Zone1 God Always Has Our Backs

[Meriweather]

In what way was he there for that 4 year old that died from cancer?
In what way was he there for that woman who got raped and murdered and left behind 5 kids?

Seriously?
God let them be raped, murdered and suffer through cancer to go to a better place?
That was his grand plan for those two people?

It's not the end of the story.

Think about it. Do you love the above two people...or, are you using them for your own purpose? God loves us through the bad. He is not going to use them for His purposes. Think about it. For those who believe in God, can't think of a universe without each and every individual, or we wouldn't be here. Yes, this life can hold great sorrows, but no sorrow so great that God does not have our back; no story so sad that its next chapters do not bring renewal.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Thanks god

So the devil won. Got it.
God isnt very dependable.

Lucifer won a battle, Christ won the war, and is preparing to return to make it official.
Temporary dominion over the earth is what Lucifer won. It seems like a long time that Lucifer has been wreaking havoc here on earth, but everyone in this scenario are eternal beings. And Lucifer's time here is just a moment in eternal time. And for us, a sort of basic training to prepare for the future, because we are made in God's image. We are also eternal beings. You will never stop being you, ever.

And now the legalities. Apparently the rule is, the penalty for sin is death. Not the death where our clay bodies give out, but a second one that is eternal damnation. Since we have all sinned, Lucifer thought He had us all wrapped up. He thought we were all doomed. Then God did an end around. His Son agreed to pay the penalty for us. He redeemed us and gave the redemption to us as a gift. Jesus took our sin and gave us His perfect record to enter Heaven with. Our sin was nailed to that cross. Debt paid, 100% justice served. And if you accept the gift, your name is written in the Book of Life and God puts your sin behind Him. He doesn't even remember them, anymore. 100% merciful.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nobody ever said that bad things still don't happen in the world.

Yeah, it's like... "God's got our backs".... and then... turns out he doesn't. Two religious people I know had miscarriages at like 5-6 months. Nice one God... one of them has been trying for 14 years to have a child. The other has four kids, all as thick as bricks.

 

[buttercup]

The transfer of dominion rule has a time stamp on it,

Exactly. This age is temporary. And our time here is short, but unfortunately nonbelievers think that this is all there is.

I've shared this clip before, but I'll share it again because I think this is a really good analogy. It's worth watching.

 

[TNHarley]

If the world is satans, then why does god get the credit when things go right?

 

[sparky]

The correct answer was, no, not just children. All life is precious and should be celebrated for it is finite and fleeting. But that doesn't mean it's the most important thing. That would be your good name. Everything else can be taken away, but you have to give your good name away.

Agreed Ding

it's just watching the life drain out of those innocent kids eyes that'll hit one hard

~S~

 

[Meriweather]

If the world is satans, then why does god get the credit when things go right?

The world is God's creation, and He viewed it and saw that it was good. The question for all--whether angel, fallen angel, or human--is what will we do with what is good? While Satan is focused on the world and how he can use the world for his own goals, God's focus and love is on us, not on things. He is in our midst, at our side, in our hearts.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Sometimes it is a challenge but I keep the faith. Too many in this world are G-dless, including the man who committed the criminal acts described in this thread. People despise,.mock and spit on G-d or they follow false idolatry and conveniently forget the positive duties they are commanded to uphold. I know of late I have sworn more than I should because I have my limits of forgiveness for those who commit evil. I myself am not and will not do evil though. We have to all commit to the light in the world, not the darkness, right?

 

[TNHarley]

The world is God's creation, and He viewed it and saw that it was good. The question for all--whether angel, fallen angel, or human--is what will we do with what is good? While Satan is focused on the world and how he can use the world for his own goals, God's focus and love is on us, not on things. He is in our midst, at our side, in our hearts.

If the world is satans, then why does god get the credit when things go right?

 

[Meriweather]

If the world is satans, then why does god get the credit when things go right?

While Satan's focus is on what he can get from his using the world and us, God's focus is on giving.

 

[TNHarley]

While Satan's focus is on what he can get from his using the world and us, God's focus is on giving.

So cancer? rape?
This juvenile crap is so inconsistent it hurts my head.

 

[Meriweather]

So cancer? rape?
This juvenile crap is so inconsistent it hurts my head.

Cancer and rape are not gifts from God, they are an undeniable factor of our present life on earth. While the earth is good, it is not perfect (whole, complete) and nor are we. Fact.

Take a look within yourself. Contemplate: Are you thinking removing the cancer or stopping the rape would be great gifts from God? Right now, do you love God? Is this a case of you loving the gifts, not the giver; placing greater value on gifts than on the giver?

 

[TNHarley]

Cancer and rape are not gifts from God, they are an undeniable factor of our present life on earth. While the earth is good, it is not perfect (whole, complete) and nor are we. Fact.

Take a look within yourself. Contemplate: Are you thinking removing the cancer or stopping the rape would be great gifts from God? Right now, do you love God? Is this a case of you loving the gifts, not the giver; placing greater value on gifts than on the giver?

So we are back to "if its good, its god. If its bad, its not god" lolz

 

[Meriweather]

So we are back to "if its good, its god. If its bad, its not god" lolz

That is simplistic. Is that as complex as we can go?

For people of faith, it goes back to we live in a good world, but not a perfect (whole/complete) world. We are good people, but not perfect (whole/complete). Each day we run into something that is not complete--health, skill, something beyond our reach, something broken. So.... Now we begin: We see a need, we fill a need.

It's not a matter of "bad", it is a matter of completing, filling a need. Think, "Now I begin." Is the proper beginning to blame God or to step forward either to help those who have been raped, or in preventing rapes from occurring? Is the proper beginning for cancer, caring for those who have the disease, or supporting those who need a hand with other things while caring for their cancer victim? Or, is it to take a step back and blame God?

Another contemplation: What blame is being put on God for things personal? Contemplate: Now I begin. I see the need, I fill the need.

 

[TNHarley]

That is simplistic. Is that as complex as we can go?

For people of faith, it goes back to we live in a good world, but not a perfect (whole/complete) world. We are good people, but not perfect (whole/complete). Each day we run into something that is not complete--health, skill, something beyond our reach, something broken. So.... Now we begin: We see a need, we fill a need.

It's not a matter of "bad", it is a matter of completing, filling a need. Think, "Now I begin." Is the proper beginning to blame God or to step forward either to help those who have been raped, or in preventing rapes from occurring? Is the proper beginning for cancer, caring for those who have the disease, or supporting those who need a hand with other things while caring for their cancer victim? Or, is it to take a step back and blame God?

Another contemplation: What blame is being put on God for things personal? Contemplate: Now I begin. I see the need, I fill the need.

Its simplistic because thats what you guys make it.
He either is or isnt. Or your gawd is a raging sociopath with sadistic tendencies, as you people let on.

 

[ding]

Its simplistic because thats what you guys make it.
He either is or isnt. Or your gawd is a raging sociopath with sadistic tendencies, as you people let on.

I believe you are the one who is trying to simplify this. Life isn't fair. Expect to make sacrifices. God did.

 

[Meriweather]

Its simplistic because thats what you guys make it.
He either is or isnt. Or your gawd is a raging sociopath with sadistic tendencies, as you people let on.

What you are hearing is far from what is being conveyed. Look at the accusations being thrown in the above post: The accusation that God is a raging sociopath with sadistic tendencies. Listen again:

We are a good, but not perfect (whole/complete) people living in a good, but not perfect (whole/complete) world. We are who we presently are, working with what we are given (something good, but not yet whole/complete. Mankind chose this, to know not only good, but to know what is not whole/complete, even within ourselves, not to mention the rest of the world. Here is where we begin.

God is whole/complete and makes His dwelling places, whole/complete. This is not done with a genii-like blink or three wishes immediately granted. God works. He calls us to work with him, and He works within us, all for the good.

Consider this: How many people do you think there are--and have been--that could have been great athletes, artists, performers, etc. but didn't want to do the work. How many want/wanted to be good, but don't want to do the work.

It is not the people of faith who are throwing blame at God. It is those without faith, those who have no interest in doing the work.

 

[TNHarley]

What you are hearing is far from what is being conveyed. Look at the accusations being thrown in the above post: The accusation that God is a raging sociopath with sadistic tendencies. Listen again:

We are a good, but not perfect (whole/complete) people living in a good, but not perfect (whole/complete) world. We are who we presently are, working with what we are given (something good, but not yet whole/complete. Mankind chose this, to know not only good, but to know what is not whole/complete, even within ourselves, not to mention the rest of the world. Here is where we begin.

God is whole/complete and makes His dwelling places, whole/complete. This is not done with a genii-like blink or three wishes immediately granted. God works. He calls us to work with him, and He works within us, all for the good.

Consider this: How many people do you think there are--and have been--that could have been great athletes, artists, performers, etc. but didn't want to do the work. How many want/wanted to be good, but don't want to do the work.

It is not the people of faith who are throwing blame at God. It is those without faith, those who have no interest in doing the work.

Im not throwing blame at god. I am laughing at all the inconsistencies you people pull out of your butts to try and justify this bologna.
I immediately debunked the OP and I didnt even have to try.
No, he doesnt always have your back. That is obvious to anyone objective.

 

[ding]

Im not throwing blame at god...

Effectively you are.

 

[ding]

This juvenile crap is so inconsistent it hurts my head.

That's odd because you seem to live for it.