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It is impossible and absurd to flatly declare "Santa Claus is white" (or any other colour), because he is a myth. A myth can be anthropomorphized any way we want. It's kinda self-righteous, if not outright racist, to insist "he looks like us and that's all there is to it".
I don't know what the fuck you two are babbling about with Aryan and Kurds and Whey. It's got nothing to do with the colour of freaking Santa Claus.
It is impossible and absurd to flatly declare "Santa Claus is white" (or any other colour), because he is a myth. A myth can be anthropomorphized any way we want. It's kinda self-righteous, if not outright racist, to insist "he looks like us and that's all there is to it".
I don't know what the fuck you two are babbling about with Aryan and Kurds and Whey. It's got nothing to do with the colour of freaking Santa Claus.
Roudy insisted on changing the topic so I had to put him in his place.
Santa is a European myth, thus he is portrayed as European. Having a non-white santa is contrived. The only racist here is Aisha Harris who wants to get rid of Santa and replacing him with a penguin because he is portrayed as White.
There are people of every race in Europe, but they aren't European. And there weren't any non-whites in Northern Europe when the myth of Sinterklaas was formed, nor in Scandinavia where Odin(who santa is partially derived from) came from. There are no non-white portrayals of Sinterklaas or Odin from older time periods. They are European traditions, created by european people, portrayed as european people.
Making a non-white Santa would be as contrived as making a White Buddha. You could do it, nothing is stopping you, but it has no basis with historical presentations of the Buddha.
Is "interracial" marriage still an issue?
There are people of every race in Europe, but they aren't European. And there weren't any non-whites in Northern Europe when the myth of Sinterklaas was formed, nor in Scandinavia where Odin(who santa is partially derived from) came from. There are no non-white portrayals of Sinterklaas or Odin from older time periods. They are European traditions, created by european people, portrayed as european people.
Making a non-white Santa would be as contrived as making a White Buddha. You could do it, nothing is stopping you, but it has no basis with historical presentations of the Buddha.
Bullshit. Of course they are. And check out Sinterklaas' helper, Black Peter -- who's under PC fire in Holland as we speak. Sinterklaas may have some Odinic roots but he's at least as indebted to "St. Nicholas", who's another mythical figure derived from "Old Nick", ultimately derived from Poseidon, plus the Grandmother figure of Bari and southern Italy.
Again, these are myths. Myths are made up. They can be anything we want; there is no "historical authenticity" to a figure who has never in reality existed.
Is "interracial" marriage still an issue?
Only for jerks like the original poster.
There are people of every race in Europe, but they aren't European. And there weren't any non-whites in Northern Europe when the myth of Sinterklaas was formed, nor in Scandinavia where Odin(who santa is partially derived from) came from. There are no non-white portrayals of Sinterklaas or Odin from older time periods. They are European traditions, created by european people, portrayed as european people.
Making a non-white Santa would be as contrived as making a White Buddha. You could do it, nothing is stopping you, but it has no basis with historical presentations of the Buddha.
Bullshit. Of course they are. And check out Sinterklaas' helper, Black Peter -- who's under PC fire in Holland as we speak. Sinterklaas may have some Odinic roots but he's at least as indebted to "St. Nicholas", who's another mythical figure derived from "Old Nick", ultimately derived from Poseidon, plus the Grandmother figure of Bari and southern Italy.
Again, these are myths. Myths are made up. They can be anything we want; there is no "historical authenticity" to a figure who has never in reality existed.
No they aren't. If I moved to China, I wouldn't become Chinese, if moved to Africa, I wouldn't become an African. They may live there, but they aren't racially European.
It is interesting how you ignored the fact there were no non-whites in Europe during those times, or historical portrayals of Sinteklaas or Odin as White? Those facts are pesky and don't fit your world view huh?
I don't see how Black Peter makes Santa black, lol. You are just getting lamer and lamer.
And St. Nicholas is Greek, he is White. You are just getting into a deeper and deeper hole.
You can have your Black Odin, White Buddha, or Asian Santa Claus, no one is stopping you. But they are ridiculous.
Ha ha. Idiot thinks I'm defending the Kurds. I posted a website with hundreds of Kurds calling themselves Aryans. And I posted articles that referred to Kurds as Aryan and Median ancestry. I just happen know far more about the region and the history of its people's than you'll ever dream of.I never denied the Sanskrit. The usage occurred around the same time, but with slightly different meanings.I am still waiting for proof of the word Aryan from the Kurdish language.
But I am glad you are no longer denying word Aryan first appeared in Sanskrit, in the rigvedas, from the Aryan Invaders(not Persians or Kurds) of the Indus Valley. We are making progress.
Look, it's ok. Maybe you Kurds haven't accomplished much, but you don't need to be stealing other people's history ok?
Iranian and Kurdish history are intertwined. Many Persian Kings and Queens were Kurds. All Iranians speak of their Kurdish ancestry and history with pride, because it symbolizes greatness .
As far as "accomplishments", what do you think Saladin's background was? Ignorant idiot.
Perhaps you can find someone in your trailer park with the same intellectual and educational level as yours to "debate" with? I'm going to start charging you for this education.
So again, no such thing as a European Aryan. Nazi morons like you who keep referring to themselves as Aryan are actually referring to their neanderthal backgrounds. Ha ha ha.
No they didn't. You have provided no proof of dates or of usage in the word in Kurdish.
LOL, which ones dumbass? Is your history so pathetic you have to steal from the Persians? What a lowly people you are, no wonder the Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, and Syrians don't like you, lol. You are the bastards of the Middle East along with the Israelis.
Cool, you have one guy, but he has nothing to do with the word "Arya"(meaning noble, describing the white invaders of the subcontinent), Sanskrit, the rigvedas, or the Indus Valley, which are the points of conversation. Stop deviating from the point of conversation.
Ha ha. Idiot thinks I'm defending the Kurds. I posted a website with hundreds of Kurds calling themselves Aryans. And I posted articles that referred to Kurds as Aryan and Median ancestry. I just happen know far more about the region and the history of its people's than you'll ever dream of.I never denied the Sanskrit. The usage occurred around the same time, but with slightly different meanings.
Iranian and Kurdish history are intertwined. Many Persian Kings and Queens were Kurds. All Iranians speak of their Kurdish ancestry and history with pride, because it symbolizes greatness .
As far as "accomplishments", what do you think Saladin's background was? Ignorant idiot.
Perhaps you can find someone in your trailer park with the same intellectual and educational level as yours to "debate" with? I'm going to start charging you for this education.
So again, no such thing as a European Aryan. Nazi morons like you who keep referring to themselves as Aryan are actually referring to their neanderthal backgrounds. Ha ha ha.
No they didn't. You have provided no proof of dates or of usage in the word in Kurdish.
LOL, which ones dumbass? Is your history so pathetic you have to steal from the Persians? What a lowly people you are, no wonder the Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, and Syrians don't like you, lol. You are the bastards of the Middle East along with the Israelis.
Cool, you have one guy, but he has nothing to do with the word "Arya"(meaning noble, describing the white invaders of the subcontinent), Sanskrit, the rigvedas, or the Indus Valley, which are the points of conversation. Stop deviating from the point of conversation.
Fargin Iceholeman calls Saladin, the man who defeated many empires and conquered Jerusaelm, "one man". That's like calling Alexander the Great "one man". Heh heh heh.
I have to admit thugh, the Kurds are a much more noble and peaceful people than the Arab Muslim savages around them. And that's because they shared a common culture, religion, and ancestry with the Persians. And if any ancient people deserve a "homeland" it would be the Kurds. If you look at the now autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdestan, its one of the few success stories of the US invasion of Iraq. Very few bombings if any, no corruption, law and order in place, booming economy. That's why the smarter British army decided to position themselves there, while Americans were getting themselves blown up left and right in places like Fallujah.
What do you illiterate islamoNazi asswipes have? Hitler, the Mufti? Ho ho ho.
No. St. Nicholas is a real person, the Saint from which Santa is originally derived.
Saint Nicholas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You are the only one obsessed with race, you and Aisha Harris(who brought this up in the first place). Trying to suggest that people that aren't from Europe are European. Not only that, trying to deny the European roots of Santa and his historical portrayal.
Like I said, make a Black santa, a White Buddha, it doesn't bother me. You are just being ridiculous. Your ridiculousness doesn't bother me. Why does history bother you?
