George Floyd was a criminal.

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

If true the drug addict should have died then
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.


you are SOOOOOO missing the point.

in the freedom loving constitutional USA Floyd should have been restrained, put in the car, taken to jail, TRIED and then dealt with.....


in RUSSIA and N KOREA or CONSERVATIVE freedom-HATING America cops just kill blacks for the heck of it.....NO TRIAL.....
You’re missing the point. He should never have been a free man. Locked up for life. Why was he free?
Prison for life? Your prejudice is reaching record levels.
Oh cripes yer another heartfelt dumbass with that stupid black avatar.... lmao

Another loser
Yep and she never cared when African Americans were killing each other at record rates in Chicago. But now she is "woke". The hypocrisy is insane.
That one is the consumate left loon.

No values just goes with any left loon agenda...weak little sheeple
Absolutely. Which is fine. But she is also a giant hypocrite.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Now now you should have had FREE college!!!!

Free meaning hard working Americans paying for it
My grad school was free as my employer paid for it. Shame on me....
Your employer paid you a benefit.

Huge difference from demands of free college from snot nosed brats that haven't earned it
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Now now you should have had FREE college!!!!

Free meaning hard working Americans paying for it
My grad school was free as my employer paid for it. Shame on me....
Your employer paid you a benefit.

Huge difference from demands of free college from snot nosed brats that haven't earned it
Correct. But they didn't go to class for me while working. I did that!
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Northeastern, my mistake. So when you were young, your parents weren’t successful?
We lived in 2-bedroom apt. My dad was taking English classes, my mom was in dental school. We lived off donations from HIAS. By the time I was 9 they were better and purchased a house but they were in a lot of debt. By the time I was 20 they paid off debt, my mom was part of a successful dental practice, my dad was running a team of engineers and since then they have paid back HIAS 10x what they received and have sponsored numerous other Jewish families who wanted to come here. I never went on an expensive vacation in my childhood life. First time I saw Disney, I was 17 and went with my HS classmates post graduation. I had to work every summer and had to take out loans for school. There was no privilege. Only privilege is in your mind. Try growing up with an ethnic name. People don't need to see your skin color they can judge you w/o even meeting you. None of that bothers me. Its life.
Sounds like you had excellent support from your community. I’m glad that was available to you and your parents.
HIAS is not a community. African Americans can create that same organization. We have many wealthy African Americans. Why don't they do that?
You’re Jewish, are you not? I thought that was a community.
I am Jewish. HIAS is a Jewish non profit organization not some "community". African Americans may start one too. A lot more African Americans than Jews. LeBron has a lot of wealth. So does MJ. Oprah. Russell Simmons. Have them start a similar organization and help those in need?

HIAS is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. HIAS was established in 1881 to aid Jewish refugees.
Yes, your community. You had support from your community. The Jewish community. It’s great.

The African American population is bigger, but it’s less wealthy by a substantial amount. The needs are greater, the wealth is less. Not that members of that community haven’t been trying.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
Sounds great. But our cities are highly segregated. Our schools are highly segregated. Our lives are highly segregated. Integration has not gone well.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Northeastern, my mistake. So when you were young, your parents weren’t successful?
We lived in 2-bedroom apt. My dad was taking English classes, my mom was in dental school. We lived off donations from HIAS. By the time I was 9 they were better and purchased a house but they were in a lot of debt. By the time I was 20 they paid off debt, my mom was part of a successful dental practice, my dad was running a team of engineers and since then they have paid back HIAS 10x what they received and have sponsored numerous other Jewish families who wanted to come here. I never went on an expensive vacation in my childhood life. First time I saw Disney, I was 17 and went with my HS classmates post graduation. I had to work every summer and had to take out loans for school. There was no privilege. Only privilege is in your mind. Try growing up with an ethnic name. People don't need to see your skin color they can judge you w/o even meeting you. None of that bothers me. Its life.
Sounds like you had excellent support from your community. I’m glad that was available to you and your parents.
HIAS is not a community. African Americans can create that same organization. We have many wealthy African Americans. Why don't they do that?
You’re Jewish, are you not? I thought that was a community.
I am Jewish. HIAS is a Jewish non profit organization not some "community". African Americans may start one too. A lot more African Americans than Jews. LeBron has a lot of wealth. So does MJ. Oprah. Russell Simmons. Have them start a similar organization and help those in need?

HIAS is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. HIAS was established in 1881 to aid Jewish refugees.
Yes, your community. You had support from your community. The Jewish community. It’s great.

The African American population is bigger, but it’s less wealthy by a substantial amount. The needs are greater, the wealth is less. Not that members of that community haven’t been trying.
I mentioned several wealthy persons. Difference is the Jewish community is global and we don't kill one another.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
Sounds great. But our cities are highly segregated. Our schools are highly segregated. Our lives are highly segregated. Integration has not gone well.
Then vote in different politicians. Elijah Cummings represented Baltimore for 40+ years and Baltimore remains a disgrace. Democrats run big cities. Maybe that should change and it should be bi-partisan?
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Northeastern, my mistake. So when you were young, your parents weren’t successful?
We lived in 2-bedroom apt. My dad was taking English classes, my mom was in dental school. We lived off donations from HIAS. By the time I was 9 they were better and purchased a house but they were in a lot of debt. By the time I was 20 they paid off debt, my mom was part of a successful dental practice, my dad was running a team of engineers and since then they have paid back HIAS 10x what they received and have sponsored numerous other Jewish families who wanted to come here. I never went on an expensive vacation in my childhood life. First time I saw Disney, I was 17 and went with my HS classmates post graduation. I had to work every summer and had to take out loans for school. There was no privilege. Only privilege is in your mind. Try growing up with an ethnic name. People don't need to see your skin color they can judge you w/o even meeting you. None of that bothers me. Its life.
Sounds like you had excellent support from your community. I’m glad that was available to you and your parents.
HIAS is not a community. African Americans can create that same organization. We have many wealthy African Americans. Why don't they do that?
You’re Jewish, are you not? I thought that was a community.
I am Jewish. HIAS is a Jewish non profit organization not some "community". African Americans may start one too. A lot more African Americans than Jews. LeBron has a lot of wealth. So does MJ. Oprah. Russell Simmons. Have them start a similar organization and help those in need?

HIAS is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. HIAS was established in 1881 to aid Jewish refugees.
Yes, your community. You had support from your community. The Jewish community. It’s great.

The African American population is bigger, but it’s less wealthy by a substantial amount. The needs are greater, the wealth is less. Not that members of that community haven’t been trying.
I mentioned several wealthy persons. Difference is the Jewish community is global and we don't kill one another.
There’s many differences. Many, many differences.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
Sounds great. But our cities are highly segregated. Our schools are highly segregated. Our lives are highly segregated. Integration has not gone well.
Then vote in different politicians. Elijah Cummings represented Baltimore for 40+ years and Baltimore remains a disgrace. Democrats run big cities. Maybe that should change and it should be bi-partisan?
Because it’s a social problem, not a government one for the most part. Cummins can’t make white people live in black neighborhoods.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Now now you should have had FREE college!!!!

Free meaning hard working Americans paying for it
My grad school was free as my employer paid for it. Shame on me....
Your employer paid you a benefit.

Huge difference from demands of free college from snot nosed brats that haven't earned it
Correct. But they didn't go to class for me while working. I did that!
Our three oldest girls have eached been offered academic scholarships, not full rides but huge help in tution because they have focused on academics. Two will attend Indiana University and one is weighing between the USAF Academy and Notre Dame.

No doubt you did that...and so did they.

My problem is with that those that don't earn it but expect and demand it.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Northeastern, my mistake. So when you were young, your parents weren’t successful?
We lived in 2-bedroom apt. My dad was taking English classes, my mom was in dental school. We lived off donations from HIAS. By the time I was 9 they were better and purchased a house but they were in a lot of debt. By the time I was 20 they paid off debt, my mom was part of a successful dental practice, my dad was running a team of engineers and since then they have paid back HIAS 10x what they received and have sponsored numerous other Jewish families who wanted to come here. I never went on an expensive vacation in my childhood life. First time I saw Disney, I was 17 and went with my HS classmates post graduation. I had to work every summer and had to take out loans for school. There was no privilege. Only privilege is in your mind. Try growing up with an ethnic name. People don't need to see your skin color they can judge you w/o even meeting you. None of that bothers me. Its life.
Sounds like you had excellent support from your community. I’m glad that was available to you and your parents.
HIAS is not a community. African Americans can create that same organization. We have many wealthy African Americans. Why don't they do that?
You’re Jewish, are you not? I thought that was a community.
I am Jewish. HIAS is a Jewish non profit organization not some "community". African Americans may start one too. A lot more African Americans than Jews. LeBron has a lot of wealth. So does MJ. Oprah. Russell Simmons. Have them start a similar organization and help those in need?

HIAS is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. HIAS was established in 1881 to aid Jewish refugees.
Yes, your community. You had support from your community. The Jewish community. It’s great.

The African American population is bigger, but it’s less wealthy by a substantial amount. The needs are greater, the wealth is less. Not that members of that community haven’t been trying.
I mentioned several wealthy persons. Difference is the Jewish community is global and we don't kill one another.
There’s many differences. Many, many differences.
Primary one is we don't kill each other.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
Sounds great. But our cities are highly segregated. Our schools are highly segregated. Our lives are highly segregated. Integration has not gone well.
Then vote in different politicians. Elijah Cummings represented Baltimore for 40+ years and Baltimore remains a disgrace. Democrats run big cities. Maybe that should change and it should be bi-partisan?
Because it’s a social problem, not a government one for the most part. Cummins can’t make white people live in black neighborhoods.
He could have built charter schools. He could have had more policing. Why in your view are white people superior to black people? Black people don't need white people to move into their neighborhoods for the neighborhoods to be successful but many successful black people leave. Magic Johnson doesn't live in Compton.
 
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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Now now you should have had FREE college!!!!

Free meaning hard working Americans paying for it
My grad school was free as my employer paid for it. Shame on me....
Your employer paid you a benefit.

Huge difference from demands of free college from snot nosed brats that haven't earned it
Correct. But they didn't go to class for me while working. I did that!
Our three oldest girls have eached been offered academic scholarships, not full rides but huge help in tution because they have focused on academics. Two will attend Indiana University and one is weighing between the USAF Academy and Notre Dame.

No doubt you did that...and so did they.

My problem is with that those that don't earn it but expect and demand it.
Thats because they are white and privileged and were born with silver spoons. You're insensitive to the plight of the less privileged aka not "woke". You should donate all your money to a charity and live in a tent. WAKE UP!
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Northeastern, my mistake. So when you were young, your parents weren’t successful?
We lived in 2-bedroom apt. My dad was taking English classes, my mom was in dental school. We lived off donations from HIAS. By the time I was 9 they were better and purchased a house but they were in a lot of debt. By the time I was 20 they paid off debt, my mom was part of a successful dental practice, my dad was running a team of engineers and since then they have paid back HIAS 10x what they received and have sponsored numerous other Jewish families who wanted to come here. I never went on an expensive vacation in my childhood life. First time I saw Disney, I was 17 and went with my HS classmates post graduation. I had to work every summer and had to take out loans for school. There was no privilege. Only privilege is in your mind. Try growing up with an ethnic name. People don't need to see your skin color they can judge you w/o even meeting you. None of that bothers me. Its life.
Sounds like you had excellent support from your community. I’m glad that was available to you and your parents.
HIAS is not a community. African Americans can create that same organization. We have many wealthy African Americans. Why don't they do that?
You’re Jewish, are you not? I thought that was a community.
I am Jewish. HIAS is a Jewish non profit organization not some "community". African Americans may start one too. A lot more African Americans than Jews. LeBron has a lot of wealth. So does MJ. Oprah. Russell Simmons. Have them start a similar organization and help those in need?

HIAS is a Jewish American nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid and assistance to refugees. HIAS was established in 1881 to aid Jewish refugees.
Yes, your community. You had support from your community. The Jewish community. It’s great.

The African American population is bigger, but it’s less wealthy by a substantial amount. The needs are greater, the wealth is less. Not that members of that community haven’t been trying.
I mentioned several wealthy persons. Difference is the Jewish community is global and we don't kill one another.
There’s many differences. Many, many differences.
Primary one is we don't kill each other.
Yeah, it does a little bit deeper than that.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
Since when does hard work and grit equate to "privilege"? Do tell.
The successful often overestimate their own abilities and hard work as being the sole cause of their success.

It’s an ego thing.
Then what is it? Luck? My dad didn't speak English well. My mom was in dental school. Eventually they did very well but it took around 20 years. I moved out when I was 17. I also had to grow up with a very ethnic Jewish name, that played real well down south....

If you use race and privilege as the only cards then you're missing out. I ask again, are LeBron James' kids privileged?
Success isn’t born just of hard work. It’s born of community, of upbringing, and a lot of luck. Many other factors I can’t think off the top of my head. I grew up in rural nowhere without wealth but I know I had privileges. Hard work is almost always necessary. It’s rarely sufficient.

Sure, anyone born of wealth has some privilege. But race presents advantages as well. To me, it’s undeniable. Lebron’s kids may have wealth, but any young black person can tell you society assumes certain things about people that they don’t assume about others. Black people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in the same way others are.
Depends where. On a playground those kids thrive. My kids have zero prejudices (they are 10 and 12). To them a kid with two moms or two dads is normal. My 10-year old's BFF comes from a bi-racial HH and her dad is my very good friend. You make up these odd views but in real life, people are just people.
Our social structure reinforces these prejudices. Think about how much exposure your kids have to poor black people their age. Do they go to school with them? Hang out with them? Is your 10 year old’s BFF father successful like yourself?
He is a police officer. He takes the girls down to Roxbury and Lawrence to show them how the less fortunate have to grind. We also coach hoops together and run an AAU squad. We try to make a difference at a very young age.
Sounds great. But our cities are highly segregated. Our schools are highly segregated. Our lives are highly segregated. Integration has not gone well.
Then vote in different politicians. Elijah Cummings represented Baltimore for 40+ years and Baltimore remains a disgrace. Democrats run big cities. Maybe that should change and it should be bi-partisan?
Because it’s a social problem, not a government one for the most part. Cummins can’t make white people live in black neighborhoods.
He could have built charter schools. He could have had more policing. Why in your view are white people superior to black people? Black people don't need white people to move into their neighborhoods for the neighborhoods to be successful but many successful black people leave. Magic Johnson doesn't live in Compton.
Because charter schools and policing aren’t sufficient to solve the problem. You’re being way to simple about this. Way to simple.
 

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There's nothing worse than white people who will not try to understand how evil and twisted they are.
They are the worst! If only we could rid the world of white people.
I mean ALL the white people! What a heaven on earth life would be then.
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

Shhhhh! They're trying to keep that a secret.

The guy SHOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED THAT DAY.

Karma caught up with him 5 years later
 

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I did not know that he pointed a loaded gun on the belly of a pregnant woman while his accomplices robbed her and then pistol whipped her. This is the “hero” of BLM? Come on. He didn’t deserve to die the way he did but he is far from a hero. And now our cities burn and police officers are vilified. Very sad. Very illogical. 99% of police officers are great people.

99% of protesters are good people by their get vilified.

See how that works?
100% of protesters are good people. 100% of looters and rioters are bad people and should be vilified. See how that works?
That’s not how the right is seeing the issue.
Protesting peacefully is a right just like the right to bear arms. Looting, burning, maiming and killing is bad. But these people pretend they are protesters so the lines are blurry. They aren't protesters. They are sick in the head "WOKE" opportunists.
99% of the people out there this week were peaceful protestors wanting to fight system problems in society. You are a child of privilege living in elite neighborhoods. You’re about isolated and out of touch as one could be.
You’re twisting the narrative. I am a child of immigrants who came here with nothing. Our operational definition of “privilege” differs and most of the rioters are white kids. Likely privileged by your definition and you’re making up the 99% number.
Your parents didn’t grow up with privilege. You did.

Did you make up the 99% number in your original post?
I never Said 99%. You did.
You have no idea how I grew up. You assume privilege based solely on skin color. So are LeBron James kids, “privileged”?
You feeling okay? You can’t even remember what you typed a few hours ago.

99% of police officers are great people.
Lebron’s kids certainly are privileged in many ways. Based on everything you’ve said, you are a product of privilege.
I thought you meant protesters. Sorry. I meant 99.9%. If they weren’t we would have a lawless country of rapes and murders.
That makes no sense. You’re being quite illogical.
What doesn’t make sense is you not vilifying George for his prior actions and admitting he was not a good guy.
His past certainly was bad. He made a lot of mistakes. Some egregious.

He did time in prison. Moved halfway across the country and hadn’t had trouble for about a decade. I won’t give up on people. I want them to be able to get better when they haven’t been.
You don’t have kids. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant woman’s belly, robs her and then pistol whips her should be in jail for life IMO. Despicable act. The act the media doesn’t cover.
You don’t know much about me so don’t pretend you do.

A despicable act to be sure. But the death penalty for such an act is insane.
Yet you tell me I am privileged consistently and you know as much about me. We all make educated guesses.
I know exactly what you’ve said about your parents. You’ve said they’ve attained high educational status and substantial wealth, have they not?

You claimed you earn an income that puts you around the top 1% of the nation and live in an extremely wealthy neighborhood. Correct?

You’ve also said your parents have achieved many times more success than you have, which is substantial given your own personal success.

So yeah, I conclude you are a product of privilege.
By the time they achieved that "success" I was out on my own. It didn't happen overnight.
Fair enough. You also went to elite private colleges. Duke and Northwestern aren’t cheap. Did you also go to private primary or secondary schools?
Northeastern not Northwestern. No, I went to public schools. I got in there because of grades and SATs, GMATs. My parents both worked. They didn't have time to coddle me. I walked to and from school all the time. Did my own HW and rode my bike to sports practices and games.
Now now you should have had FREE college!!!!

Free meaning hard working Americans paying for it
My grad school was free as my employer paid for it. Shame on me....
Your employer paid you a benefit.

Huge difference from demands of free college from snot nosed brats that haven't earned it
Correct. But they didn't go to class for me while working. I did that!
Our three oldest girls have eached been offered academic scholarships, not full rides but huge help in tution because they have focused on academics. Two will attend Indiana University and one is weighing between the USAF Academy and Notre Dame.

No doubt you did that...and so did they.

My problem is with that those that don't earn it but expect and demand it.
I think few of us understand the hardships that poor individuals in the black community have to face.
 

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