"Free Palestine

[hortysir]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you have something wrong here.

In both the Egyptian and Jordanian 1949 armistice agreements (that Israel signed) the Negev was Palestine.

What happened since then?

(REFERENCE)

1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Egypt
1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Jordan

(COMMENT)

As you said, the Arab Palestinian needs to remember that:

• The Arab Palestinian was not a party to the Armistice Agreements; the were between Israel and its adjacent Arab States (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria).
• The Armistice Agreements simple stopped the movement of the FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area).
• The Armistice Demarcation Lines were intended to be temporary arrangement, separating hostile forces, not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary.

I cannot find in either Armistice Agreement where the disposition of forces in the Negev Dessert is discussed. Can you point that out to me. If you are talking about the phrases:

• Article III-2, 1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Egypt wherein it says: "and shall be beyond the Egypt-Palestine frontier."
• Article V, 1d, 1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Jordan wherein it says: "to the southernmost tip of Palestine,"

It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to dissolve the newly formed State of Israel, and establish Arab control over the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate of Palestine formerly applied. No where in any of the Armistice Agreements assign any territory to the entity of Palestine (the capacity of the government to exercise jurisdiction over all control of the territory) or the control of Palestinian Forces. For one reason, that would be beyond the scope and intent of the Armistice Arrangements; for another, there was no party to the conflict know as Palestine, thus no area of control. And of course, Israel was originally apportioned the Negev in the General Assembly Resolution 181(II): The Partition Plan.

The Peace Treaty between Israel-Egypt (1979) and Israel-Jordan (1994), came after both the continuation of the 1948 War in 1967 and again in 1973. In both of those outbreaks of hostilities, the "sovereign control" (the capacity of the government to exercise jurisdiction over the territory) of the Negev Desert was never in question - in the hands of the Israelis. The Arab instigation and incitement of armed conflict in both cases saw an unqualified military defeat of Arab Forces.

Most Respectfully,
R

"It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to dissolve the newly formed State of Israel, "

It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to protect the Christians and Muslims from Jewish aggression which was intended to ethnically cleanse and/or eliminate the non-Jews living in the portion of Palestine illegally assigned to the Europeans.

Really?
I would like to read over the sources supporting that opinion

 

[toastman]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

 

[toastman]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

No they didn't. Is this another Tinmore lie ? Where's your link ?

You cannot just make up definitions to suit your agenda .

Oh, and 'Palestine' is the mooch capital of the world.

 

[Indofred]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

Some people deny the holocaust as well.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you have something wrong here.

In both the Egyptian and Jordanian 1949 armistice agreements (that Israel signed) the Negev was Palestine.

What happened since then?

(REFERENCE)

1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Egypt
1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Jordan

(COMMENT)

As you said, the Arab Palestinian needs to remember that:

• The Arab Palestinian was not a party to the Armistice Agreements; the were between Israel and its adjacent Arab States (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria).
• The Armistice Agreements simple stopped the movement of the FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area).
• The Armistice Demarcation Lines were intended to be temporary arrangement, separating hostile forces, not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary.

I cannot find in either Armistice Agreement where the disposition of forces in the Negev Dessert is discussed. Can you point that out to me. If you are talking about the phrases:

• Article III-2, 1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Egypt wherein it says: "and shall be beyond the Egypt-Palestine frontier."
• Article V, 1d, 1949 Armistice Agreement Israel-Jordan wherein it says: "to the southernmost tip of Palestine,"

It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to dissolve the newly formed State of Israel, and establish Arab control over the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate of Palestine formerly applied. No where in any of the Armistice Agreements assign any territory to the entity of Palestine (the capacity of the government to exercise jurisdiction over all control of the territory) or the control of Palestinian Forces. For one reason, that would be beyond the scope and intent of the Armistice Arrangements; for another, there was no party to the conflict know as Palestine, thus no area of control. And of course, Israel was originally apportioned the Negev in the General Assembly Resolution 181(II): The Partition Plan.

The Peace Treaty between Israel-Egypt (1979) and Israel-Jordan (1994), came after both the continuation of the 1948 War in 1967 and again in 1973. In both of those outbreaks of hostilities, the "sovereign control" (the capacity of the government to exercise jurisdiction over the territory) of the Negev Desert was never in question - in the hands of the Israelis. The Arab instigation and incitement of armed conflict in both cases saw an unqualified military defeat of Arab Forces.

Most Respectfully,
R

"It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to dissolve the newly formed State of Israel, "

It should be remembered that the intent of the conflict was to protect the Christians and Muslims from Jewish aggression which was intended to ethnically cleanse and/or eliminate the non-Jews living in the portion of Palestine illegally assigned to the Europeans.

HOW ABOUT ALINK SHOWING THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL THEN Abdul. Or are you being fed this crap by your imam.

 

[Phoenall]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

Explain again how they invade their own land give to them by the lands legal owners ?

 

[Phoenall]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

And it still took until 1988 before the arab muslims became a nation of sorts, the world is still waiting for them to fulfil their promises of a peace treaty and mutually agreed borders.

 

[Phoenall]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

And it still took until 1988 before the arab muslims became a nation of sorts, the world is still waiting for them to fulfil their promises of a peace treaty and mutually agreed borders.

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

Some people deny the holocaust as well.

And unfortunately for you they happen to be mainly muslims.

 

[Phoenall]

Free Palestine

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

That's what the Jews thought when they invaded.
Why pay for it when we can steal it for nothing?

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

 

[toastman]

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

 

[Phoenall]

An invasion is a military offensive. Jewish immigration only means an invasion to propagandists, and Jew hating Muslims , like yourself.

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

Time to read and understand the Mandate for Palestine as it says this


ARTICLE 1.
The Mandatory shall have full powers of legislation and of administration, save as they may be limited by the terms of this mandate.


ART. 9.
The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.

Respect for the personal status of the various peoples and communities and for their religious interests shall be fully guaranteed. In particular, the control and administration of Wakfs shall be exercised in accordance with religious law and the dispositions of the founders.


Guess you are not researching the subject well enough................

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine was born under military occupation and troop strength against them was even increased in the '30s.

It definitely was a military invasion.

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.​

​

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally speaking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

 

[Phoenall]

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally speaking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

The Mandate dates from 1922 not 1948, and the arabs agreed with Britain being the mandate power. They could not change ship in the middle of an ocean so they were stuck with Britain. In 1948 Britain had already given up the Mandate and the UN took over.

Your link is hardly what could be called non partisan as it only puts the arab muslim side of the story.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally speaking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

The Mandate dates from 1922 not 1948, and the arabs agreed with Britain being the mandate power. They could not change ship in the middle of an ocean so they were stuck with Britain. In 1948 Britain had already given up the Mandate and the UN took over.

Your link is hardly what could be called non partisan as it only puts the arab muslim side of the story.

You can link to something that says different.

 

[Phoenall]

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally speaking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

The Mandate dates from 1922 not 1948, and the arabs agreed with Britain being the mandate power. They could not change ship in the middle of an ocean so they were stuck with Britain. In 1948 Britain had already given up the Mandate and the UN took over.

Your link is hardly what could be called non partisan as it only puts the arab muslim side of the story.

You can link to something that says different.

So simple to do that it is laughable

The Sykes-Picot Agreement did not call for Arab sovereignty, but for the "suzerainty of an Arab chief" and "an international administration, the form of which is to be decided upon after consultation with Russia, and subsequently in consultation with the other allies, and the representatives of the Sherif of Mecca."

At the Peace Conference in 1919, Emir Faisal, speaking on behalf of King Hussein, asked for Arab independence, or at minimum the right to pick the mandatory.[14] In the end, he recommended an Arab state under a British mandate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)

 

[toastman]

A Jewish military invaded Mandatory Palestine from Europe and started attacking Palestinians ? Link?

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally peking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

Absolutely NOTHING in your link suggest that Israel mooched Britain's military. Looks like it is another Tinmore lie.

Zionist takeover of Palestine? Palestinian propaganda. Jews never took over land until being attacked by Arab states and Palestinians.

Funny, 5 Arab states surround the region and attack the newly founded state with the help of Palestinian militias, with the intent of destroying it, but instead Israel ends up going on the offensive after beginning the war on the defensive , and manage to increase their territory.
Now almost 7 decades later, propagandists are trying to re write history and make Israel look like the aggressor..

People are entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I didn't say that. Israel (the mooch capital of the world) mooched Britain's military for their invasion.

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally peking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

Absolutely NOTHING in your link suggest that Israel mooched Britain's military. Looks like it is another Tinmore lie.

Zionist takeover of Palestine? Palestinian propaganda. Jews never took over land until being attacked by Arab states and Palestinians.

Funny, 5 Arab states surround the region and attack the newly founded state with the help of Palestinian militias, with the intent of destroying it, but instead Israel ends up going on the offensive after beginning the war on the defensive , and manage to increase their territory.
Now almost 7 decades later, propagandists are trying to re write history and make Israel look like the aggressor..

People are entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business.

What was the Zionist scum doing there?

 

[toastman]

LINK ? ? ? ?

Military courts were established, awarding 58 death sentences by the end of 1938, apart from numerous life imprisonments. 93/ To interdict support for the guerrillas, a barbed-wire fence, called the "Teggert line" was set up along portions of the Syrian, Transjordanian and Lebanese borders.
"Throughout 1937 British armed forces in Palestine had amounted to no more than two infantry brigades. In July 1938, two additional infantry battalions, two squadrons of the Royal Air Force, an armoured car and cavalry unit, and a battle cruiser were endeavouring to suppress terrorism which, since April, had become open rebellion. By the end of October there were in the country eighteen infantry battalions, two cavalry regiments, a battery of howitzers, and armoured car units, or a total of 18,000 to 20,000 troops, while some 2,930 additional British police were recruited during the year. A virtual military reoccupation of the country proved necessary to deal with the explosion of bombs and land mines, the murder and snipings which were almost daily occurrences. Heavy military concentrations alone preserved a semblance of order in the northern and central parts of the country,

Mandated Palestine - The beginning of Palestinian resistance​

The LoN Covenant called for the Mandate to render administrative assistance and advice.

That is some serious administrative assistance and advice.

What does Britains military might have to do with the link Phoenall and I are asking for ?

How did you come up with the idea that Israel mooched Britain's military?

According to the surveys conducted at the time, it was not Britain that the Arabs had opted for to run the Palestine Mandate. They had opted for the United States to be their supervisory body. The Zionist leadership opted for the trusteeship of Great Britain over Palestine and when Turkish rule formally ended under the Treaty of Sevres on 10 August 1920, the Zionists ensured that the famous Balfour Declaration was embodied in it under Article 22.

Yet, it is worth remembering that the British Mandate over Palestine was ratified in July 1922 by the League of Nations, but did not come into effect until September 1923. But it could not become operational until peace with Turkey was signed and sealed in August 1924. So legally peking, Palestine from 1917 (when the Balfour Declaration was issued) until 1924 (when the peace Treaty was ratified with Turkey - a total of 7 years) was 'occupied territory'. This means that Britain remained bound by the restrictions of the Hague Convention of 1907 outlining the laws of war and war crimes. Where are the legal brains today to stand by this?

Preparing the Ground - 1948​

The US would not have implemented the Zionist plan to take over Palestine.

It would require military force to impose their plan onto Palestine. Britain was on board to do it.

Absolutely NOTHING in your link suggest that Israel mooched Britain's military. Looks like it is another Tinmore lie.

Zionist takeover of Palestine? Palestinian propaganda. Jews never took over land until being attacked by Arab states and Palestinians.

Funny, 5 Arab states surround the region and attack the newly founded state with the help of Palestinian militias, with the intent of destroying it, but instead Israel ends up going on the offensive after beginning the war on the defensive , and manage to increase their territory.
Now almost 7 decades later, propagandists are trying to re write history and make Israel look like the aggressor..

People are entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business.

What was the Zionist scum doing there?

What a stupid question and massive deflection.

So I guess we can agree that you "Israel mooched Britain's military" statement is a lie....