God of the Gaps (well then, how did...")

[scruffy]

Yes I agree just as some atheist morons are brain dead.

We've already established that creationists are lying trolls.

Got anything else?

 

[scruffy]

Decided yes, people choose their beliefs, that's why they're called beliefs.

You know what they say about opinions.

Engineers can predict outcomes.

Why can't you do that?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes, despite the esteemed Oxford scientific community voting you wrong, you retain faith that you're right and share original arguments.

They didn't vote anybody "wrong" they counted atheists vs theists and there were more atheists, that's all that happened.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

We've already established that creationists are lying trolls.

Some are of course.

Got anything else?

Yes, can you please show your proof that the universe was not created?

 

[ding]

Yes, can you please show your proof that the universe was not created?

Is that what he is claiming? OMG.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Is that what he is claiming? OMG.

Yes, unavoidable, he has to believe that to believe what he said: "We've already established that creationists are lying trolls".

 

[ding]

Yes, unavoidable, he has to believe that to believe what he said: "We've already established that creationists are lying trolls".

So is he arguing the universe has always existed?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So is he arguing the universe has always existed?

Who knows, he thinks he's superior to everyone else here and that arrogance leads him to dismiss questions we ask him, as if he believes anyone asking him a deep question is inferior, to be treated with contempt not respect.

Asking him a question he doesn't like is perceived by him as you being at fault, not him for not having an answer.

He needs to man up and actually understand that the belief in God is more rational than atheism but he can't see the wood for the trees.

 

[Grumblenuts]

They didn't vote anybody "wrong" they counted atheists vs theists and there were more atheists, that's all that happened.

You wish that, no doubt.

Who knows, he thinks he's superior to everyone else here and that arrogance leads him to dismiss questions we ask him, as if he believes anyone asking him a deep question is inferior, to be treated with contempt not respect.

Asking him a question he doesn't like is perceived by him as you being at fault, not him for not having an answer.

He needs to man up and actually understand that the belief in God is more rational than atheism but he can't see the wood for the trees.

Way to ad hominem, fallacy wonk. Only here two months. Lips glued to ding's butt already. SMH.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You wish that, no doubt.

WTF are you talking about? it was a vote, even you said so. If the same vote were held in a Jesuits college you'd get the opposite result,.

Something you clearly haven't learned about the material sciences and mathematics is that truth is not decided by democratic voting but by testing and theorem proving.

 

[Grumblenuts]

WTF are you talking about? it was a vote, even you said so. If the same vote were held in a Jesuits college you'd get the opposite result,.

Ew, touchy now.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Ew, touchy now.

Something you clearly haven't learned about the material sciences and mathematics is that truth is not decided by democratic voting but by experimental testing and theorem proving, the popularity of some idea is no assurance of its truth, many of the purported "scientists" here in this forum seem unaware of this important point.

 

[Grumblenuts]

John Lennox is Prof of Mathematics at Oxford University

Where the vote was taken.

WTF are you talking about? it was a vote, even you said so. If the same vote were held in a Jesuits college you'd get the opposite result,.

A Jesuit college, ay? But, but..

Something you clearly haven't learned about the material sciences and mathematics is that truth is not decided by democratic voting but by testing and theorem proving.

Having trouble making up your mind?

 

[Grumblenuts]

‘This house does not believe in God’ – Dan Barker​

I’ve done more than 100 debates as an atheist, but really looked forward to my first visit to Oxford, England, to debate the proposition, “This House Believes in God.” Members of the Oxford Society invited me, Michael Shermer and Peter Millican (philosophy, Hertford College) for a formal debate Nov. 8.

We teamed up against theists John Lennox (well-known Oxford professor of mathematics and philosophy), Peter Hitchens (journalist, author and former atheist) and Anglican priest Joanna Collicut (co-author of The Dawkins Delusion).

Oxford. Hardly the atheist homeland.

 

[scruffy]

Something you clearly haven't learned about the material sciences and mathematics is that truth is not decided by democratic voting but by experimental testing and theorem proving, the popularity of some idea is no assurance of its truth, many of the purported "scientists" here in this forum seem unaware of this important point.

You should look in the mirror.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you not know how factorial computation works?

If there were just 52 lines of code…

It’s a number with 57 zeros!

So what? Oops, you forgot to make a point.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The odds of just 52 proteins randomly assembling into a functional cell are approximately

85,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

So what? What sort of fool thinks anyone claimed this happened?

Why do you even comment on this topic? You need to go back to square one and learn about it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, you use the definition of faith that deals SPECIFICALLY with religion.

Belief in something for which there is no evidence.

Nothing is 100% accurate, but instruments that are well made are extremely close.

Close enough that you need extremely advanced instruments to better them.

Hmmmm, what?

It is a fact that the 737 Max problems are the result of bean counters and their desire to cut costs to an extreme. And the bean counters were allowed to take over by DEI hires.

Your racist fantasies don't belong in this section.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So what? Oops, you forgot to make a point.

It’s mathematically impossible for 52 lines of code to randomly assemble themselves into a working program during the life of the Universe.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Decided yes, people choose their beliefs, that's why they're called beliefs.

Then accept that and move on. You have chosen to disbelieve the most well supported theory in history.

So accept your choice and get out of these threads. No?