I need to start remembering which religion each of you belong to. I've had Christians cry that I only pick on Christians when the fact is, I try to use the other religions to prove to Christians just how dumb their religion is. I just assume they agree with me that the other religions are crap. But that's not even the case. We also have people who call themselves Christians but they don't believe non Christians are going to hell. So they are basically liberal cherry picking christian apologists. Then we have born agains who think even non born again christians are going to hell. You could be one of those. Or a Mormon who too thinks all other Christians are lost. And where are all the Muslims and Jews chiming in on their proof/reasons why God exists? Seems like most of the people on USMB either believe in Generic God, the Christian God or the Christian Light God.
What kind of Theist are you?
On our side we have two kinds of atheists. Agnostics who aren't sure and us who are pretty sure no god exists. Based on the evidence we see. Oh and by the way, how come theists don't get offended as much with Agnostics who basically aren't convinced after hearing all the evidence? Theists only seem to get mad when we determine what we are hearing is HORSE SHIT! LOL
Dear sealybobo
I am a Universalist and a Constitutionalist where I try my best to include all people's views equally.
I do believe in reaching an agreement in CHRIST or by conscience,
using free will and reason and applying the same faith in forgiveness as taught in Christianity.
I believe this will bring unity first in spirit among people coming together in heart and mind,
and then once we have unity on that level, we can organize politically by parties and diverse groups
to resovle each and every issue one by one, instead of lumping these together and attacking by party which is failing.
So I have the faith of a Christian and can express it and defend it that way when addressing fellow Christians.
I believe the same spirit of Truth and Justice that God and Jesus represents
also fulfill the Natural Laws in our Constitutional Principles and Ethics (including
Due process, right to petition to redress grievances, equal protection of the laws
from discrimination by creed, and consent of the governed by mediating conflicts to reach
a consensus especially where political or religious beliefs cannot be changed but must be
accommodated equally if we are going to enforce Constitutional equal protections and inclusion)
So the best way I can explain this is if you took the spirit of Christianity
but applied it to fulfilling Constitutional laws and including "all people under natural laws"
then that is what I believe in. Not everyone responds to the Bible and God taught that way.
But I have never met a human being who didn't believe in
* their free will or free choice and "free exercise of religion"
* their free speech and free press to petition for redress of grievances
* their right of assemble and association without being suppressed censored denied or attacked
* their right to equal protection of these rights and freedoms
The problem is people don't agree to defend these equally for others who attack and threaten them.
So that is where conflict resolution is necessary to prevent people from abridging each other's equal rights.
We keep expecting Govt or political leaders/parties to "protect this for us"
while we violate each other's rights by threatening to block their beliefs, and wonder why we get that
same reaction in return.
So mostly I focus on trying to establish mutual respect for due process
between people directly, and quit this business of accusing others as guilty or wrong
until proven right, which is backwards.
We all want to assume we are right until proven wrong, but don't extend the same courtesy
to others we assume are wrong until proven otherwise. That battle to establish some respect
for equal due process is the first step. If we can agree to work things out, then
there isn't a problem or conflict on this earth that we cannot take on and solve together.
We just have to quit fighting each other long enough to find what
we DO agree is a better solution, and all our resources can be focused there instead of fighting.
So I see this battle being fought locally, and if we can get
on the same team, then our diversity of approaches can work for us
instead of against us. Thus I believe in universal salvation,
in peace and justice for all, by correction, prevention and restitution
for all past problems and working together to build a sustainable future.
Thanks for being here and pushing in the right direction.
Towards higher truth and universal inclusion
that everyone can align with to help piece together solutions
that take all of contributing our best ideas and aspirations.
