Fox Braintrust: Mandatory Vaccinations Could Lead To 'Forced Abortion'

[SwimExpert]

Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated. Put a seatbelt on your kids, and it won't matter if some other kid doesn't have a seatbelt on.

How very callous of you.

"Sorry, kid. You're on your own. You had the bad luck to be born to retards. Don't come crying to me when you get maimed or killed."

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

 

[bendog]

No, swimexpert, you will not put other children at risk because your unvaccinated brood spread disease.

I don't have an unvaccinated brood.

Peach, I was responding to swimexpert.

And I think you would vaccinate your children if you had them, because you would love them.

So, you want to legislate that parents love their children? Is that the goal? Is that even possible?

There are parents who do not love their children enough to put seat belts on them, too, unless someone makes them. Should those children pay the price for their parents' neglect and stupidity?

Not just that, but by refusing to inoculate their kids they put others' kids at risk. F that. I mean if there's a medical reason some kid shouldn't be vaccinated, fine. But a person's right to make an uninformed decision for themselves stops when it impacts others

 

[SwimExpert]

Not just that, but by refusing to inoculate their kids they put others' kids at risk. F that. I mean if there's a medical reason some kid shouldn't be vaccinated, fine. But a person's right to make an uninformed decision for themselves stops when it impacts others

You have no inherent right to someone else's vaccination.

 

[Dana7360]

Vaccinating kids is a form of genocide, Frank. Genius sheer genius (sarcasm)

Progs following their marching orders from Big Pharma

If you and your child aren't vaccinated how will you feel if you contract a deadly disease, transmit it to a baby under the age of a year old and that baby dies?

Will you feel any compassion for the baby and it's parents? Will you feel any remorse for needlessly killing someone else's baby? Will you go through your life with the guilt of knowing that you needlessly killed someone else's baby?

I know that any normal, caring person would but I've read your posts, you aren't a normal, caring person.

People who do such things belong prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter and be liable for any and all medical or funeral expenses.

 

[Dana7360]

Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated. Put a seatbelt on your kids, and it won't matter if some other kid doesn't have a seatbelt on.

How very callous of you.

"Sorry, kid. You're on your own. You had the bad luck to be born to retards. Don't come crying to me when you get maimed or killed."

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

Please explain something to me.

Why don't you understand that babies aren't born vaccinated nor are they born immune to those diseases?

Babies can't be vaccinated for months after birth. In the case of some vaccinations such as the measles, they can't be vaccinated until they're at least a year old.

Why do you believe you have the right to kill someone else's baby?

 

[g5000]

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

It is very callous to allow parents to neglect their children who have no choice in the matter. It is very callous to live and let die.

 

[rdean]

Fox Braintrust: Mandatory Vaccinations Could Lead To 'Forced Abortion'

And probably gay marriage too.

 

[bendog]

Not just that, but by refusing to inoculate their kids they put others' kids at risk. F that. I mean if there's a medical reason some kid shouldn't be vaccinated, fine. But a person's right to make an uninformed decision for themselves stops when it impacts others

You have no inherent right to someone else's vaccination.

I have a right to demand my politicans make it illegal to blow smoke in restaurants and drive drunk. I'm not gonna be just hunky doorey with a bunch of ill educated pampered middle class fools deciding their rights trump somebody else's.

 

[westwall]

The libertarian leaning lack of common sense above boggles the mind.

No Fakey, the progressive acceptance of government control boggles the mind. Here is a small list of what the government felt were necessary "experiments" that they conducted on the citizenry of the US. Below are just THREE experiments where people DIED because the all powerful government felt that these experiments were needed. So no fakey, it's not a libertarian lack of common sense that drives our concern, it is the progressives lack of common decency that does.


The Tuskegee Syphilis Study

Nuclear Testing and the Downwinders

Serratia has dark history in region Army test in 1950 may have changed microbial ecology - SFGate

What CURRENT experiments are connecting to MMR, smallpox, polio .. or for that matter diphtheria and the two hepatitis illnesses?

None that we know of. That's not the point. Progressives are incredibly myopic thinking that what they want only will affect a very small area of interest to them. As has been shown REPEATEDLY, that myopic point of view always comes back to bite everyone else in the ass when the government decides to extend other controls and programs under the original, benign directives.

THAT is the point.

 

[westwall]

The libertarian leaning lack of common sense above boggles the mind.

No Fakey, the progressive acceptance of government control boggles the mind. Here is a small list of what the government felt were necessary "experiments" that they conducted on the citizenry of the US. Below are just THREE experiments where people DIED because the all powerful government felt that these experiments were needed. So no fakey, it's not a libertarian lack of common sense that drives our concern, it is the progressives lack of common decency that does.


The Tuskegee Syphilis Study

Nuclear Testing and the Downwinders

Serratia has dark history in region Army test in 1950 may have changed microbial ecology - SFGate

You have to remember that Progressives have the same disdain for human life that you find in any modern Communist dictator

Yes. That is very much in evidence with their responses. It astonishes me that supposedly thinking people, can look at what has ALREADY occurred and ignore it. Thinking that they are somehow special and that it won't happen again. Incredibly stupid given the history of governments worldwide.

 

[peach174]

Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated. Put a seatbelt on your kids, and it won't matter if some other kid doesn't have a seatbelt on.

How very callous of you.

"Sorry, kid. You're on your own. You had the bad luck to be born to retards. Don't come crying to me when you get maimed or killed."

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

Please explain something to me.

Why don't you understand that babies aren't born vaccinated nor are they born immune to those diseases?

Babies can't be vaccinated for months after birth. In the case of some vaccinations such as the measles, they can't be vaccinated until they're at least a year old.

Why do you believe you have the right to kill someone else's baby?

Not one baby has died.

They are vaccinating the kids from 1 day old up to 3 months old.
One day old
hepB
7 vaccines by the time they are 2 to 3 months.
CDC - Vaccines - Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedules

It is very rare that babies die from measles. Zero deaths have occurred here in the U.S.A.
Just as its rare for MMR complications.
Both sides of the argument are parents who are concerned for their child's health.
Why aren't both sides of the argument important for concerned parents.?
Why force ones fears over the others fears?
There has got to be some sort of compromise rather than forcing parents to get MMR's with their fears over the other parents fears of their kids getting sick with these diseases.

 

[JakeStarkey]

west mall and frank simply refuse to understand that their conceputal understanding of the world fails to coincide with its reality.

Their problem, not ours.

 

[westwall]

west mall and frank simply refuse to understand that their conceputal understanding of the world fails to coincide with its reality.

Their problem, not ours.

You drunk fakey? You're even more incoherent than usual. The fact remains, I am all for vaccinations, I am not for FORCED vaccinations. Ignorant progressives like you can't seem to grasp that SIMPLE FACT.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Up until very recently, I was very sympathetic to parents' choice on this. But the more I have learned, the less sympathetic I am. Children are people - not property. THEY have a right to adequate healthcare and the rest of us have a right to be protected from the threat posed by the unvaccinated.

 

[westwall]

Up until very recently, I was very sympathetic to parents' choice on this. But the more I have learned, the less sympathetic I am. Children are people - not property. THEY have a right to adequate healthcare and the rest of us have a right to be protected from the threat posed by the unvaccinated.

If you truly believed that horsecrap you would immediately advocate for the closing of the borders to keep unvaccinated illegal aliens out of this country.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Up until very recently, I was very sympathetic to parents' choice on this. But the more I have learned, the less sympathetic I am. Children are people - not property. THEY have a right to adequate healthcare and the rest of us have a right to be protected from the threat posed by the unvaccinated.

If you truly believed that horsecrap you would immediately advocate for the closing of the borders to keep unvaccinated illegal aliens out of this country.

Mexico does a better job of vaccinating than we do in the U.S.
But I am in favor of much better border security anyway.

 

[Dana7360]

Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated. Put a seatbelt on your kids, and it won't matter if some other kid doesn't have a seatbelt on.

How very callous of you.

"Sorry, kid. You're on your own. You had the bad luck to be born to retards. Don't come crying to me when you get maimed or killed."

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

Please explain something to me.

Why don't you understand that babies aren't born vaccinated nor are they born immune to those diseases?

Babies can't be vaccinated for months after birth. In the case of some vaccinations such as the measles, they can't be vaccinated until they're at least a year old.

Why do you believe you have the right to kill someone else's baby?

Not one baby has died.

They are vaccinating the kids from 1 day old up to 3 months old.
One day old
hepB
7 vaccines by the time they are 2 to 3 months.
CDC - Vaccines - Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedules

It is very rare that babies die from measles. Zero deaths have occurred here in the U.S.A.
Just as its rare for MMR complications.
Both sides of the argument are parents who are concerned for their child's health.
Why aren't both sides of the argument important for concerned parents.?
Why force ones fears over the others fears?
There has got to be some sort of compromise rather than forcing parents to get MMR's with their fears over the other parents fears of their kids getting sick with these diseases.

I can't get past the lie in your first sentence.

There have been hundreds of babies who have died from diseases that we have vaccines for.

Here's what the CDC says about pertussis:
Whooping cough can even be deadly. From 2000 through 2012, there were 255 deaths from whooping cough reported in the United States. Almost all of the deaths (221 of the 255) were babies younger than 3 months of age.

CDC - Whooping Cough (Pertussis) Fact Sheet for Parents - Vaccines

I can't find any numbers on the deaths of babies with measles mostly because it was declared eradicated in 2000 and is only recently making a come back. However thousands die in undeveloped nations that don't have vaccinations or don't make them mandatory.

The CDC says that it kills one patient for every thousand who contract it. So yes, babies do die from the measles. They're more open to it because they can't be vaccinated before a year old and because they don't have well established immune systems.

The resurgence of measles in America, and the human costs of foregoing vaccination

However millions died before 1967 from the measles. It was a very deadly disease until the vaccination. When rubella hit America in the 60s it killed 2 thousand babies and caused 11 thousand miscarriages.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/What Would Happen If We Stopped Vaccinations

Do you really want to go back to that?

Do you really want to kill someone else's baby? I know you republicans love to kill people but I'm shocked that you don't draw the line at killing someone else's baby. I guess death is death to you and the more babies we have dying from preventable disease is a good thing to you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

west mall and frank simply refuse to understand that their conceptual understanding of the world fails to coincide with its reality.

Their problem, not ours.

You drunk fakey? You're even more incoherent than usual. The fact remains, I am all for vaccinations, I am not for FORCED vaccinations. Ignorant progressives like you can't seem to grasp that SIMPLE FACT.

I don't care if you are for parachutes if you jump out of an airplane. Your approval is immaterial is the point. We the People make these types of decisions. If you don't like it, who cares? Your approval does not matter.

 

[nodoginnafight]

west mall and frank simply refuse to understand that their conceptual understanding of the world fails to coincide with its reality.

Their problem, not ours.

You drunk fakey? You're even more incoherent than usual. The fact remains, I am all for vaccinations, I am not for FORCED vaccinations. Ignorant progressives like you can't seem to grasp that SIMPLE FACT.

I don't care if you are for parachutes if you jump out of an airplane. Your approval is immaterial is the point. We the People make these types of decisions. If you don't like it, who cares? Your approval does not matter.

Yeah, the notion that anything less than 100% agreement means we cannot do it, is unbelievably silly.

 

[peach174]

Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated. Put a seatbelt on your kids, and it won't matter if some other kid doesn't have a seatbelt on.

How very callous of you.

"Sorry, kid. You're on your own. You had the bad luck to be born to retards. Don't come crying to me when you get maimed or killed."

It's "callous" to live and let live? I wonder if you actually believe this nonsense or if you're just trolling.

Please explain something to me.

Why don't you understand that babies aren't born vaccinated nor are they born immune to those diseases?

Babies can't be vaccinated for months after birth. In the case of some vaccinations such as the measles, they can't be vaccinated until they're at least a year old.

Why do you believe you have the right to kill someone else's baby?

Not one baby has died.

They are vaccinating the kids from 1 day old up to 3 months old.
One day old
hepB
7 vaccines by the time they are 2 to 3 months.
CDC - Vaccines - Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedules

It is very rare that babies die from measles. Zero deaths have occurred here in the U.S.A.
Just as its rare for MMR complications.
Both sides of the argument are parents who are concerned for their child's health.
Why aren't both sides of the argument important for concerned parents.?
Why force ones fears over the others fears?
There has got to be some sort of compromise rather than forcing parents to get MMR's with their fears over the other parents fears of their kids getting sick with these diseases.

I can't get past the lie in your first sentence.

There have been hundreds of babies who have died from diseases that we have vaccines for.

Here's what the CDC says about pertussis:
Whooping cough can even be deadly. From 2000 through 2012, there were 255 deaths from whooping cough reported in the United States. Almost all of the deaths (221 of the 255) were babies younger than 3 months of age.

CDC - Whooping Cough (Pertussis) Fact Sheet for Parents - Vaccines

I can't find any numbers on the deaths of babies with measles mostly because it was declared eradicated in 2000 and is only recently making a come back. However thousands die in undeveloped nations that don't have vaccinations or don't make them mandatory.

The CDC says that it kills one patient for every thousand who contract it. So yes, babies do die from the measles. They're more open to it because they can't be vaccinated before a year old and because they don't have well established immune systems.

The resurgence of measles in America, and the human costs of foregoing vaccination

However millions died before 1967 from the measles. It was a very deadly disease until the vaccination. When rubella hit America in the 60s it killed 2 thousand babies and caused 11 thousand miscarriages.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/What Would Happen If We Stopped Vaccinations

Do you really want to go back to that?

Do you really want to kill someone else's baby? I know you republicans love to kill people but I'm shocked that you don't draw the line at killing someone else's baby. I guess death is death to you and the more babies we have dying from preventable disease is a good thing to you.

I was talking about the measles just like you said that you can't find any deaths from the measles as of today not the past.