"Free Palestine

[Phoenall]

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations 32nd session - Minutes of the Permanent Mandates Commission 18 August 1937

Oh, they formed state? When ?

He ant answer because there is no evidence of there ever being a Palestinian state until 1988

Well....maybe. Daher el-Omar ruled most of Palestine as an independant Emirate from 1730 to 1775. Daher was a native Palestinian. That should count.

Did he call himself a Palestinian and did he say he ruled the nation of Palestine ?

 

[Phoenall]

Oh, they formed state? When ?

Well, that is a 1937 League of Nation document and Palestine was already a state.

The official start date was 1924.

Are you saying Palestine became a sovereign state in 1937?

No.

Then what are you saying as that is what is implied in your post................

No it wasn't.

Well it was never formed in 1924, as that pertains to the Mandate for Palestine that was truncated to Palestine under official request. So what are you actually trying to say ?

 

[Phoenall]

What was its capital then, who was its leader, what was its monetary unit and who owned the land under International law at the time ?

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

It's not undefined. It's a region. Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

... a geographic region in Western Asia between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. It is sometimes considered to include adjoining territories. The name was used by Ancient Greek writers, and was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima and the Umayyad and Abbasid province of Jund Filastin.

Like Basque, Mongolia, Siberia, etc. You're insisting that in order to "exist" and by extention, its people to exist it must have defined borders, a capital, a currency, etc. That's bullshit. A canard designed to delegitimize their existence and rights.

Did the Souix have a border? A capital? A currency? A GDP? How about the Cheyenne? How many other people will suddenly cease to exist as a people?

Then define its borders of 100 C.E. to what they are today and see if it is defined or not. As your cut and paste shows it is undefined, as in its boundaries alter as and when the people decide. You are putting that as the definition of the Palestine nation, but the Palestine area is on a par with the Badlands of Nevada, the Antarctic ice pack and the Russian Steppes all know areas but without any clear boundaries.

No. I've never said "nation" - I've said it's a geographically defined region and it's had defined borders, depending on the era and which powers controlled the region.

Like I said - this is nothing more than a transparent attempt to delegitimize the rights of the people who inhabit the region.

Your last statement shows that you are blind to reality as the Souix, Chetenne and many other first nation tribes did have borders, being nomadic their capital was were they met, they had a currency of shells, beads and trade goods and their GDP was related to their food supplies and wealth.

Want to try again with the palestinain nation that never existed until 1988, and the Mandate for Palestine that gave 22% of the area of Palestine borders .

Show me the defined borders of the Souix, their capital, and their currency.

Then define those borders as they were in say 625 C.E., then in 1850 C.E. and finally in 1919 C.E.



Here you go for defined borders of first nation people a map of the area

And then the Souix lands, also called Lakotah

Their currency was trade goods, wampum and barter. They had no defined capital other than the camp of their chief of chiefs.

Now how about you do the same for arab muslim Palestine the nation prior to 1988 ?

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't as black and white as you make it out to be. Those who live their now have a right to keep living there.

Of course, those Arabs who are descendants of those who did not take up active hostilities in 1947 have a right to keep living in Israel. I have never made the claim they don't.

It's those who are descendants of the murderous thugs who are inspired by genocidal antisemitism who don't.

It doesn't matter who they are "descendents of". As long as they haven't committed a crime - then just like anyone else they have a right to live where their families have lived for generations.

And when they do commit a crime what then, can they be evicted as enemies of the state and their dual Israeli nationality removed ?

Does that happen when Jews commit a crime?

They are not foreign nationals with an agenda, but they can be deported if they hold dual nationality. That is what it all boils down to.

 

[TheOldSchool]

They are Arabs.
Israel is a small country.
Let any if the neighboring Arab nations take in the Palestinians

How? Israel won't allow them to leave.

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He is completely wrong. The people in Gaza are basically trapped. I'm not even sure they can import or export goods.

 

[Coyote]

How? Israel won't allow them to leave.

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He is completely wrong. The people in Gaza are basically trapped. I'm not even sure they can import or export goods.

That's what I thought. If they were able to leave why are they paying huge amounts of money to Egyptian smugglers to attempt the hugely dangerous journy try to escape in leaky boats - or ending up deliberately sunk and drowned.

Palestinian migrants fleeing Gaza Strip drown in Mediterranean Sea Al Jazeera America
Traffickers laughed as they capsized boat to drown refugees - Israel News Ynetnews

 

[Phoenall]

They are Arabs.
Israel is a small country.
Let any if the neighboring Arab nations take in the Palestinians

How? Israel won't allow them to leave.

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing at all that is to do with Internal movement not migration. And in gaza it is hamas that controls the migration in and out of gaza.

Hamas closes border crossing with Israel News Middle East THE DAILY STAR

 

[Phoenall]

How? Israel won't allow them to leave.

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He is completely wrong. The people in Gaza are basically trapped. I'm not even sure they can import or export goods.

Yet tens of thousands of tons of imports are entering gaza every day, just not materials that could be used for military purposes. The arab muslims have nothing to export seeing as they have destroyed everything inside gaza.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Exactly right, the Palestinians certainly didn't agree to another "nation," (the European Zionist colonial project, aka Israel) establishing it's borders within the confines of their own nation, Palestine. Nice to see you are finally getting the point.

What was its capital then, who was its leader, what was its monetary unit and who owned the land under International law at the time ?

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations 32nd session - Minutes of the Permanent Mandates Commission 18 August 1937

Once again you fail to see the truth in as much as Palestine was not a nation until 1988, and the Nationality Law was to provide consular cover for any Mandate for Palestine inhabitant to travel outside of the mandate. If Palestine was a nation why are its passports from that era all BRITISH and not issued by the Palestinian government on the order of its government ?

Still waiting for the Internationally agreed treaty signed by the representatives of Palestine that gave the Palestinians a nation. Just like the ones that gave the Syrians, Iraqi's, Jordanians and Israeli's their nations.

What international treaty gave Israelis their nation?

Quote the passages.

 

[Coyote]

.

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

It's not undefined. It's a region. Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

... a geographic region in Western Asia between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. It is sometimes considered to include adjoining territories. The name was used by Ancient Greek writers, and was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima and the Umayyad and Abbasid province of Jund Filastin.

Like Basque, Mongolia, Siberia, etc. You're insisting that in order to "exist" and by extention, its people to exist it must have defined borders, a capital, a currency, etc. That's bullshit. A canard designed to delegitimize their existence and rights.

Did the Souix have a border? A capital? A currency? A GDP? How about the Cheyenne? How many other people will suddenly cease to exist as a people?

Then define its borders of 100 C.E. to what they are today and see if it is defined or not. As your cut and paste shows it is undefined, as in its boundaries alter as and when the people decide. You are putting that as the definition of the Palestine nation, but the Palestine area is on a par with the Badlands of Nevada, the Antarctic ice pack and the Russian Steppes all know areas but without any clear boundaries.

No. I've never said "nation" - I've said it's a geographically defined region and it's had defined borders, depending on the era and which powers controlled the region.

Like I said - this is nothing more than a transparent attempt to delegitimize the rights of the people who inhabit the region.

Your last statement shows that you are blind to reality as the Souix, Chetenne and many other first nation tribes did have borders, being nomadic their capital was were they met, they had a currency of shells, beads and trade goods and their GDP was related to their food supplies and wealth.

Want to try again with the palestinain nation that never existed until 1988, and the Mandate for Palestine that gave 22% of the area of Palestine borders .

Show me the defined borders of the Souix, their capital, and their currency.

Then define those borders as they were in say 625 C.E., then in 1850 C.E. and finally in 1919 C.E.



Here you go for defined borders of first nation people a map of the area

And then the Souix lands, also called Lakotah

Their currency was trade goods, wampum and barter. They had no defined capital other than the camp of their chief of chiefs.

Now how about you do the same for arab muslim Palestine the nation prior to 1988 ?

Those were territories in which they roamed or lived - not distinct borders and they were gradually pushed westward by the Ojibwe.

Google "Palestine" and "maps" and you will see many maps of a distinctly marked borders.

Encyclopedia of the Great Plains SIOUX

They had trade and barter, but all human groups had some form of that.

Wampum was used by the Eastern Woodland tribes, not the Souix.

So...are the Souix not a "real people" since they had no firm borders, no currency and no capital?

 

[P F Tinmore]

They are Palestinians, it was their country before the Zionist colonists arrived, why should they leave?

I keep hoping some neurons will finally start occupying all that unused tissue that lies between your two ears.

As has been pointed out to you innumerable times, there has never been a country called Palestine run by "Palestinians". You are uneducable and so keep repeating this stupid nonsense.

Yet they lived there. Why should they be forced to leave?

The Arabs who had not yet invented their identity as "Palestinians" were invited to stay and take part in the new state of Israel. They chose warfare and murder, instead. Why should those dedicated to murder based upon ethnicity be allowed to return once they have made such a choice?

It wasn't as black and white as you make it out to be. Those who live their now have a right to keep living there.

Actually it was as black and white as that, defined by the UN resolution that stated that the arab muslims that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews should be allowed to return to their homes. They never said all arab muslims as they knew the majority would not accept the rules, so they were barred from returning.

that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews​

Where does it say that?

 

[Phoenall]

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He is completely wrong. The people in Gaza are basically trapped. I'm not even sure they can import or export goods.

That's what I thought. If they were able to leave why are they paying huge amounts of money to Egyptian smugglers to attempt the hugely dangerous journy try to escape in leaky boats - or ending up deliberately sunk and drowned.

Palestinian migrants fleeing Gaza Strip drown in Mediterranean Sea Al Jazeera America
Traffickers laughed as they capsized boat to drown refugees - Israel News Ynetnews

Did you bother to read your links and see where the first says...... Sources told Maan that the Palestinians who drowned on Saturday fled Gaza into Egypt through underground tunnels, after which they boarded the ship bound for Italy..... so not from gaza but from elsewhere in the area.

Second link./........ Fresh witness testimony confirmed around 500 people drowned after their boat sank off Malta on Wednesday, including up to 100 children who had been making the treacherous journey from Egypt to Italy,........

Guess you just cant wait to blame Israel for something outside of their control, and forget that hamas control the tunnels into Egypt and exact a very high price for anything/anyone moving in or out of gaza.
It is hamas that controls the crossing and they say who goes out of gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

It's not undefined. It's a region. Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

... a geographic region in Western Asia between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. It is sometimes considered to include adjoining territories. The name was used by Ancient Greek writers, and was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima and the Umayyad and Abbasid province of Jund Filastin.

Like Basque, Mongolia, Siberia, etc. You're insisting that in order to "exist" and by extention, its people to exist it must have defined borders, a capital, a currency, etc. That's bullshit. A canard designed to delegitimize their existence and rights.

Did the Souix have a border? A capital? A currency? A GDP? How about the Cheyenne? How many other people will suddenly cease to exist as a people?

Then define its borders of 100 C.E. to what they are today and see if it is defined or not. As your cut and paste shows it is undefined, as in its boundaries alter as and when the people decide. You are putting that as the definition of the Palestine nation, but the Palestine area is on a par with the Badlands of Nevada, the Antarctic ice pack and the Russian Steppes all know areas but without any clear boundaries.

No. I've never said "nation" - I've said it's a geographically defined region and it's had defined borders, depending on the era and which powers controlled the region.

Like I said - this is nothing more than a transparent attempt to delegitimize the rights of the people who inhabit the region.

Your last statement shows that you are blind to reality as the Souix, Chetenne and many other first nation tribes did have borders, being nomadic their capital was were they met, they had a currency of shells, beads and trade goods and their GDP was related to their food supplies and wealth.

Want to try again with the palestinain nation that never existed until 1988, and the Mandate for Palestine that gave 22% of the area of Palestine borders .

Show me the defined borders of the Souix, their capital, and their currency.

Then define those borders as they were in say 625 C.E., then in 1850 C.E. and finally in 1919 C.E.



Here you go for defined borders of first nation people a map of the area

And then the Souix lands, also called Lakotah

Their currency was trade goods, wampum and barter. They had no defined capital other than the camp of their chief of chiefs.

Now how about you do the same for arab muslim Palestine the nation prior to 1988 ?

Those were territories in which they roamed or lived - not distinct borders and they were gradually pushed westward by the Ojibwe.

Google "Palestine" and "maps" and you will see many maps of a distinctly marked borders.

Encyclopedia of the Great Plains SIOUX

They had trade and barter, but all human groups had some form of that.

Wampum was used by the Eastern Woodland tribes, not the Souix.

So...are the Souix not a "real people" since they had no firm borders, no currency and no capital?

They were borders within which they had control of the land, they used trade and barter as currency. And in western nations the same barter an be taxed as a commodity. It is only recently that we have had currency as a concept so keep trying the Souix had borders, currency and a movable capital under the existing tenets of the day, you are trying to impose 2015 thinking on a 1600's nomadic people. Just as team Palestine try and impose 2015 laws to the 1920's, 1930's and 1940's and they wont work.

 

[Phoenall]

I keep hoping some neurons will finally start occupying all that unused tissue that lies between your two ears.

As has been pointed out to you innumerable times, there has never been a country called Palestine run by "Palestinians". You are uneducable and so keep repeating this stupid nonsense.

Yet they lived there. Why should they be forced to leave?

The Arabs who had not yet invented their identity as "Palestinians" were invited to stay and take part in the new state of Israel. They chose warfare and murder, instead. Why should those dedicated to murder based upon ethnicity be allowed to return once they have made such a choice?

It wasn't as black and white as you make it out to be. Those who live their now have a right to keep living there.

Actually it was as black and white as that, defined by the UN resolution that stated that the arab muslims that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews should be allowed to return to their homes. They never said all arab muslims as they knew the majority would not accept the rules, so they were barred from returning.

that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews​

Where does it say that?

UN res 194


Article 11 of the resolution reads:

(The General Assembly) Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.

 

[Hossfly]

What was its capital then, who was its leader, what was its monetary unit and who owned the land under International law at the time ?

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations 32nd session - Minutes of the Permanent Mandates Commission 18 August 1937

Once again you fail to see the truth in as much as Palestine was not a nation until 1988, and the Nationality Law was to provide consular cover for any Mandate for Palestine inhabitant to travel outside of the mandate. If Palestine was a nation why are its passports from that era all BRITISH and not issued by the Palestinian government on the order of its government ?

Still waiting for the Internationally agreed treaty signed by the representatives of Palestine that gave the Palestinians a nation. Just like the ones that gave the Syrians, Iraqi's, Jordanians and Israeli's their nations.

What international treaty gave Israelis their nation?

Quote the passages.

None, Tinmore. It was given to the Israelites by the Creator. Period.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well, that is a 1937 League of Nation document and Palestine was already a state.

The official start date was 1924.

Are you saying Palestine became a sovereign state in 1937?

No.

Then what are you saying as that is what is implied in your post................

No it wasn't.

Well it was never formed in 1924, as that pertains to the Mandate for Palestine that was truncated to Palestine under official request. So what are you actually trying to say ?

The Mandate was a temporarily appointed administration to Palestine. It had a specific goal and end date. Palestine remained after the Mandate left.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yet they lived there. Why should they be forced to leave?

The Arabs who had not yet invented their identity as "Palestinians" were invited to stay and take part in the new state of Israel. They chose warfare and murder, instead. Why should those dedicated to murder based upon ethnicity be allowed to return once they have made such a choice?

It wasn't as black and white as you make it out to be. Those who live their now have a right to keep living there.

Actually it was as black and white as that, defined by the UN resolution that stated that the arab muslims that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews should be allowed to return to their homes. They never said all arab muslims as they knew the majority would not accept the rules, so they were barred from returning.

that were preparted to live in peace with the Jews​

Where does it say that?

UN res 194


Article 11 of the resolution reads:

(The General Assembly) Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.

Exactly!

That does not match what you posted.

You lied.

 

[P F Tinmore]

That's such a stupid canard.

The region known as Palestine has existed under that name for some time. It does not have to have the above to "exist" as a region with inhabitants.

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations 32nd session - Minutes of the Permanent Mandates Commission 18 August 1937

Once again you fail to see the truth in as much as Palestine was not a nation until 1988, and the Nationality Law was to provide consular cover for any Mandate for Palestine inhabitant to travel outside of the mandate. If Palestine was a nation why are its passports from that era all BRITISH and not issued by the Palestinian government on the order of its government ?

Still waiting for the Internationally agreed treaty signed by the representatives of Palestine that gave the Palestinians a nation. Just like the ones that gave the Syrians, Iraqi's, Jordanians and Israeli's their nations.

What international treaty gave Israelis their nation?

Quote the passages.

None, Tinmore. It was given to the Israelites by the Creator. Period.

Oh no, not the great realtor in the sky thing again.

 

[Hossfly]

As soon as you use the term nation to describe the arab muslims claims you are showing your lack of understanding. Which is why the questions are always asked and never replied to properly. If Palestine was a nation before 1988 then it must have had a capital city, a currency, a leader or leaders, a GDP, and a set of laws. It must also have had a treaty signed by the LoN giving it the land undewr the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Like Syria has, Iraq has, Jordan has and Israel has.
But seeing as it was just an undefined area in the M.E. that had no leaders or capital then it could not have been a nation. It is no different to the Gobi desert, the Sahara, the Pampas or the Steppes which are also not nations but just places on the map.

Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations 32nd session - Minutes of the Permanent Mandates Commission 18 August 1937

Once again you fail to see the truth in as much as Palestine was not a nation until 1988, and the Nationality Law was to provide consular cover for any Mandate for Palestine inhabitant to travel outside of the mandate. If Palestine was a nation why are its passports from that era all BRITISH and not issued by the Palestinian government on the order of its government ?

Still waiting for the Internationally agreed treaty signed by the representatives of Palestine that gave the Palestinians a nation. Just like the ones that gave the Syrians, Iraqi's, Jordanians and Israeli's their nations.

What international treaty gave Israelis their nation?

Quote the passages.

None, Tinmore. It was given to the Israelites by the Creator. Period.

Oh no, not the great realtor in the sky thing again.

Oh yes! I'm a believer, heathen.

 

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How? Israel won't allow them to leave.

nice lie.

but okie dokie.

You sure about that?

YEP I am as the arab muslims an leave at any time they want, but they cant return. Once they have gone they stay gone for ever. The only people stopping the arab muslims from leaving is hamas who controls who leaves gaza

I don't think you are right about that. Hamas has no control over the borders.

Palestinian freedom of movement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He is completely wrong. The people in Gaza are basically trapped. I'm not even sure they can import or export goods.

That is the main problem. Israel will not allow them to export anything. No produce, no manufactured goods, nothing.

That means that they are not allowed to make any money. That is why most of them are on the dole.