Free AR for Everyone?

[ThunderKiss1965]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

the right of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE

Not even the lgbt community when it is about the security of our free States or the Union.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They come with their threats of action to deprive me of my rightfully owned property will leave people like me but one recourse to return fire.

Good luck, I don’t disagree with that at all, I wish you well, but you’ve got to have enough rank and enough firepower, enough troops on your side, and all that.

ASYMMETRIC WARFARE

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

A well regulated militia is a State's sovereign. It is a social power to draft and regulate individual Persons of the People.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

A well regulated militia is a State's sovereign. It is a social power to draft and regulate individual Persons of the People.

nope it's an individual right

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

Because a State has a State's sovereign right to organize the unorganized militia.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

A well regulated militia is a State's sovereign. It is a social power to draft and regulate individual Persons of the People.

nope it's an individual right

Show us Any Individual terms in our Second Amendment. It is not about Individuals of the People but about the security of our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

the right of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE

Not even the lgbt community when it is about the security of our free States or the Union.

Dog whistle time dumbass gun rights aren't dependent of your sexual preference what in the fuck does that have anything to do with this discussion?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

Because a State has a State's sovereign right to organize the unorganized militia.

States do not have sovereignty rights over federally protected rights.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

the right of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE

Not even the lgbt community when it is about the security of our free States or the Union.

Dog whistle time dumbass gun rights aren't dependent of your sexual preference what in the fuck does that have anything to do with this discussion?

lgbt codes instead of black codes?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

Because a State has a State's sovereign right to organize the unorganized militia.

States do not have sovereignty rights over federally protected rights.

Good thing a well regulated militia of People is a protected, States' Right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

A well regulated militia is a State's sovereign. It is a social power to draft and regulate individual Persons of the People.

nope it's an individual right

Show us Any Individual terms in our Second Amendment. It is not about Individuals of the People but about the security of our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

the people are individuals stop drunk posting

 

[progressive hunter]

="bigrebnc1775, post: 26197817, member: 23837"]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

AR15's aren't military weapons they aren't issued by the military but can be used effectively

Whether the military uses them or not is irrelevant. It's a killing machine either way.

Yes they are as good a killing machine as the handler is
Why don't you come and take'em?

I have zero desirefor them, no more than I would come and take your raisins or your prunes or the Yugo you drive.

well then stop whining about something I own that is my property that has no harmed you

What "whining" is that? Linko, Blinko?

Fer fuxsake you just now showed up. I neither know nor care what the fuck you own.

It's whining when you call an inanimate object a killing machine.

Read back --- I invited the other yahoo to demonstrate what else it could be.

He ran away.

I tend to pose that kind of question.

On your mark..........

and I responded that it's as good a killing machine as the handler is therefore you are whining

This might come as news to those without brains but there is no "whining" in a simple description of what an object is.

I said absolutely zero about "handlers". Just as I said zero about "drivers", "diggers" or "callers". I described objects. As in what those objects are designed for.

youre right you arent whining,, youre having a mental breakdown cause knives and baseball bats kill far more people than guns outside of war,,,

so unless you want to take guns away from the military youre just whining,,,

Aagain ---- you can cut a package open with a knife or whittle a piece of wood. You can hit a double with a baseball bat. You could even whittle a piece of wood into a baseball bat.

That's what they're DESIGNED FOR. That is their PURPOSE.

and guns are designed for killing people or things that need killing,, in fact they are the perfect tool for it,, so unless you need killed whats your problem??

THANK YOU. That's what I've been saying the whole time.

You want "problems", go talk to the yahoos who can't handle definitions.

what you dont understand is a gun is a tool and is useless unless a human is using it,,, or a turkey in the trunk,,

just like any knife or baseball bat,,

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

the right of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE

Not even the lgbt community when it is about the security of our free States or the Union.

Dog whistle time dumbass gun rights aren't dependent of your sexual preference what in the fuck does that have anything to do with this discussion?

lgbt codes instead of black codes?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

ding bat what does that have anything to do with this discussion? it's just your attempt to deflec and derail the thread that you are loosing in
Gay's have a right to keep and bear arms blacks have a right to keep and bear arms Orientals have a right to keep and nare arms, Latino's have a right to keep and bear arms
Any American citizen has a right to keep and bare arms
SO STOP THE STUPID SHIT DOG WHISTLE.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

Because a State has a State's sovereign right to organize the unorganized militia.

States do not have sovereignty rights over federally protected rights.

Good thing a well regulated militia of People is a protected, States' Right.

NO MILITIA NEEDED TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

Bullshit it states that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed and the framers of the Constitution acknowledged that right of the individual citizen.

A well regulated militia is a State's sovereign. It is a social power to draft and regulate individual Persons of the People.

nope it's an individual right

Show us Any Individual terms in our Second Amendment. It is not about Individuals of the People but about the security of our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

the people are individuals stop drunk posting

Not for organized militia purposes; the proof is, special rules apply (or don't apply) depending on your perspective. A well regulated militia of Individuals of the People is a State's sovereign Right.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Virginia Constitution

State Constitutions do not supersede the US Constitution. Every subsequent writings from the framers of the Constitution acknowledge that the individual law abiding citizen has the right to own a firearm with no interference from the Government. The Fed can regulate "the Militia" all it wants but the Constitution is pretty clear on the rights of the people.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not individual rights or liberty.

the right of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE

Not even the lgbt community when it is about the security of our free States or the Union.

Dog whistle time dumbass gun rights aren't dependent of your sexual preference what in the fuck does that have anything to do with this discussion?

lgbt codes instead of black codes?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

ding bat what does that have anything to do with this discussion? it's just your attempt to deflec and derail the thread that you are loosing in
Gay's have a right to keep and bear arms blacks have a right to keep and bear arms Orientals have a right to keep and nare arms, Latino's have a right to keep and bear arms
Any American citizen has a right to keep and bare arms
SO STOP THE STUPID SHIT DOG WHISTLE.

I agree to disagree.

 

[danielpalos]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

So you believe exercising a Constitutional right is akin to belonging to a cult ?

The unorganized militia has proven itself to be worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

again with the dumb shit

Proof right wingers hate being legal to the law, but love hating on less fortunate illegals for the same thing. Isn't there a Religious technical term for that?

no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

This is secured by our Second Amendment:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

one more time
no law is legal when it supersedes the U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS

In this case, our Second Amendment supports my view and not Yours. The law is clear and express. Anyone can get drafted for the security of our free States or the Union.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The militia are the people not the government or the police or the national guard
the PEOPLE are the only group that have a right to firearms the government has them by our consent

Because a State has a State's sovereign right to organize the unorganized militia.

States do not have sovereignty rights over federally protected rights.

Good thing a well regulated militia of People is a protected, States' Right.

NO MILITIA NEEDED TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

Not when the security of a free State is involved.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.