Georgia has discovered the cure for poverty!

[Ray From Cleveland]

I guess liberal opposition to the Wall is to keep blacks on welfare.

Makes sense I guess.

Black Americans not on welfare vote for Democrats overwhelmingly.

Maybe, but blacks know little about politics or policies. It's just not a real interest to them.

The worst thing that could happen to the Democrat party is having politically educated blacks that understand what their party did to them over the years.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That would be believable yet, GOP members use welfare also.

Yes, there are Republicans that do use welfare, but they only use it because they have no choice. That's why they are not afraid of new regulations that weed out the people who are taking advantage of the system.

 

[Moonglow]

That would be believable yet, GOP members use welfare also.

Yes, there are Republicans that do use welfare, but they only use it because they have no choice. That's why they are not afraid of new regulations that weed out the people who are taking advantage of the system.

I could get SNAP, but I don't, it would only make me fatter, and I grow my food.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

That's exactly what Maine did, and they had better results than Georgia. Most of the childless able bodied people dropped out of the food stamp program.

 

[Moonglow]

Able body people should not get SNAP. I can remember being a young man that had a few financial hard times..We ate brown beans..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Able body people should not get SNAP. I can remember being a young man that had a few financial hard times..We ate brown beans..

I can remember those days as a youngster myself. That's when I started to become a conservative. I didn't make a lot of money and used to go to the grocery store to buy five pounds of ground beef to make hamburgers for the week. Maybe some spaghetti and sauce, and that was about it.

When I seen what people on food stamps were buying, I was outraged. I asked myself why are people who are not working eating better than people that were? The answer of course was Democrats and government.

Things haven't changed all that much with the exception that people today are not so candid about being on the dole. Today, they load the belt with their food stamp items, and then whip out a wad of cash to pay for those cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, huge bags of dog food, cat litter, greeting cards and so on.

Years ago it seemed like some people were ashamed of having to be on food stamps.

 

[Vandalshandle]

So, a single mother, with 2 preschool children would have to do what kind of work, while also watching her kids, in order to qualify for SNAP?

It's up to her to figure how to care for the children she birffed, not us
I know-personal responsibility is icky

i understand. You are saying that the kids, who have nothing to do with the circumstances of their birth, are not your problem, and you don't care if they go hungry.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So, a single mother, with 2 preschool children would have to do what kind of work, while also watching her kids, in order to qualify for SNAP?

It's up to her to figure how to care for the children she birffed, not us
I know-personal responsibility is icky

i understand. You are saying that the kids, who have nothing to do with the circumstances of their birth, are not your problem, and you don't care if they go hungry.

If they go hungry, they should be taken away from the mother and put up for adoption. One of the reasons people have kids they can't afford is because they know we taxpayers will go to work everyday and support them. Take that incentive away, and people will stop having children we have to pay for.

If it doesn't start somewhere, it will never end.

 

[IM2]

I guess liberal opposition to the Wall is to keep blacks on welfare.

Makes sense I guess.

Black Americans not on welfare vote for Democrats overwhelmingly.

Maybe, but blacks know little about politics or policies. It's just not a real interest to them.

The worst thing that could happen to the Democrat party is having politically educated blacks that understand what their party did to them over the years.

That's as stupid a comment as I have ever seen.

We don't vote republican because we do know and understand policy dipshit!

 

[IM2]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

 

[IM2]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

You're a dumb ass Ray. I worked with people in the welfare system for 32 years. Not one case of what you said occurred.

There are not many who do what you have claimed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

You're a dumb ass Ray. I worked with people in the welfare system for 32 years. Not one case of what you said occurred.

There are not many who do what you have claimed.

Oh, like they'd tell you about their plots. So what you are telling me is all these supervisors fed me a line of bull? I didn't have to evict my tenant because of food stamp? I don't see them at my grocery store buying food with the card, and then buying cigarettes, alcohol, huge bags of dog food and cat litter with cash? I never experienced all these things?

You leftists live in your own little bubble, that's for sure.

 

[IM2]

Listen dumb ****, do you know what the working poor is. Do you know that there are people working two jobs who cant feed their families?

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

You're a dumb ass Ray. I worked with people in the welfare system for 32 years. Not one case of what you said occurred.

There are not many who do what you have claimed.

Oh, like they'd tell you about their plots. So what you are telling me is all these supervisors fed me a line of bull? I didn't have to evict my tenant because of food stamp? I don't see them at my grocery store buying food with the card, and then buying cigarettes, alcohol, huge bags of dog food and cat litter with cash? I never experienced all these things?

You leftists live in your own little bubble, that's for sure.

You are a dumb ass Ray. It doesn't happen like you say. I worked with people on he system training them to get jobs fool. We were a separate agency contracting out services to SRS in our state. I saw directly how people were working very hard to get off food stamps Ray. Many people are not the ones who came to your store. A few did. You can't buy pet food with food stamps Ray. So now are poor folks on food stamps not allowed to have a pet? You can't buy cigarettes or alcohol with food stamps Ray. So now poor people on food stamps can't smoke or have a drink either? Seems like these people were not playing the system but doing the right thing Ray. Your story amounts to a load of crap.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That is mostly incoherent gibberish. In any case it matters little who is responsible for day care. The fact is that it is unaffordable for many.

Interesting how you focus on day care and ignore my remarks about the elderly, the disabled and the fact that this policy will in no way wipe out poverty

There is already social security and disability (SSI) . Why do libs think there should be 5 or more programs to make their standard of living better than mine?

Many states DO handle the childcare issue. Why doesn't yours or why don't you know about it?

You are still not addressing the issue of food stamps and not making a damned bit of sense. People on food assistance are in need despite other programs and you are just glossing that over.

No, you are ignoring the fact that these "cuts" are projected savings from requiring people to work instead of sucking the government teat instead of getting off their asses and earn their keep.

No Sparky YOU are ignoring and deflecting away from my point about the needs of people who can't work for various reasons. You are as cruel and heartless as Trump. Or just stupid. Which is it?

OK. Let's try this ONE more time. I realize that you are not the brightest bulb in the marquee, so here goes!

If they can't work, they are on disability. If they are too old, they are on Social Security. Those on neither will probably see no change unless they have been sucking the government teat while being fully capable of working or attending job training classes. Unfortunately, there are far too many of them as the stats in this thread have shown.

Are you so ******* out of touch with reality as to believe that people on disability or SS never need additional assistance if they have no other source of income? Someday you might find out. The hard way.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Do you know there are many who only work a certain amount of hours so they don't lose their free food stamps? We have customers that use temporary services for help. When things get busy and they ask the temps if they could work overtime, many of them refuse. Why? Because if they make too much money in a month, that gets deducted from their food stamp allowance.

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

You're a dumb ass Ray. I worked with people in the welfare system for 32 years. Not one case of what you said occurred.

There are not many who do what you have claimed.

Oh, like they'd tell you about their plots. So what you are telling me is all these supervisors fed me a line of bull? I didn't have to evict my tenant because of food stamp? I don't see them at my grocery store buying food with the card, and then buying cigarettes, alcohol, huge bags of dog food and cat litter with cash? I never experienced all these things?

You leftists live in your own little bubble, that's for sure.

You are a dumb ass Ray. It doesn't happen like you say. I worked with people on he system training them to get jobs fool. We were a separate agency contracting out services to SRS in our state. I saw directly how people were working very hard to get off food stamps Ray. Many people are not the ones who came to your store. A few did. You can't buy pet food with food stamps Ray. So now are poor folks on food stamps not allowed to have a pet? You can't buy cigarettes or alcohol with food stamps Ray. So now poor people on food stamps can't smoke or have a drink either? Seems like these people were not playing the system but doing the right thing Ray. Your story amounts to a load of crap.

Ray really is a dumb ****. I too have experience with public assistance. I worked in a county welfare agency for 5 years. I know how badly people wanted to work and how they struggles to make that assistance check and food stamps last for a month. I also know how badly they were treated by many of the welfare workers who hade a good deal of disdain for them. For a time I worked as an auditor tasked with uncovering fraud, What I found was clients being cheated by workers more often than fraud on the part of the recipients.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is already social security and disability (SSI) . Why do libs think there should be 5 or more programs to make their standard of living better than mine?

Many states DO handle the childcare issue. Why doesn't yours or why don't you know about it?

You are still not addressing the issue of food stamps and not making a damned bit of sense. People on food assistance are in need despite other programs and you are just glossing that over.

No, you are ignoring the fact that these "cuts" are projected savings from requiring people to work instead of sucking the government teat instead of getting off their asses and earn their keep.

No Sparky YOU are ignoring and deflecting away from my point about the needs of people who can't work for various reasons. You are as cruel and heartless as Trump. Or just stupid. Which is it?

OK. Let's try this ONE more time. I realize that you are not the brightest bulb in the marquee, so here goes!

If they can't work, they are on disability. If they are too old, they are on Social Security. Those on neither will probably see no change unless they have been sucking the government teat while being fully capable of working or attending job training classes. Unfortunately, there are far too many of them as the stats in this thread have shown.

Are you so ******* out of touch with reality as to believe that people on disability or SS never need additional assistance if they have no other source of income? Someday you might find out. The hard way.

People who are on disability or on social security that are incapable of working will not lose their food stamps. We have covered that ground about ten times in this thread, but the liberal ignorance is strong in you!

The changes take away food stamps from people who are able-bodied but refuse to work or attend job training programs.

Can you please push the "I believe" button and stop with the hysterics and lies?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are a dumb ass Ray. It doesn't happen like you say. I worked with people on he system training them to get jobs fool. We were a separate agency contracting out services to SRS in our state. I saw directly how people were working very hard to get off food stamps Ray. Many people are not the ones who came to your store. A few did. You can't buy pet food with food stamps Ray. So now are poor folks on food stamps not allowed to have a pet? You can't buy cigarettes or alcohol with food stamps Ray. So now poor people on food stamps can't smoke or have a drink either? Seems like these people were not playing the system but doing the right thing Ray. Your story amounts to a load of crap.

You have a real comprehension problem, don't you? I said they USE CASH for those items.

While we are paying to feed them, they are using their money to feed their stupid animals while smoking a carton of cigarettes and getting drunk; probably laughing it up with their friends on their Obama phone.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No there aren't many who do that.

mean just look at that comment and wonder just how ignorant a person has t be in order to actually believe something like this.

"Oh no boss, don't give me 40 hours and don't give me a raise, I just want to work 10 and keep making the minimum so I can get food stamps."

You don't want to believe it because it bursts your bubble. But I've been delivering to industry for over 25 years, and I've seen it happen multiple times. Less than two years ago, I evicted a family because of food stamps. They kept getting further and further behind on rent, but the mother of the children didn't want to get a job because it would have screwed up her stipend.

Because it went through the courts, he has a record of eviction (I put the lease in his name) that any future landlord can find. I garnished his wages for nearly a year. One of my other tenants still hangs around with the couple, and she told me the place he lives in now is a real shit hole. It's about half the size of the place they had here and the landlord takes minimum care of it. For what? Food stamps.

You're a dumb ass Ray. I worked with people in the welfare system for 32 years. Not one case of what you said occurred.

There are not many who do what you have claimed.

Oh, like they'd tell you about their plots. So what you are telling me is all these supervisors fed me a line of bull? I didn't have to evict my tenant because of food stamp? I don't see them at my grocery store buying food with the card, and then buying cigarettes, alcohol, huge bags of dog food and cat litter with cash? I never experienced all these things?

You leftists live in your own little bubble, that's for sure.

You are a dumb ass Ray. It doesn't happen like you say. I worked with people on he system training them to get jobs fool. We were a separate agency contracting out services to SRS in our state. I saw directly how people were working very hard to get off food stamps Ray. Many people are not the ones who came to your store. A few did. You can't buy pet food with food stamps Ray. So now are poor folks on food stamps not allowed to have a pet? You can't buy cigarettes or alcohol with food stamps Ray. So now poor people on food stamps can't smoke or have a drink either? Seems like these people were not playing the system but doing the right thing Ray. Your story amounts to a load of crap.

Ray really is a dumb ****. I too have experience with public assistance. I worked in a county welfare agency for 5 years. I know how badly people wanted to work and how they struggles to make that assistance check and food stamps last for a month. I also know how badly they were treated by many of the welfare workers who hade a good deal of disdain for them. Foe a time I worked as an auditor tasked with uncovering fraud, What I found was clients being cheated by workers more often that fraud on the part of the recipients.

You're the stupid ****. You worked in a system that they are taking advantage of, and you expect them to tell you how they are getting away with it?

They really want jobs? Tell them to come here and go to any industrial area, they are all loaded with HELP WANTED signs. Some of our customers can't find people to take their jobs. Do they really need a job? Send them our way. The US needs over 60,000 new tractor-trailer drivers that they can't find. Some will not only train you for the job, but pay you while you learn. Our industry is so desperate right now they are hiring foreigners to take these jobs, and they are terrible drivers to boot.