the fallen of both sides, these things have nothing to do with slavery anywhere except in your own beady little brain.
And in the articles of secession of literally every state that seceded to form the Confederacy. Are you now saying they were lying about their own motivations, in their own time??
Why does this sound so much like "Don't you tell me what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think"?
And why does it remind us that Robert E. Lee, whose image was taken down in New Orleans, whose yet-another image was the spark of the Tiki Torcher riot in Charlottesville --- specifically asked that those images SHOULD NOT EXIST? "Fuck Robert E. Lee, we know better". Is that it?
And a fact you continue to ignore is that many of, perhaps the majority, of the monuments commemorated nothing that had anything to do with that war or even that time period.
Oh really.
WHERE is this alleged "fact" then? Linkie?
, scared shitless that you might actually learn something.
