Germany Gets It... Why Don't We?

[KMAN]

Merkel Wins Majority for Tax-Cut Coalition in Germany (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

 

[rightwinger]

Germany still has MUCH higher taxes than the US.

Are you proposing we should assume the German tax rate?

 

[mdn2000]

Germany still has MUCH higher taxes than the US.

Are you proposing we should assume the German tax rate?

How much higher?

 

[rightwinger]

So lets get this straight.

If we assume Germany's tax rate, do we get healthcare thrown in?

How about all those vacation days?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Merkel Wins Majority for Tax-Cut Coalition in Germany (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

So Germany might lower their 31% VAT tax?

How much should we lower ours?

 

[mdn2000]

Germany still has MUCH higher taxes than the US.

Are you proposing we should assume the German tax rate?

You just made a statement you knew nothing about. So how much higher, how long I got to wait for you to back track and do some searching so you can get a figure.

 

[veritas]

Tax % Tax Base (EUR)
0 Up to 7,834
14% 7,835-52,552
42% 52,553-250,400
45% 250,401 and over

Germany Tax Laws Tax System Germany. - WorldWide-Tax.com

 

[Yukon]

Germany will rise and rule the entire world. It is God's will and cannot be stopped.

Sieg heil mein fuhrer !

 

[veritas]

Germany has the 4th largest economy in the world after the US, China and Japan.

Germany has 82.5M people

The US has 300M people.

China has 1.3B people.

Japan has 128M people.

Germany is about the size of Montana.

 

[Polk]

Germany still has MUCH higher taxes than the US.

Are you proposing we should assume the German tax rate?

How much higher?

German Taxes
Corporate: 29.8% on average
Individual: 0-45%
Payroll: None
VAT/Sales: 19%

Compared to ours
Corporate: 20% on average
Individual: 0-35%
Payroll: 15%
VAT/Sales: None

 

[Sinatra]

Germany has been undergoing a decided transformation to a less stifling tax system.

Personal income taxes have been reduced.

Tax income exemption ceiling was raised.

Corporate tax rates slashed to 15% in 2008.

The VAT/consumption tax was raised - though that too is now being discussed.

The current government's primary focus has been to further free up German business so as to ensure job production and ultimately, increased tax revenues.

Chancellor Merkel also appears ready to embark on some serious government cost cutting measures - government waste within the German socialized system is immense.

The Germans are fearful of losing their status as the #1 economy in Europe, and the Merkel elections are clear indicators the German people want to free up German business and allow it to once again prosper...

 

[ABikerSailor]

Okay.......I see where this is going........

The GOPer's want us all to reduce OUR tax rate by the same percentage that Germany has lowered theirs, only we won't start at Germany's rate of 29.8 or 45 percent, we want to have it reduced from 20 and 35 percent, at the same percentage as Germany.

Got it. The greedy are getting greedier and feeling like they deserve it.

Entitlement is a bitch goddess and will kill you people. Don't do it.

 

[mdn2000]

Germany still has MUCH higher taxes than the US.

Are you proposing we should assume the German tax rate?

How much higher?

German Taxes
Corporate: 29.8% on average
Individual: 0-45%
Payroll: None
VAT/Sales: 19%

Compared to ours
Corporate: 20% on average
Individual: 0-35%
Payroll: 15%
VAT/Sales: None

Nice play with numbers, why did you exclude the state tax rate from your figures? Corporations pay state tax, 20% average federal is too low.

The tax rate is closer to 39%, thats much higher than germany.

 

[mdn2000]

Okay.......I see where this is going........

The GOPer's want us all to reduce OUR tax rate by the same percentage that Germany has lowered theirs, only we won't start at Germany's rate of 29.8 or 45 percent, we want to have it reduced from 20 and 35 percent, at the same percentage as Germany.

Got it. The greedy are getting greedier and feeling like they deserve it.

Entitlement is a bitch goddess and will kill you people. Don't do it.

How is it greed to want to keep the fruits of your own labor.

 

[Polk]

How much higher?

German Taxes
Corporate: 29.8% on average
Individual: 0-45%
Payroll: None
VAT/Sales: 19%

Compared to ours
Corporate: 20% on average
Individual: 0-35%
Payroll: 15%
VAT/Sales: None

Nice play with numbers, why did you exclude the state tax rate from your figures? Corporations pay state tax, 20% average federal is too low.

The tax rate is closer to 39%, thats much higher than germany.

I didn't include state taxes in the United States because that would skew the comparison (since both the lander and towns also levy taxes in Germany). The 20% federal average is not "too low". The corporate income tax rate in the United States is not 39%. 39% is the tax levied on corporations in the top bracket. Those in the lowest bracket pay 15%. Beyond that, the large numbers of deductions available result in the average company paying around 20%.

 

[Shogun]

Okay.......I see where this is going........

The GOPer's want us all to reduce OUR tax rate by the same percentage that Germany has lowered theirs, only we won't start at Germany's rate of 29.8 or 45 percent, we want to have it reduced from 20 and 35 percent, at the same percentage as Germany.

Got it. The greedy are getting greedier and feeling like they deserve it.

Entitlement is a bitch goddess and will kill you people. Don't do it.

How is it greed to want to keep the fruits of your own labor.

you don't operate in a vacuum. The society in which you are allowed to thrive doesn't just magically work. If you don't pay your dues then get the fuck out of the club.

 

[rightwinger]

Okay.......I see where this is going........

The GOPer's want us all to reduce OUR tax rate by the same percentage that Germany has lowered theirs, only we won't start at Germany's rate of 29.8 or 45 percent, we want to have it reduced from 20 and 35 percent, at the same percentage as Germany.

Got it. The greedy are getting greedier and feeling like they deserve it.

Entitlement is a bitch goddess and will kill you people. Don't do it.

How is it greed to want to keep the fruits of your own labor.

Oh??

And the super wealthy got that way through their own labor?
It is the worker who wants to recapture what has been lost in his standard of living. salaries have not kept pace with housing, healthcare, education and energy costs. While worker salaries have stagnated, the percentage of wealth maintained by the top 5% has increased annually

 

[Sinatra]

Germany has been undergoing a decided transformation to a less stifling tax system.

Personal income taxes have been reduced.

Tax income exemption ceiling was raised.

Corporate tax rates slashed to 15% in 2008.

The VAT/consumption tax was raised - though that too is now being discussed.

The current government's primary focus has been to further free up German business so as to ensure job production and ultimately, increased tax revenues.

Chancellor Merkel also appears ready to embark on some serious government cost cutting measures - government waste within the German socialized system is immense.

The Germans are fearful of losing their status as the #1 economy in Europe, and the Merkel elections are clear indicators the German people want to free up German business and allow it to once again prosper...

,,,

 

[Sinatra]

And it should be noted that the Merkel elections were not simply support of Merkel and her more economically moderate CDU party, but rather the significantly increased support for the much more aggressively pro-business support of the FDP - which Merkel will now have to form a coalition government with, and by way of their victories, be required to accept much of the FDP's pro-business agenda. The FDP now dominates the once-powerful liberal Social Democrat Party in Germany.

The election was a near absolute repudiation of Germany's old socialist government power structure.

It might well prove a bellwether election that will sweep across Europe. The EU has already seen a decided shift toward more right of center political parties, and with the election of Europe's #1 economy, more such shifting could very well continue...

 

[KMAN]

Okay.......I see where this is going........

The GOPer's want us all to reduce OUR tax rate by the same percentage that Germany has lowered theirs, only we won't start at Germany's rate of 29.8 or 45 percent, we want to have it reduced from 20 and 35 percent, at the same percentage as Germany.

Got it. The greedy are getting greedier and feeling like they deserve it.

Entitlement is a bitch goddess and will kill you people. Don't do it.

How is it greed to want to keep the fruits of your own labor.

Amen brother.... Something the left will never understand... Wanting to keep your own money to support yourself instead of giving your money to someone else to have them tell you how to live...