Gawd, Let us talk about fraud: Chemists have partly unlocked the recipe by creating a complex compound essential to all life — in a lab

[Manonthestreet]

So you disagree with scientific facts. What else is new?

notice: facts

Earth - NASA Science

Your home. Our Mission.And the one planet that NASA studies more than any other.

science.nasa.gov

facts/

Facts....try superstitious suppositions

 

[Seymour Flops]

You people hate science. We know. It's okay. Ignorance is bliss.

Yeah.

This is exactly like Crick. Post some article they found in a popular science magazine as if to start a discussion, and then personally attack anyone who tries to engage in a discussion, rather than actually debating them.

We don't need two of them. Don't really need one.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You people hate science. We know. It's okay. Ignorance is bliss.

Evolution is not science.

The odd are absolutely insurmountable that atoms and molecules RANDOMLY formed these compounds.

The odd against it is a number with thousands of zeros to 1.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Evolution is not science.

The odd are absolutely insurmountable that atoms and molecules RANDOMLY formed these compounds.

The odd against it is a number with thousands of zeros to 1.

They're called odds and mutations are naturally selected to promote life, not randomness.

 

[Stryder50]

"When the solar system settled into its current layout about 4.5 billion years ago, Earth formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. Like its fellow terrestrial planets, Earth has a central core, a rocky mantle, and a solid crust."

Facts About Earth

Earth is the third planet from the Sun, and the fifth largest planet. It's the only place we know of inhabited by living things.

science.nasa.gov

Science.

Except that "solid crust" consists of several tectonic plates that move about against each other creating subduction zones and expansion zones with mountain ranges and deep trenches, along with volcanoes and earthquakes. The whole structure looks to have resulted from a large impact event a few billion years ago.

Those tectonic plates are of two types. Relatively thin but very dense oceanic and thicker but less dense continental. The volcanoes and earthquakes partly the result of that "rocky mantle" being rather hot and molten in it's upper layers.

Earth tends to be a bit different than those other "terrestrial planets".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They're called odds and mutations are naturally selected to promote life, not randomness.

Odds and promoting Life are mutually exclusive.

It’s a poker game with nothing at stake, all hands are equal, all results are equal

If the molecule are inorganic and unaware how and why would they “promote life”?

 

[Votto]

You people hate science. We know. It's okay. Ignorance is bliss.

Science? Why did you not say so?

 

[ReinyDays]

Pretty funny stuff ... methane will evolve into ethane in a rather short period of time, minutes ... give it a year and we'll get propane, butane, pentane, maybe even hexane ... just random collisions and the nature of carbon ...

Chemistry 101 ... esp. redox ... ethane plus ammonia in a water solution always yields amino acids in a reducing environment ... look it up yourself ... just one molar mass and we have near certainty ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

Odds and promoting Life are mutually exclusive.

You've learned they're called "odds." Yw.

It’s a poker game with nothing at stake, all hands are equal, all results are equal

Argue against your previous unsupported assertion, why don't ya.

If the molecule are inorganic and unaware how and why would they “promote life”?

It's molecules and you provide no reason for simply presuming them inorganic.

Organic describes things that are natural or related to nature.

Given material and energy, entropy clearly favors diverse life over unnatural, inorganic boredom.

Natural Selection: A theory proposed by Charles Darwin that suggests that individuals with traits advantageous for their environment are more likely to survive and reproduce, passing on these traits to their offspring.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You've learned they're called "odds." Yw.

Argue against your previous unsupported assertion, why don't ya.

It's molecules and you provide no reason for simply presuming them inorganic.

Given material and energy, entropy clearly favors diverse life over unnatural, inorganic boredom.

Molecules are organic? Are you saying they are self-aware and favor Life? You make it sounds as if they are directed

You see the problem in assuming that life is random, right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

For the Evolution is random crowd, here's the odds of properly aligning just 52 molecules

 

[Grumblenuts]

Molecules are organic?

Yes, molecules are either organic or inorganic. Google it if you don't believe me, Einstein.

Are you saying they are self-aware and favor Life?

No. Google entropy.. a natural force. Apply concept to things like "covalent bonding", "copying errors" (i.e., "mutation"), and Natural Selection.

You make it sounds as if they are directed

You make it sound like English is not your usual language.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes, molecules are either organic or inorganic. Google it if you don't believe me, Einstein.

No. Google entropy.. a natural force. Apply concept to things like "covalent bonding", "copying errors" (i.e., "mutation"), and Natural Selection.

You make it sound like English is not your usual language.

We mean different things by organic, I mean life. In your worldview are molecules self-aware?

Natural selection is a fiction derived from Evolution; it's like listening to a canvas explain what Monet or VanGogh did to it

 

[Grumblenuts]

We mean different things by organic, I mean life.

As I said, I mean "things that are natural or related to nature" because that's all "organic" really means to most people. I took courses labelled "Organic" and "Inorganic." None called "Life" or "Nonlife." Carbon based, covalently bonded molecules for the most part.

In your worldview are molecules self-aware?

No. Like everything, molecules are controlled by "natural" (as opposed to unnatural) forces.

Natural selection is a fiction derived from Evolution; it's like listening to a canvas explain what Monet or VanGogh did to it

Indubitably, and those magic beans you bought will help get you to a giant's house in the clouds some day..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

As I said, I mean "things that are natural or related to nature" because that's all "organic" really means to most people. I took courses labelled "Organic" and "Inorganic." None called "Life" or "Nonlife." Carbon based, covalently bonded molecules for the most part.

No. Like everything, molecules are controlled by "natural" (as opposed to unnatural) forces.

Indubitably, and those magic beans you bought will help get you to a giant's house in the clouds some day..

Controlled -- by nature? You mean nature has a design?

 

[Dante]

Facts....try superstitious suppositions

The Bible thumpers who hate science, or the Magatoids who hate any facts that show Trump up? Or both? Maybe more?

 

[Dante]

Yeah.

This is exactly like Crick. Post some article they found in a popular science magazine as if to start a discussion, and then personally attack anyone who tries to engage in a discussion, rather than actually debating them.

We don't need two of them. Don't really need one.

Engaging in discussion? So because some of do not suffer fools and tools glady, we're...what??

You obviously have some emotional issues with this Crick. I suggest you get a room and take it off of the boards.

 

[marvin martian]

How did life on Earth begin? Good gawd, the chemical puzzle of how life on Earth began has just became clearer. It's simply incredible. I've heard a few claims of how life on Earth began, but never any backed up by replicable scenarios. This is a game changer in so many areas and fields of debate.

Science! It exposes fraud(s).

How did life on Earth begin? The chemical puzzle just became clearer.

Researchers have successfully created a compound critical for metabolism in all living cells, which is essential for energy production and regulation.

web.archive.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/02/29/life-earth-origin-chemistry/

Washington Post, the same paper that claims vaccinated people can't get covid.

 

[Dante]

Evolution is not science.

The odd are absolutely insurmountable that atoms and molecules RANDOMLY formed these compounds.

The odd against it is a number with thousands of zeros to 1.

Lost people here: "Evolution is not science."

Science and evolution - PMC

Evolution is both a fact and a theory. Evolution is widely observable in laboratory and natural populations as they change over time. The fact that we need annual flu vaccines is one example of observable evolution. At the same time, evolutionary ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

Opponents of evolution want to make a place for creationism by tearing down real science, but their arguments don't hold up

www.scientificamerican.com

"For over four decades, we have worked to ensure that what is taught in science classrooms and beyond is accurate and consistent with the best current understanding of the scientific community." vs Frank's few decades of bullshit

Evolution: Fact and Theory | National Center for Science Education

ncse.ngo

 

[Dante]

Except that "solid crust" consists of several tectonic plates that move about against each other creating subduction zones and expansion zones with mountain ranges and deep trenches, along with volcanoes and earthquakes. The whole structure looks to have resulted from a large impact event a few billion years ago.

Those tectonic plates are of two types. Relatively thin but very dense oceanic and thicker but less dense continental. The volcanoes and earthquakes partly the result of that "rocky mantle" being rather hot and molten in it's upper layers.

Earth tends to be a bit different than those other "terrestrial planets".

Really? A bit? explain this 'a bit'