Gone are pre-existing conditions if you vote for trump, and I know some trumpers are counting on the ACA

[dblack]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

 

[dblack]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

 

[dblack]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

All Social Corporation must meet minimum standards. And Insurance isn't really Capitalism. It's more Socialism where everyone absorbs the cost for each of us. It MUST meet certain minimum standards. If it doesn't then it can't be allowed to exist. But tell you what, I have some insurance you may be interested in. How about Elephant Stampeded Insurance for Yosimite and Hurricane Insurance for Kansas. Now, that's not regulated. Stupid but not regulated. Right down your alley.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

You hate Democrats because they refuse to bow down to your Orange Deity and him doing away with the Constitution of the United States. Shades of Circa 1930 Italy and look where that got them.

 

[dblack]

All Social Corporation must meet minimum standards.

Why? Who says? And what the fuck is "All Social Corporation"?

It's more Socialism where everyone absorbs the cost for each of us.

No, that's what Democrats are trying to turn it into with legal mandates. Which is why the health insurance market is so fucked up.

It MUST meet certain minimum standards. If it doesn't then it can't be allowed to exist.

Why? Who says? Just because some "we-know-better" bullies want to force their views on others???

But tell you what, I have some insurance you may be interested in. How about Elephant Stampeded Insurance for Yosimite and Hurricane Insurance for Kansas. Now, that's not regulated. Stupid but not regulated. Right down your alley.

No, sorry. That doesn't sound like anything I'd be willing to pay for. But I suppose you can pass a law forcing me to buy it, if you're really hard up and have good lobbyists.

 

[dblack]

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

You hate Democrats because they refuse to bow down to your Orange Deity and him doing away with the Constitution of the United States. Shades of Circa 1930 Italy and look where that got them.

LOL - you should chat with kaz, you guys are totally on the same page.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

All Social Corporation must meet minimum standards.

Why? Who says? And what the fuck is "All Social Corporation"?

It's more Socialism where everyone absorbs the cost for each of us.

No, that's what Democrats are trying to turn it into with legal mandates. Which is why the health insurance market is so fucked up.

It MUST meet certain minimum standards. If it doesn't then it can't be allowed to exist.

Why? Who says? Just because some "we-know-better" bullies want to force their views on others???

But tell you what, I have some insurance you may be interested in. How about Elephant Stampeded Insurance for Yosimite and Hurricane Insurance for Kansas. Now, that's not regulated. Stupid but not regulated. Right down your alley.

No, sorry. That doesn't sound like anything I'd be willing to pay for. But I suppose you can pass a law forcing me to buy it, if you're really hard up and have good lobbyists.

Then you don't need any insurance at all. Not on your health, your car nor your home. And if your House catches fire, that nasty Socialist Fired Department need not respond since you want no socialism in your life. But that is your choice, isn't it.

 

[dblack]

All Social Corporation must meet minimum standards.

Why? Who says? And what the fuck is "All Social Corporation"?

It's more Socialism where everyone absorbs the cost for each of us.

No, that's what Democrats are trying to turn it into with legal mandates. Which is why the health insurance market is so fucked up.

It MUST meet certain minimum standards. If it doesn't then it can't be allowed to exist.

Why? Who says? Just because some "we-know-better" bullies want to force their views on others???

But tell you what, I have some insurance you may be interested in. How about Elephant Stampeded Insurance for Yosimite and Hurricane Insurance for Kansas. Now, that's not regulated. Stupid but not regulated. Right down your alley.

No, sorry. That doesn't sound like anything I'd be willing to pay for. But I suppose you can pass a law forcing me to buy it, if you're really hard up and have good lobbyists.

Then you don't need any insurance at all.

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

All Social Corporation must meet minimum standards.

Why? Who says? And what the fuck is "All Social Corporation"?

It's more Socialism where everyone absorbs the cost for each of us.

No, that's what Democrats are trying to turn it into with legal mandates. Which is why the health insurance market is so fucked up.

It MUST meet certain minimum standards. If it doesn't then it can't be allowed to exist.

Why? Who says? Just because some "we-know-better" bullies want to force their views on others???

But tell you what, I have some insurance you may be interested in. How about Elephant Stampeded Insurance for Yosimite and Hurricane Insurance for Kansas. Now, that's not regulated. Stupid but not regulated. Right down your alley.

No, sorry. That doesn't sound like anything I'd be willing to pay for. But I suppose you can pass a law forcing me to buy it, if you're really hard up and have good lobbyists.

Then you don't need any insurance at all.

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss. So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

 

[kaz]

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

You hate Democrats because they refuse to bow down to your Orange Deity and him doing away with the Constitution of the United States. Shades of Circa 1930 Italy and look where that got them.

LOL - you should chat with kaz, you guys are totally on the same page.

You had to search for this one.

Now as I was reading through your Biden quotes, I hit on poster after poster you were having the same argument with as me why you're a Biden boot licker

 

[dblack]

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss.

Agreed

So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

What are you talking about? "socially sponsored"?

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

 

[dblack]

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

You hate Democrats because they refuse to bow down to your Orange Deity and him doing away with the Constitution of the United States. Shades of Circa 1930 Italy and look where that got them.

LOL - you should chat with kaz, you guys are totally on the same page.

You had to search for this one.

No searching required. It's an active thread.

Now as I was reading through your Biden quotes, I hit on poster after poster you were having the same argument with as me why you're a Biden boot licker

Yet you didn't find any quotes of me actually supporting Biden, did you? Just threads where I'm arguing with idiots, like you, who assume that if I don't support Trump, I must support Biden. Or the opposite, that because I don't support Biden, I must support Trump. Both claims are false.

 

[Papageorgio]

There are different levels of plans. Bronze Plans are most exp. as far as deductibles and OOP max, those who get a Bronze Plan either are young and heathy, got money, or don't have money as they are the cheapest plans but they cover all existing PECS.

Bronze plans were the cheapest, high deductibles, around $1800 per person plus a $20 co-pay. You had to pay a monthly premium and had never got to the deductible and so you paid $9000 before the policy covered anything and then it was only 80%. Not sure how many people can afford to pay $9000 of insurance without it covering anything. My catastrophic was half that.

all the protections, such as the preventatives are covered 100% regardless of what plan you have.

Those aren't "protections". They're regulations forcing coverage that many consumers don't want.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just made individual policies akin to group policies. everybody has the same coverage.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

The ACA sets the Minimum not the Maximum. Just like the States set the minimums for Car Insurance.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

If you have to ask that you don't need any friggin insurance including on your car or your house. On my car, I have full coverage. It's a Classic and worth a lot more than I can afford to chunk down to either do any serious body repairs on it or another persons vehicle and it's almost impossible to replace. Minimum only protects others. Like Minimum Health Care only protects others financially.

Why should everyone be forced to have the same minimum coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Seriously, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this kind of "we-know-better" bullying is exactly why people hate Democrats?

You hate Democrats because they refuse to bow down to your Orange Deity and him doing away with the Constitution of the United States. Shades of Circa 1930 Italy and look where that got them.

dblack and I differ on many issues. Two issues we agree on, no healthcare mandate and Trump is not the answer for America.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss.

Agreed

So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

What are you talking about? "socially sponsored"?

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

The I shouldn't be sponsoring you having cheap insurance. Get your own private Fired Department.

 

[dblack]

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss.

Agreed

So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

What are you talking about? "socially sponsored"?

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

The I shouldn't be sponsoring you having cheap insurance. Get your own private Fired Department.

Uh... not sure what you're getting at here. Try again?

 

[BothWings]

He's been in office almost 4 years...


why hasn't he done that yet?

He has tried and is trying.

As if he doesn't have to go through an army of Democrats and their media black ops to get anything done.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss.

Agreed

So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

What are you talking about? "socially sponsored"?

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

The I shouldn't be sponsoring you having cheap insurance. Get your own private Fired Department.

Uh... not sure what you're getting at here. Try again?

Why should I bother. You will just cover both your eyes and scream over and over, "LALALALALALA".

 

[dblack]

Then you shouldn't have everyone else bail you out when you have a cataclysmic loss.

Agreed

So you don't need to be buying social sponsored Insurance at all. And ALL Insurance is social sponsored.

What are you talking about? "socially sponsored"?

Let me spell it out for you: what I need is none of your business. It's my call, not yours. Not the government's. Got it?

The I shouldn't be sponsoring you having cheap insurance. Get your own private Fired Department.

Uh... not sure what you're getting at here. Try again?

Why should I bother. You will just cover both your eyes and scream over and over, "LALALALALALA".

No, I'll try to read it. I just don't understand what you're getting at. I agree you shouldn't be sponsoring me having cheap insurance. What does that have to do with our discussion?