Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[JimH52]

It all comes down to slavery
The issue of slavery had been brewing for 40 years and came to a boil with the election of Lincoln

States Rights came down to a states right to allow slavery

10th Anendment was a states authority to allow slavery.

Magats long for the days of Jim Crow.

 

[OODA_Loop]

It all comes down to slavery
The issue of slavery had been brewing for 40 years and came to a boil with the election of Lincoln

States Rights came down to a states right to allow slavery

10th Anendment was a states authority to allow slavery.

Slavery was a State Right under the 10th Amendment and had the force of Federal law and survived constitutional challenges to abolish it.

Abolitionists didn't have the rule of law so while starting terrorist actions they provoked war.

 

[rightwinger]

Slavery was a State Right under the 10th Amendment and had the force of Federal law and survived constitutional challenges to abolish it.

Abolitionists didn't have the rule of law so while starting terrorist actions they provoked war.

Yes it did
Means the south had no reason to secede

Provoking the Civil War led to a rapid end to slavery

With the exception of John Brown
Abolitionists were peaceful
Uncle Toms Cabin had more of an impact

 

[OODA_Loop]

Yes it did
Means the south had no reason to secede

Provoking the Civil War led to a rapid end to slavery

With the exception of John Brown
Abolitionists were peaceful
Uncle Toms Cabin had more of an impact

So if you don't have the force of law in your favor......provoke war to settle issues?

I can see why Southern states wanted out.

 

[schmidlap]

Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument removed by ‘woke lemmings’ to Arlington National Cemetery

The Reconciliation Monument was removed from Arlington National Cemetery in 2023.

www.al.com

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth backed up his decision to return a Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery removed by “the woke lemmings” who have erased Confederate symbols from American culture.

The Reconciliation Monument, a memorial to the Confederacy, was removed from Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia in 2023.

Hegseth explained his decision to bring back the monument to Arlington during a Fox News appearance Thursday afternoon.

“Because we recognize our history, we don’t erase it. We don’t follow the woke lemmings off the cliff that want to tear down statues,” the secretary said.

Good. That's American history. Sadly the dems made it into a political/ethnic issue.

Whether you agree or disagree with the government in charge, the soldiers fought for their states.

Union or confederate they should be honored. And hopefully remembered so similar events won’t repeat themselves.

I oppose erecting monuments to any and all self-proclaimed enemies of the United States on public land anywhere in the United States.

Confederates rejected the U.S. Constitution in favor of their own, primarily to protect states' rights and the institution of slavery. They pledged loyalty to their "Confederate Constitution."

If someone wants to commemorate on private land anyone who rejected the U.S. Constitution and/or attacked U.S. forces, that is a different matter

 

[rightwinger]

So if you don't have the force of law in your favor......provoke war to settle issues?

I can see why Southern states wanted out.

The South wanted out because they were afraid of losing slavery and the nation was growing intolerant

The South provoked the war by attacking Ft Sumter
Stupid thing to do

 

[rightwinger]

I oppose erecting monuments to any and all self-proclaimed enemies of the United States on public land anywhere in the United States.

Confederates rejected the U.S. Constitution in favor of their own, primarily to protect states' rights and the institution of slavery. They pledged loyalty to their "Confederate Constitution."

If someone wants to commemorate on private land anyone who rejected the U.S. Constitution and/or attacked U.S. forces, that is a different matter

They celebrate Robert E Lees birthday instead of Martin Luther King

 

[schmidlap]

They celebrate Robert E Lees birthday instead of Martin Luther King

Lee was not tried for treason after the war only because he had renounced US citizenship at the time he attacked and killed U.S. forces.

(No nation anywhere on earth ever recognized the self-proclaimed "Confederate States of America" as a legitimate nation,)

 

[OODA_Loop]

The South wanted out because they were afraid of losing slavery and the nation was growing intolerant

The South provoked the war by attacking Ft Sumter
Stupid thing to do

It was South Carolina's fort and the Star of the West resupply was the provocation.

 

[rightwinger]

It was South Carolina's fort and the Star of the West resupply was the provocation.

Another overreaction from the South that cost them dearly

You don’t poke a bear with a stick and then complain when he mauls you

 

[rightwinger]

Lee was not tried for treason after the war only because he had renounced US citizenship at the time he attacked and killed U.S. forces.

(No nation anywhere on earth ever recognized the self-proclaimed "Confederate States of America" as a legitimate nation,)

Lincoln called for forgiveness of the south before he died

Lee and everyone who fought against our country should have had US citizenship revoked. No confederate combatant should hold political office.

But we let them come back like nothing happened.

If we had punished Lee, the south would have been outraged

 

[Crepitus]

Every time we turn around, dems are wanting our history removed

Wow, I didn't think anyone could be that wrong.

Congratulations, I think you just set some sorta record...

 

[ThisIsMe]

It was the South that pushed for a revised history of the Civil War.
They pushed a Lost Cause view of the war. It was not over slavery, it was states rights.
Slaves were not treated that badly.
Lee, Stonewall and Davis were heroes while Grant and Sherman were villains

I’m talking about more recent history..

 

[rightwinger]

I’m talking about more recent history..

Today
Republicans still honor the legacy of the Confederacy

 

[Nostra]

Putting monuments to the enemies of the nation in the national cemetery.

What's next? Statues of hitler?

^^^^A racist trying to erase his party’s racist history so he can repeat it^^^

 

[Nostra]

Recognize History? Are you serious?

Trump has spent every living minute in office with his appointed goons, to ERASE all history on Trump and others... he doesn't like...

Link?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Wow, I didn't think anyone could be that wrong.

Congratulations, I think you just set some sorta record...

How many statues have democrats removed or pushed to have removed?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Today
Republicans still honor the legacy of the Confederacy

No, they recognize history

 

[rightwinger]

No, they recognize history

The Confederacy was an evil stain on our history
It deserves to be recognized as such

 

[ThisIsMe]

The Confederacy was an evil stain on our history
It deserves to be recognized as such

Ok, and that’s fine, but it IS history, good or bad, but dems want to erase it. All I was suggesting is, if you want to do that, fine, but over time, people tend to forget about things when you place them out of sight.