Fox Braintrust: Mandatory Vaccinations Could Lead To 'Forced Abortion'

[SwimExpert]

SE is attempting to build a case that modern vaccines may be more harmful that helpful. He's right to the extent that all "knowledge" is always ripe for testing to see if what is accepted as true is true. But, he's lying to the extent that there is any scientific support for the beliefs that vaccines may be more harmful than helpful. He's simply using the old Goebbels meme of repeating shite until someone starts believing it.

No, you fool. Swim Expert is objecting to Dana's statement "Why don't you understand that babies aren't born vaccinated nor are they born immune to those diseases?" because Dana is making an assumption that is not supported.

As explained, Dana's statement is a logical conjunction, containing two operands. The first operand is "you don't understand that babies aren't born vaccinated." The second one is "you don't understand that they aren't born immune to diseases." In order for Dana's statement to be true, both operands must be true. If at least one is false, her statement is false.

Dana is assuming that I do not understand these things. That is to say, she is assuming the above operands are true. However, her assumption is unfounded and without justification. She has no basis to assume the above operands are true.

This is logic. Jake has renounced logic, in favor of--I don't know, maybe reading the tea leaves of a pink fairy garden. You, apparently, don't understand the first thing about logic, and are probably just making things up as you go along. Dana, I suspect, is intelligent enough to make sense of it all if she just takes a step back and removes the blinders.

As it turns out, I do understand that babies are not born vaccinated, so Dana's statement is false. Dana seems to view my position on this issue as being one only possible if one is ignorant, which is an egregious mistake on her part.

 

[paulitician]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

 

[paulitician]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

 

[bendog]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

What were they discussing? I don't watch much fox but from what I've seen they pretty much came down hard on the delusion of the anti-vacers.

 

[paulitician]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

 

[bendog]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Crap like this is one of the reasons that people who only watch Fox news score lower on current events quizzes than people who watch no news at all.

Watching Fox actually makes you demonstratively dumber.

 

[paulitician]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

So why even discuss the issue, right? Oh well, back to CNN (Communist News Network) and Brian Williams. Have fun. Bye.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Kudos to Fox News for discussing the issue. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts at CNN & NBC won't dare question the Government on this...Or much else for that matter.

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

That appears pretty cut and dried to me.
A lot of people apparently don't have a problem with loony.
And from what I've seen, a lot of the loony-friendly tend to gravitate toward a particular third party that advocates ideas that have no way of succeeding in the real world.

 

[bendog]

yah, well even Ben Carson came down on Randian Paul and ChrisToasty pretty hard.

 

[paulitician]

Yup leave it to good ol' Fox to pitch in to make people more stupid.

STUDY Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All - Business Insider

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

That appears pretty cut and dried to me.
A lot of people apparently don't have a problem with loony.
And from what I've seen, a lot of the loony-friendly tend to gravitate toward a particular third party that advocates ideas that have no way of succeeding in the real world.

What's 'loony' to you guys? Anything or anyone that questions Government narratives? See, i feel you guys are 'loony' for unquestioningly accepting everything Government presents as 'Case Closed Fact.' That's how i see it anyway.

 

[bendog]

They're openly discussing a serious issue. That's what America is about. The Communist/Progressive numbnuts over at CNN & NBC should try it sometime. Questioning the Government is a good thing. The American MSM should do it much more often.

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

That appears pretty cut and dried to me.
A lot of people apparently don't have a problem with loony.
And from what I've seen, a lot of the loony-friendly tend to gravitate toward a particular third party that advocates ideas that have no way of succeeding in the real world.

What's 'loony' to you guys? Anything or anyone that questions Government narratives? See, i feel you guys are 'loony' for unquestioningly accepting everything Government presents as 'Case Closed Fact.' That's how i see it anyway.

I'm sure you don't find it loony to tie forced abortions to mandatory vaccination.

 

[bendog]

I went back to see if Swim Expert made any scientific assertions. And found this.

"Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated."

Factually wrong

"It's all really very simple. If you want to protect your kid, get them vaccinated. Presto! Your kid is protected. If someone else wants to be stupid enough to buy into the Jenny McCartney bullshit, let evolution handle it."

The same factual misunderstanding.

"And yes, it is true that immune systems can be weakened by "babying" the immune system. Of course, that does not mean that people should avoid medical treatment when they are sick. But your flagrant ignorance of the matter makes you a poor candidate to form rational opinions about the issue. "

Factually wrong. There’s no scientific support that commonly approved vaccines weaken immunity.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full



" It's a sad world we live in. Thankfully, the one thing that makes it bearable is that we have freedom to raise our own children as we see fit, and be better parents than those idiots out there. "

Factually wrong because the state does have the power to force parents to allow medical treatment for kids.

 

[paulitician]

I have no problem with questioning government - I just have a problem with stupid, contributing to stupid, and trying to pretend that stupid is legitimate in order to pander to stupid viewers.

Now call me a statist - because it's what you always fall back on when called on stupidity.

Oh, you have a very big problem with questioning Government. Your outrage over Fox News daring to discuss the issue, says it all.

I'm pretty ok with calling anyone who tied mandatory vaccination to abortion a frigging loon.

That appears pretty cut and dried to me.
A lot of people apparently don't have a problem with loony.
And from what I've seen, a lot of the loony-friendly tend to gravitate toward a particular third party that advocates ideas that have no way of succeeding in the real world.

What's 'loony' to you guys? Anything or anyone that questions Government narratives? See, i feel you guys are 'loony' for unquestioningly accepting everything Government presents as 'Case Closed Fact.' That's how i see it anyway.

I'm sure you don't find it loony to tie forced abortions to mandatory vaccination.

Not sure yet. But i'm willing to listen and discuss. Unlike you Communists/Progressives who dutifully accept everything Government presents as 'Case Closed Fact.' I'm open to discussing the issue.

 

[SwimExpert]

I went back to see if Swim Expert made any scientific assertions. And found this.

"Stop worrying about other people so much and take care of your own responsibilities. Vaccinate your kids, and it won't matter if other kids aren't vaccinated."

Factually wrong

So your kids' vaccine depends on other people's vaccines? That's ridiculous.

Factually wrong. There’s no scientific support that commonly approved vaccines weaken immunity.

I never said that vaccines weaken immunity. So stop posting straw men.

Thankfully, the one thing that makes it bearable is that we have freedom to raise our own children as we see fit, and be better parents than those idiots out there. "

Factually wrong because the state does have the power to force parents to allow medical treatment for kids.

So freedom does not make life better? Wow.

 

[paulitician]

Communists/Progressives are very closed-minded. Outraged over even discussing the issue? Talk about blind allegiance to Big Brother. If Big Brother says it, don't dare question it. He knows what's best. Very closed-minded approach.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Communists/Progressives are very closed-minded. Outraged over even discussing the issue? Talk about blind allegiance to Big Brother. If Big Brother says it, don't dare question it. He knows what's best. Very closed-minded approach.

You left out statist

 

[paulitician]

Communists/Progressives are very closed-minded. Outraged over even discussing the issue? Talk about blind allegiance to Big Brother. If Big Brother says it, don't dare question it. He knows what's best. Very closed-minded approach.

You left out statist

Obviously that too.