Gawd, Let us talk about fraud: Chemists have partly unlocked the recipe by creating a complex compound essential to all life — in a lab

[scruffy]

Yes, its one of the most tested laws in the sciences, the law of biogenesis, as well established as any of the other laws we have in physics.

Chemical bonding is biogenesis.

Life is a lot deeper than you give it credit for.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Chemical bonding is biogenesis.

 

[scruffy]

That's 100% expected coming from you.

What you don't know is nucleotides are just carbon and ammonia. And glycine is nylon. Look it up. It's called Nylon-2 in DuPont's vocabulary.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That's 100% expected coming from you.

What you don't know is nucleotides are just carbon and ammonia. And glycine is nylon. Look it up. It's called Nylon-2 in DuPont's vocabulary.

Its my only reaction to inanities like "Chemical bonding is biogenesis" and "chaos has nothing to do with determinism", these absurdities do not deserve to be taken seriously. If you want to be taken seriously don't speak as if your under the influence of LSD. It's stoned hippies that make these kinds of statements, a scientifically educated person never would.

 

[scruffy]

Its my only reaction to inanities like "Chemical bonding is biogenesis" and "chaos has nothing to do with determinism", these absurdities do not deserve to be taken seriously. If you want to be taken seriously don't speak as if your under the influence of LSD. It's stoned hippies that make these kinds of statements, a scientifically educated person never would.

I don't expect you to take me seriously.

I think you're incapable of taking science seriously.

You're an old dog and all you know is old tricks.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don't expect you to take me seriously.

I think you're incapable of taking science seriously.

You're an old dog and all you know is old tricks.

As you wish.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You just contradicted yourself, so I did need to state the obvious.

False. There was no contradiction.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, its one of the most tested laws in the sciences, the law of biogenesis, as well established as any of the other laws we have in physics.

No, it's a definition of a word. There is no such law, and you are saying very dumb things.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And once again the discussion turns into nothing but correcting the errors and falsehoods of deniers and trolls.

But that still does demonstrate their weakness of their positions.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

No, it's a definition of a word. There is no such law, and you are saying very dumb things.

It's law if no counter examples can be demonstrated just as Newton's laws of motion are laws because no counter examples can be demonstrated.

Look at the definition of law in science:

Scientific laws or laws of science are statements, based on repeated experiments or observations, that describe or predict a range of natural phenomena.[1]

Every time I observes a ball being thrown, it moves in a parabolic path through the air. Every time we see life emerge we can see it emerged from some already living thing.

Both phenomena meet the definition of law, no counter example has ever been demonstrated.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's law if no counter examples can be demonstrated

Well that's the dumbest thing said in this thread yet.

Unicorns are always blue.

Show me a counterexample.

You have run out of talking points, so all you have are these terrible ad hoc, reflexive, contrararian points. And boy oh boy are they stupid.

 

[ding]

False. There was no contradiction.

Calling it selection says otherwise despite your other comments. It's chemistry and chance.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Calling it selection says otherwise despite your other comments. It's chemistry and chance.

False. Calling it selection is factual. Selection does not only happen in biological evolution.

Once again, ding doesn't know what the hell he is talking about and makes unforced errors.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Prevolutionary dynamics have selection and mutation, but no replication. Life marches in with the ability of replication: Polymers act as templates for their own reproduction. Prelife is a scaffold that builds life. Yet, there is competition between life and prelife. There is a phase transition: If the effective replication rate exceeds a critical value, then life outcompetes prelife.

 

[ding]

False. Calling it selection is factual. Selection does not only happen in biological evolution.

Once again, ding doesn't know what the hell he is talking about and makes unforced errors.

It's probably just a coincidence using selection as in natural selection.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's probably just a coincidence using selection as in natural selection.

Correct. It's the same, general process.

Natural Selection is a term generally used to describe a type of selection that acts on living species. Other types of selection also operate on living species.

And some on chemicals.

 

[ding]

Correct. It's the same, general process.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Interesting news:

Meet LUCA, the 4.2 billion-year-old cell that's the ancestor of all life on Earth today

New research gives insight into when the ancestor of all living things lived, and it's earlier than we thought.

www.livescience.com

The fact that LUCA lived in a thriving ecosystem even then has interesting implications for life on other planets, study senior author Philip Donoghue, a professor of paleobiology at the University of Bristol, said in the statement.