Globalism is a good thing

[Captain Caveman]

Superior humans are.


Rubbish. Up until recent history, most people identified with their family or local community, not larger entities such as nations.

There are examples of tribes who exist in the modern era who are still stuck with stone age technology because they never learned to integrate outside of their tribe.

You're welcome to rubbish Darwin.

 

[Midnight FM]

You're welcome to rubbish Darwin.

Darwin is rubbish. He just rediscovered an ancient line of thought which the ancient Greeks had been onto thousands of years before him:

History of evolutionary thought - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Proposals that one type of animal, even humans, could descend from other types of animals, are known to go back to the pre-Socratic Greek philosophers. Anaximander of Miletus proposed that the first animals lived in water, during a wet phase of the Earth's past, and that the first land-dwelling ancestors of mankind must have been born in water, and only spent part of their life on land. He also argued that the first human of the form known today must have been the child of a different type of animal (probably a fish), because man needs prolonged nursing to live.[8][9][7] In the late nineteenth century, Anaximander was hailed as the "first Darwinist", but this characterization is no longer commonly agreed.[10] Anaximander's hypothesis could be considered "evolution" in a sense, although not a Darwinian one.[10]

As far as what you're referring to, that would be "tribalism" anyway, not "selfishness". Such as how, in ant colonies, ants other than the queen are forced not to procreate, because their individual or "selfish" interest threatens the welfare of the tribe:

Ants That Illegally Procreate Are Revealed By Their Guilty Smell

Explore worker ants' reproduction strategies as they face repercussions from their colonies for attempting to procreate.

www.discovermagazine.com

But, obviously, animals and more barbaric cultures do things in the interest of their "survival" that more enlightened cultures would find barbaric, and do not do. And the enlightened cultures are more successful in the long run.

Such as how, if we look at multicultural nations like America and Japan, we see huge technological and cultural advancements. While "tribalistic" cultures which don't integrate with the world around them, like North Korea or primitive African tribes remain regressive and unadvanced.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Darwin is rubbish. He just rediscovered an ancient line of thought which the ancient Greeks had been onto thousands of years before him:

History of evolutionary thought - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Proposals that one type of animal, even humans, could descend from other types of animals, are known to go back to the pre-Socratic Greek philosophers. Anaximander of Miletus proposed that the first animals lived in water, during a wet phase of the Earth's past, and that the first land-dwelling ancestors of mankind must have been born in water, and only spent part of their life on land. He also argued that the first human of the form known today must have been the child of a different type of animal (probably a fish), because man needs prolonged nursing to live.[8][9][7] In the late nineteenth century, Anaximander was hailed as the "first Darwinist", but this characterization is no longer commonly agreed.[10] Anaximander's hypothesis could be considered "evolution" in a sense, although not a Darwinian one.[10]

As far as what you're referring to, that would be "tribalism" anyway, not "selfishness". Such as how, in ant colonies, ants other than the queen are forced not to procreate, because their individual or "selfish" interest threatens the welfare of the tribe:

Ants That Illegally Procreate Are Revealed By Their Guilty Smell

Explore worker ants' reproduction strategies as they face repercussions from their colonies for attempting to procreate.

www.discovermagazine.com

But, obviously, animals and more barbaric cultures do things in the interest of their "survival" that more enlightened cultures would find barbaric, and do not do. And the enlightened cultures are more successful in the long run.

Such as how, if we look at multicultural nations like America and Japan, we see huge technological and cultural advancements. While "tribalistic" cultures which don't integrate with the world around them, like North Korea or primitive African tribes remain regressive and unadvanced.

And Paul Bloom, Johnathan Haidt, David Rand, Tania Singer, Matthieu Ricard, Leslie Jamieson, Elaine Scarry etc..

I respect you have a right to express an opinion, unfortunately, too many scholars, cognitive neuroscientists, novelists etc.. disagree with you, and so do I.

 

[Midnight FM]

And Paul Bloom, Johnathan Haidt, David Rand, Tania Singer, Matthieu Ricard, Leslie Jamieson, Elaine Scarry etc..

If they're saying what you're claiming they do, then they're all rubbish as well.

There are plenty of kooks pretending to be scholars.

I respect you have a right to express an opinion, unfortunately, too many scholars, cognitive neuroscientists, novelists etc.. disagree with you, and so do I.

It's not really a matter of opinion. It's pretty much factual, and one would have to completely deny reality in order to pretend otherwise. If a "cognitive neuroscientist" said that the moon was made of cheese, it would be just as absurd.

The reality is that "survival" really doesn't matter much to the human condition. Thriving and living in developed cultures which value rights and freedoms is what matters. One can reference Maslow's hierarchy of needs, for example.

Only poor and undeveloped cultures have to put a lot of emphasis on "survival", since threats such as starvation and warfare are constant, while people in developed countries rarely have to worry about those things.

And if we look around the world, we'll see that multicultural societies such as America, Japan are much more successful and developed than tribalistic ones such as North Korea or isolated African tribes which close themselves off to the outside world.

The whole idea of "nations" itself is a multicultural one, because, for most of human history, the average person didn't identify with an entity as widespread as a "nation". They identified with their immediate kin or local village.

 

[Captain Caveman]

If they're saying what you're claiming they do, then they're all rubbish as well.

There are plenty of kooks pretending to be scholars.


It's not really a matter of opinion. It's pretty much factual, and one would have to completely deny reality in order to pretend otherwise. If a "cognitive neuroscientist" said that the moon was made of cheese, it would be just as absurd.

The reality is that "survival" really doesn't matter much to the human condition. Thriving and living in developed cultures which value rights and freedoms is what matters. One can reference Maslow's hierarchy of needs, for example.

Only poor and undeveloped cultures have to put a lot of emphasis on "survival", since threats such as starvation and warfare are constant, while people in developed countries rarely have to worry about those things.

And if we look around the world, we'll see that multicultural societies such as America, Japan are much more successful and developed than tribalistic ones such as North Korea or isolated African tribes which close themselves off to the outside world.

The whole idea of "nations" itself is a multicultural one, because, for most of human history, the average person didn't identify with an entity as widespread as a "nation". They identified with their immediate kin or local village.

Ok, good luck.

 

[22lcidw]

That is where you show your inexperience .

You present your conclusiion without any attempt to examine other positions .

Your assumption that all factions of our species should happily mix etc etc is laughable, imho .

All you are telling us is that you have a preference and that you imagine Good will result from your choice--- whereas other routes will be less successful etc

A matter if opinion , but I could produce a dozen different reasons to take the opposite view of yours if I had the time or imterest .
But given the present day situation I can only see Deep State efforts to achieve Globalist aims are being rejected and are failing .,

Which is why Clown Showman Trumpfy was gifted the Presidency -- to introduce total individual ID as a means of Control .
And to change the financial system to assist that aim .
All the while Deflecting from those aims as often and as much as possible .

You appear Gullible and have bought the Scam .

If this happens then you have validity. You know, not many people will fight this. Who is going to die to stop something that will eventually have many people die as they do not understand it.

 

[22lcidw]

That is where you show your inexperience .

You present your conclusiion without any attempt to examine other positions .

Your assumption that all factions of our species should happily mix etc etc is laughable, imho .

All you are telling us is that you have a preference and that you imagine Good will result from your choice--- whereas other routes will be less successful etc

A matter if opinion , but I could produce a dozen different reasons to take the opposite view of yours if I had the time or imterest .
But given the present day situation I can only see Deep State efforts to achieve Globalist aims are being rejected and are failing .,

Which is why Clown Showman Trumpfy was gifted the Presidency -- to introduce total individual ID as a means of Control .
And to change the financial system to assist that aim .
All the while Deflecting from those aims as often and as much as possible .

You appear Gullible and have bought the Scam .

If this happens then you have validity. You know, not many people will fight this. Who is going to die to stop something that will eventually have many people die as they do not understand it.

 

[Midnight FM]

Ok, good luck.

No one needs luck.

If you're going to try to convince people that nations such as North Korea, which are closed off to the outside world,. are more successful than developed nations like the US and European states which trade and interact with the world around them, then you're delusional.

And sense you referenced Darwin, the entire institution of modern science depends on people around the world interacting and sharing their discoveries with each other, presumably for the benefit of humanity, not their immediate "tribe". So by your odd definition of "successful", modern science wouldn't even exist if everyone ascribed to that idea of success.

Again, we don't expect the "average person" (who conveniently has an IQ of 100) to ascribe to such ideals, but, from what I can tell, the world is made by superior men and women such as Einstein who ascribe to higher, more humanistic ideals than solely being concerned about their immediate clan or tribe.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm saying that human rights should be preserved all over the world.

What one nation views as a "human right," another nation does not, thus, it is impossible to create a global government that all agree on.

but when it comes to blatant human rights violations

. . . . and here is the crux of the issue. We can't even agree in the west what are "violations," much less trying to come to accord with every other nation.

If you don't agree, just try to start a thread claiming what is going on in Gaza is a "genocide." Go on smarty pants, if you really believe you have it all figured out.

 

[Midnight FM]

What one nation views as a "human right," another nation does not, thus, it is impossible to create a global government that all agree on.

. . . . and here is the crux of the issue. We can't even agree in the west what are "violations," much less trying to come to accord with every other nation.

If you don't agree, just try to start a thread claiming what is going on in Gaza is a "genocide." Go on smarty pants, if you really believe you have it all figured out.

Not everyone has to agree on it. The UN has a universal declaration of human rights, for example.

 

[Mac-7]

The reality is that human rights are universal, and the improvement of human rights around the world, regardless of national or ethnic boundaries, is a good and noble goal.

Sadly many holdovers are more attached to their notions of tribal affiliations than they are to their common humanity, despite it being both a religious and scientific reality - Jesus Christ emphasized the need to connect with one's fellow man, and, in science, the human genome project reveals that all modern humans are descended from the same woman.

So, naturally, tribal affiliations like ethnicity or national origin are secondary, while humanity is first.

Is that whst globslism means to you?

A gene pool buffet?

Globalism can have some benefits but it will never live up to lib ideals

 

[TrumpMAGA88]

Superior humans are.


Rubbish. Up until recent history, most people identified with their family or local community, not larger entities such as nations.

There are examples of tribes who exist in the modern era who are still stuck with stone age technology because they never learned to integrate outside of their tribe.

To busy dying laughing at this one damn cuck your funny....


Lmfao "superior" weak individuals like yourself are only alive because the industrial revolution subverted Darwins natural order.

Better hope there's never an EMP.

 

[BluesLegend]

Is that whst globslism means to you?

I outed this clown early in the thread, it's another dreamer who thinks the 'rich' should have their wealth confiscated and dished out to losers like them.

 

[BluesLegend]

To busy dying laughing at this one damn cuck your funny....


Lmfao "superior" weak individuals like yourself are only alive because the industrial revolution subverted Darwins natural order.

Better hope there's never an EMP.

Nature has selected them for extinction, nothing that dumb lasts.

 

[luiza]

I outed this clown early in the thread, it's another dreamer who thinks the 'rich' should have their wealth confiscated and dished out to losers like them.

What I call a Simple Simon
Only fame was meeting the Pie Man .

 

[MisterBeale]

Not everyone has to agree on it. The UN has a universal declaration of human rights, for example.

Is "housing," a "job," or "medical care," a human right?

 

[Midnight FM]

Is "housing," a "job," or "medical care," a human right?

Yes.

 

[Midnight FM]

I outed this clown early in the thread, it's another dreamer who thinks the 'rich' should have their wealth confiscated and dished out to losers like them.

The state can take whatever it needs, and there's nothing you can do about it. Taxation is protected under the US Constitution, so whether or not you view the Framers as "losers" doesn't matter, because you're a loser who likewise doesn't matter, and doesn't have anything worth taking to begin with.

And you're completely uneducated on the subject you speak about. That's what taxation is, and has always been since ancient times.

 

[Midnight FM]

To busy dying laughing at this one damn cuck your funny....

It wasn't as funny as when I cucked your wife and you did nothing but cry about it. But that's to be expected.

Lmfao "superior" weak individuals like yourself are only alive because the industrial revolution subverted Darwins natural order.

You're completely uneducated on the subject you speak about. You probably think that "social Darwinism" has anything to do with Darwin, when in reality it didn't.

The "natural order" for much of human history was that uneducated such as yourself were owned as slaves and ruled over by comparatively educated individuals such as myself. The industrial revolution didn't subvert it, it expeditated it by allowing social Darwinists such as Hitler to put physical and mental defectives such as yourself in the death camps.

Hitler aside, though, modernity as somewhat inverted that, by allowing the bare modicum of literacy and legal rights that allow primates like yourself to function as anything but a slave.

Better hope there's never an EMP.

If there was, your anime porn addiction would be cut off, so you won't last more than 10 seconds.

You're a fat loser who's never worked out, never been in a fight outside the internet, and would get your ass kicked by the average garden variety gangster rapper.

Now go back to 4chan and hang out with your fellow fat, anime-loving subhumans.

 

[BluesLegend]

The state can take whatever it needs, and there's nothing you can do about it. Taxation is protected under the US Constitution, so whether or not you view the Framers as "losers" doesn't matter, because you're a loser who likewise doesn't matter, and doesn't have anything worth taking to begin with.

And you're completely uneducated on the subject you speak about. That's what taxation is, and has always been since ancient times.

LMAO you really are naive, it's precious.