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Of course it does & I have never said otherwise.Outgunned? You mean the type of gun does matter?
They obviously didn't.Law enforcement arrived with plenty of time to stop this killer. Something stopped them. That is the key to this problem. Why were trained officers unable to stop him. We all know the reason. Those of us who care about childrens lives know for sure. The rest still dodge the obvious answer.
Apparently he just walked in! And locked the door behind him. Speed happened in this incident. The surprise factor.law enforcement has a lot of ways to get into a room. There were a lot of reasons including shooting that the school would have been in lockdown. I would think the shooter had to break into that classroom.
Having played with toys gun, and shot BB guns, I was a crack shot the first time I picked up a real gun (at age 12). Shooting a gun is instinctive to boys. By "training" most think safe gun handling.He was 18 and just bought his guns 2 weeks ago. How trained could he be?
You're talking out of your ass here, you have no idea what the circumstances of each of those encounters were.After many children were killed. 3 officers had a chance to kill him before the children were killed. Why did they fail?
the guy was killed by officers…not sure what you mean by they failed.So officers failed to stop him and you think teachers would? That's not their job. I'm sure the teachers would have been outgunned also right?
Because like a good progressive city officer, they probably were taught to not fire because they didnt want to be called racist, sexist, homophobe, etc.... When you castrate the police they wont do a good job. Thank Joe Biden for this is his America..He was engaged by a school resource officer and 2 regular officers. How did they fail to stop him?
Mass shootings (a made-up term that has the very lowest bar to achieve) are NOT the only metrics of how civil a society is.Share the number of mass shootings they have had compared to us. I said they don't have this problem. You said they do, prove it. How many this year vs us?
I answered and I noticed you have no response.Law enforcement arrived with plenty of time to stop this killer. Something stopped them. That is the key to this problem. Why were trained officers unable to stop him. We all know the reason. Those of us who care about childrens lives know for sure. The rest still dodge the obvious answer.
Good point: without a large officer presence he could have come out and shot many more. Probably would have: these crazies love a large body count. I've read it's a sort of competition for reputation. After death, but still.i was referring to the one that stopped him dead
but yes 100s of good guys with a gun stopped him
And the only way to make sure they are no longer a threat is.....The police aren't tasked to prevent crime. Their job is to investigate the crime scene and apprehend the perp. Crime prevention is the duty of the community at large by creating and supporting an environment conducive to peace and good will.
Once apprehended it is the job of the legislature and the courts to ensure the perps are no longer a threat to society.
Great post. I think you are completely right, and I think it's a serious and probably fatal degradation of our culture on the way to civil war.Mass shootings (a made-up term that has the very lowest bar to achieve) are NOT the only metrics of how civil a society is.
Address the mental health issues. Address the teaching of hatred we see nightly on our news channels, in our classrooms, on our streets, in our social media.
The children are watching and learning.
What they are learning is that hatred is okay. Frothing at the mouth, rabid behavior is okay.
It is okay to stand before a camera and video yourself attacking people. It is okay for armed gangs of people to run around and attack protestors. It is okay to burn buildings and kill when you don't get your way.
It is EVERYWHERE in America.
It is okay to hate, in America.
What were the exact circumstances of those encounters? At what range? How were the officers armed? Did they have clear shots at him?I'd been reading bits and pieces of that information and i am appalled. They sound as bad as those cops that allowed that florida shooting things with that cruz kid. That gunman was in there for an hour??? shooting kids??? Where are the damn officers to stop that? In the movies?
Wow. That's bad.'Let’s Rush In Because The Cops Aren’t Doing Anything': Frustrated Parents Debated STORMING Texas School To Stop Shooter
New footage from Tuesday's tragedy in Uvalde, Texas shows frantic parents yelling at police and debating entering the school themselves to stop the shooter.radaronline.com
the cops wouldn't do it and they wouldn't allow the parents. I would dare say that some of those officers and their families are going to have to leave the area.
Well, why didn't they, then? Why didn't some of those big-talking dads organize a rush on the doors and just hope the cops wouldn't shoot THEM in the back? Instead, they yell at the police to run in there and take whatever bullets are flying? Darn.'Let’s Rush In Because The Cops Aren’t Doing Anything': Frustrated Parents Debated STORMING Texas School To Stop Shooter
New footage from Tuesday's tragedy in Uvalde, Texas shows frantic parents yelling at police and debating entering the school themselves to stop the shooter.
the cops wouldn't do it and they wouldn't allow the parents. I would dare say that some of those officers and their families are going to have to leave the area.
You can't walk around an elementary school with a big scary gun. Sorry, you'll just have to make due with your handgun.Outgunned? You mean the type of gun does matter?
See my thread on arming teachers.So officers failed to stop him and you think teachers would? That's not their job. I'm sure the teachers would have been outgunned also right?
For all we know it was over by then and they were just trying to keep the parents from rushing into to a scene they could not mentally handle and of course if they did so they'd corrupt the evidence.'Let’s Rush In Because The Cops Aren’t Doing Anything': Frustrated Parents Debated STORMING Texas School To Stop Shooter
New footage from Tuesday's tragedy in Uvalde, Texas shows frantic parents yelling at police and debating entering the school themselves to stop the shooter.
the cops wouldn't do it and they wouldn't allow the parents. I would dare say that some of those officers and their families are going to have to leave the area.
