Good Guys with a gun failed again

[BothWings]

So I look at the timeline of events at the TX school shooting:

What we know and don't know in the Texas massacre

We may never know why a shooter gunned down 21 people at Robb Elementary School. But as the nation mourns the 21 lives lost, more details are emerging about the investigation, the gunman and troubling clues leading up to the massacre in Uvalde, Texas.

www.cnn.com

The gunman encountered a school district police officer, who wasn't able to stop him, Estrada said.
"He was engaged by an Uvalde ISD police officer who works here at the school. And then after that, he was engaged by two other officers from the Uvalde Police Department," Estrada said.

Officials haven't made clear how Ramos managed to get past the officers and open fire in adjacent classrooms.

Now explain to me how this happened? How do all these officers not stop an 18 year old punk with no training that just bought his guns 2 weeks ago?

Many police officers get shot first by criminals or fail to stop them before they kill someone. what's your point?

Congratulations on finding custom data to fit your story.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This has happened before. Just where do we get these not coward officers? And why do you think trained officers would be scared of an untrained 18 year old punk?

A bullet fired by an 18 year-old punk will make you just as dead as a bullet from a Navy SEAL.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes like 100 good guys it took by then right? 100 good guys for one 18 year old who just got his guns 2 weeks ago? Why is that? Why couldn't the first 3 stop him?

Repeating that line just makes you appear to be even more stupid!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I know officers were shot. The details seems fuzzy still. I also know officers sat outside while he killed children. Why were they scared to go in? Many vs 1.

You would be wrong. Two officers were hurt, but not shot.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Countries with strong gun control don't have these problems. That doesn't sound like a failure.

That is really hilarious! Do you stand up with a straight man named Pinky?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Then Salvador was engaged with a Border Patrol agent with a gun that stopped him.

WTF is Salvador?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Engaged by probably hundreds of cops by then you mean.

Nope! You are awfully free with your stupid assumptions.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

law enforcement has a lot of ways to get into a room. There were a lot of reasons including shooting that the school would have been in lockdown. I would think the shooter had to break into that classroom.

Do tell, Mr. SWAT member!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The pushed the dads involved down on the ground and held them there. Does that answer your question.

Why wouldn't they? You want a crowd running around the school while you are trying to get the shooter?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He was also wearing a bullet proof vest.

Another misconception created by Hollywood! You wear a bullet proof vest and get shot, you are likely out of action. You just don't die!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Reportedly, there was a movie about that, but I may be in the Minority remembering it.

You could read a Report on it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What parent wouldn't have given their lives to get their babies out safely?

Dead ones?

 

[struth]

WTF is Salvador?

it’s a proper noun, the name of the shooter

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

‘Good guy with a gun’ is a myth.

Arming teachers is idiotic madness.

More guns is not the ‘answer.’

At one of my schools, there was a great deal of debate over arming faculty with guns. My principal was an avid deer hunter, the assistant principal was a former deputy sheriff, and I am ex-military who volunteered to train special operations troops in urban combat. If the legislature had allowed it, there would be three people with guns on campus at least, all trained.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

it’s a proper noun, the name of the shooter

His name was Ramos.

 

[struth]

His name was Ramos.

that is his last name, his first name is Salvador.


…the more you know…

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Ask the Beto supporting Chief of police why he prevent his trained officers from entering the building. Ask him why his officers prevented armed citizens from entering the building?

What would prevent the officers in the building from blowing away the armed parents?

 

[Dagosa]

An AR-15 or similar weapon will NOT shoot open a classroom door. One of the biggest misconceptions out there!

Depends on the composition of the door.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

that is his last name, his first name is Salvador.


…the more you know…

Hence my confusion when you used a name that could be either the first or last name. Is that right, Mervin?

 

[struth]

Hence my confusion when you used a name that could be either the first or last name. Is that right, Mervin?

sorry you didn’t know the shooters name. not my fault