France banned all rifles...130 dead in attack on Rock Concert, here...58 killed

[Faun]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

I know this doesn't fit your argument, but it wasn't a lone attacker in France.

It is worse.......self defense rifles with magazines.....as well as actual military rifles that are fully automatic are completely banned in France...you can't buy them in gun stores, or gun shows....

And multiple muslim terrorists, many on Terrorist watch lists, were able to get the fully automatic rifles easily..........

They have a complete ban...and they still got enough rifles to arm multiple attackers....and murdered 130 people.......

You can't compare the two. One had 7-8 assailants, while the shooting in Vegas had ONE. Not to mention, what good did it do that people in the crowd in Vegas could be armed matter? No armed citizens stopped the attack, the shooter was 32 stories up in the hotel.

Funny how shootings here in the states seem to be lone wolf attacks, while in Europe they are well organized planned mass attacks.

Why is that? What policies might account for that difference, (point to the US, of course)?

ISIS doesn’t have to come here to kill Americans; we do that for them. Each and every year, Americans kill thousands upon thousands of other Americans. Far more than ISIS could.

 

[Correll]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

I know this doesn't fit your argument, but it wasn't a lone attacker in France.

It is worse.......self defense rifles with magazines.....as well as actual military rifles that are fully automatic are completely banned in France...you can't buy them in gun stores, or gun shows....

And multiple muslim terrorists, many on Terrorist watch lists, were able to get the fully automatic rifles easily..........

They have a complete ban...and they still got enough rifles to arm multiple attackers....and murdered 130 people.......

You can't compare the two. One had 7-8 assailants, while the shooting in Vegas had ONE. Not to mention, what good did it do that people in the crowd in Vegas could be armed matter? No armed citizens stopped the attack, the shooter was 32 stories up in the hotel.

Funny how shootings here in the states seem to be lone wolf attacks, while in Europe they are well organized planned mass attacks.

Why is that? What policies might account for that difference, (point to the US, of course)?

ISIS doesn’t have to come here to kill Americans; we do that for them. Each and every year, Americans kill thousands upon thousands of other Americans. Far more than ISIS could.

Sooo, we should not give any thought to how to avoid teams of terrorists from coming here and killing us by the hundreds because it is smaller than the number of people killed by domestic crime?


Maybe you need to walk me though that very, very slowly.


Cause I'm not seeing the sense.

 

[Asclepias]

I know this doesn't fit your argument, but it wasn't a lone attacker in France.

It is worse.......self defense rifles with magazines.....as well as actual military rifles that are fully automatic are completely banned in France...you can't buy them in gun stores, or gun shows....

And multiple muslim terrorists, many on Terrorist watch lists, were able to get the fully automatic rifles easily..........

They have a complete ban...and they still got enough rifles to arm multiple attackers....and murdered 130 people.......

You can't compare the two. One had 7-8 assailants, while the shooting in Vegas had ONE. Not to mention, what good did it do that people in the crowd in Vegas could be armed matter? No armed citizens stopped the attack, the shooter was 32 stories up in the hotel.

Funny how shootings here in the states seem to be lone wolf attacks, while in Europe they are well organized planned mass attacks.

Why is that? What policies might account for that difference, (point to the US, of course)?

Water, Oceans and proximity.

There is an ocean between France and Islam. They could have used that as a barrier. They choose not to.

You sound like an idiot. Islam isnt a place its a religion. What ocean are you claiming is between France and Islam?

 

[Faun]

I know this doesn't fit your argument, but it wasn't a lone attacker in France.

It is worse.......self defense rifles with magazines.....as well as actual military rifles that are fully automatic are completely banned in France...you can't buy them in gun stores, or gun shows....

And multiple muslim terrorists, many on Terrorist watch lists, were able to get the fully automatic rifles easily..........

They have a complete ban...and they still got enough rifles to arm multiple attackers....and murdered 130 people.......

You can't compare the two. One had 7-8 assailants, while the shooting in Vegas had ONE. Not to mention, what good did it do that people in the crowd in Vegas could be armed matter? No armed citizens stopped the attack, the shooter was 32 stories up in the hotel.

Funny how shootings here in the states seem to be lone wolf attacks, while in Europe they are well organized planned mass attacks.

Why is that? What policies might account for that difference, (point to the US, of course)?

ISIS doesn’t have to come here to kill Americans; we do that for them. Each and every year, Americans kill thousands upon thousands of other Americans. Far more than ISIS could.

Sooo, we should not give any thought to how to avoid teams of terrorists from coming here and killing us by the hundreds because it is smaller than the number of people killed by domestic crime?


Maybe you need to walk me though that very, very slowly.


Cause I'm not seeing the sense.

Sorry, but you have to walk yourself through the voices you hear in your head.

 

[Correll]

It is worse.......self defense rifles with magazines.....as well as actual military rifles that are fully automatic are completely banned in France...you can't buy them in gun stores, or gun shows....

And multiple muslim terrorists, many on Terrorist watch lists, were able to get the fully automatic rifles easily..........

They have a complete ban...and they still got enough rifles to arm multiple attackers....and murdered 130 people.......

You can't compare the two. One had 7-8 assailants, while the shooting in Vegas had ONE. Not to mention, what good did it do that people in the crowd in Vegas could be armed matter? No armed citizens stopped the attack, the shooter was 32 stories up in the hotel.

Funny how shootings here in the states seem to be lone wolf attacks, while in Europe they are well organized planned mass attacks.

Why is that? What policies might account for that difference, (point to the US, of course)?

ISIS doesn’t have to come here to kill Americans; we do that for them. Each and every year, Americans kill thousands upon thousands of other Americans. Far more than ISIS could.

Sooo, we should not give any thought to how to avoid teams of terrorists from coming here and killing us by the hundreds because it is smaller than the number of people killed by domestic crime?


Maybe you need to walk me though that very, very slowly.


Cause I'm not seeing the sense.

Sorry, but you have to walk yourself through the voices you hear in your head.

So, what was you point in your last post, if it was not that? How was it an answer to the question I raised?

 

[toobfreak]

Well then clearly, France needs tougher gun laws.

Duh.

Or they need to end the crushing poverty in the Islamic neighborhoods that breed this sort of thing.

But again, some people never learn...

There it is, the Muslims would love us if we all just gave them jobs! They live in poverty in their own country and never bother to anything about it, them migrate to the west and make it OUR problem! We just need to suit them! And it is OUR fault how they think, live and feel.

 

[toobfreak]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

 

[Asclepias]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

You must be an idiot. If someone had shot at him the shooter would have mowed his ass down with all that fire power.

 

[Faun]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

LOL

You have no evidence that not one of the roughly 22,000 people at that concert was carrying.

You have no evidence anyone who was, could stand there while bullets rained down on the crowd, locate the shooter inside a hotel room from some 400 yards away, and pick him off with a handgun.

You loco.

 

[Faun]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

You must be an idiot. If someone had shot at him the shooter would have mowed his ass down with all that fire power.

that idiot has been playing too much GTA5 with autolock.

 

[toobfreak]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

You must be an idiot. If someone had shot at him the shooter would have mowed his ass down with all that fire power.

Jackass, I'm not the one who suggested it! LEARN TO READ.

 

[francoHFW]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

He was over 300 yards away that would be a pretty good shot...

 

[toobfreak]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

LOL

You have no evidence that not one of the roughly 22,000 people at that concert was carrying.

You have no evidence anyone who was, could stand there while bullets rained down on the crowd, locate the shooter inside a hotel room from some 400 yards away, and pick him off with a handgun.

You loco.

You STUPIDO. Another moron who just does not bother to read before putting foot in own mouth. I was saying JUST THE OPPOSITE, that it would have been impossible for a person to fire back at the shooter, unless maybe they had a high powered rifle with a good scope!!! Amazing how you Libtards CONTINUOUSLY show your stupidity. You are actually arguing with WHAT YOU SAID a few posts up! Imbecile.

And had a person on the ground HAD a gun or rifle, they would have been mistaken for one of the attackers themselves and probably killed trying to defend everyone, or stopped at the gate for carrying a firearm. How funny that everything liberals do always ends in the EXACT OPPOSITE of their stated intent!

 

[Asclepias]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

You must be an idiot. If someone had shot at him the shooter would have mowed his ass down with all that fire power.

Jackass, I'm not the one who suggested it! LEARN TO READ.

Now youre claiming you didnt say this?....

"If just one of those people had a handgun"

What a dumbass. Are you going to claim someone edited your post now?

 

[Asclepias]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

LOL

You have no evidence that not one of the roughly 22,000 people at that concert was carrying.

You have no evidence anyone who was, could stand there while bullets rained down on the crowd, locate the shooter inside a hotel room from some 400 yards away, and pick him off with a handgun.

You loco.

You STUPIDO. Another moron who just does not bother to read before putting foot in own mouth. I was saying JUST THE OPPOSITE, that it would have been impossible for a person to fire back at the shooter, unless maybe they had a high powered rifle with a good scope!!! Amazing how you Libtards CONTINUOUSLY show your stupidity. You are actually arguing with WHAT YOU SAID a few posts up! Imbecile.

And had a person on the ground HAD a gun or rifle, they would have been mistaken for one of the attackers themselves and probably killed trying to defend everyone, or stopped at the gate for carrying a firearm. How funny that everything liberals do always ends in the EXACT OPPOSITE of their stated intent!

Now your trying to back track because you realized what a dumb ass you were for suggesting someone with a gun shoot at the massively armed shooter.

 

[toobfreak]

Now youre claiming you didnt say this?....

"If just one of those people had a handgun"

What a dumbass. Are you going to claim someone edited your post now?

GOD are you a DENSE JACKASS or what! Can't you even read????? FAUN said the shooter stopped himself, not because of any self-armed person on the ground (I don't know that anyone ever suggested otherwise), and in a SARCASM I was pointing out the impossibility of anyone on the ground being able to stop him even if they HAD a gun, short of a trained professional sniper!

Now go soak your head in a bucket, maybe it'll cool your brain.

 

[Faun]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

You must be an idiot. If someone had shot at him the shooter would have mowed his ass down with all that fire power.

Jackass, I'm not the one who suggested it! LEARN TO READ.

LOLOL

Imbecile, you really did suggest this idiocy...

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

 

[Faun]

Now youre claiming you didnt say this?....

"If just one of those people had a handgun"

What a dumbass. Are you going to claim someone edited your post now?

GOD are you a DENSE JACKASS or what! Can't you even read????? FAUN said the shooter stopped himself, not because of any self-armed person on the ground (I don't know that anyone ever suggested otherwise), and in a SARCASM I was pointing out the impossibility of anyone on the ground being able to stop him even if they HAD a gun, short of a trained professional sniper!

Now go soak your head in a bucket, maybe it'll cool your brain.

LOL

If you don’t think anyone suggested otherwise, WTF do you think this thread is about??

 

[Asclepias]

Now youre claiming you didnt say this?....

"If just one of those people had a handgun"

What a dumbass. Are you going to claim someone edited your post now?

GOD are you a DENSE JACKASS or what! Can't you even read????? FAUN said the shooter stopped himself, not because of any self-armed person on the ground (I don't know that anyone ever suggested otherwise), and in a SARCASM I was pointing out the impossibility of anyone on the ground being able to stop him even if they HAD a gun, short of a trained professional sniper!

Now go soak your head in a bucket, maybe it'll cool your brain.

Ok dude. You got caught now youre trying to back pedal...

 

[toobfreak]

To compare two approaches to gun control.....

France banned all rifles....military rifles are banned, as are self defense rifles with magazines, the semi auto rifles we have here....

At their concert attack...130 were killed...

November 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia

Here....58......

Idiot...

it ended here at 59 (so far) because the shooter killed himself. Not because civilians were armed.

Right. If just one of those people had a handgun, they could have stood their ground, looked up, tried to figure out where the shots were coming from how many stories up?, then picked him off through the window hole they were firing through.

LOL

You have no evidence that not one of the roughly 22,000 people at that concert was carrying.

You have no evidence anyone who was, could stand there while bullets rained down on the crowd, locate the shooter inside a hotel room from some 400 yards away, and pick him off with a handgun.

You loco.

You STUPIDO. Another moron who just does not bother to read before putting foot in own mouth. I was saying JUST THE OPPOSITE, that it would have been impossible for a person to fire back at the shooter, unless maybe they had a high powered rifle with a good scope!!! Amazing how you Libtards CONTINUOUSLY show your stupidity. You are actually arguing with WHAT YOU SAID a few posts up! Imbecile.

And had a person on the ground HAD a gun or rifle, they would have been mistaken for one of the attackers themselves and probably killed trying to defend everyone, or stopped at the gate for carrying a firearm. How funny that everything liberals do always ends in the EXACT OPPOSITE of their stated intent!

Now your trying to back track because you realized what a dumb ass you were for suggesting someone with a gun shoot at the massively armed shooter.

Now you're trying to pass yourself off as a halfway intelligent bonehead.