Founder of Isis

[BlindBoo]

Bush stated he there shall be a residual force of 50,000 left behind. Obama pulled all of them. BTW, Obama took credit for it.

As he should have, Mr. Mud. Nine years was enough. We won WWII in four and that was on two fronts in different hemispheres.
If you didn't see the huge waste of humanity by staying in Iraq then you're simply blind.

And if we HAD stayed and kept 50,000 troops in, ISIS would STILL be there and we would have another 4500 dead and 40,000 wounded with an additional $5 T on the national credit card.

Wrong. A US force would not let ISIS take over. There's reasons we STILL have troops in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. You are welcome to your little bubble universe but don't try to sell it as Gospel.

Yeah because the leaders of Japan, Germany etc didnt threaten to lock up our soldiers if we didnt leave.

Really Iraq was gonna lock up.our soldiers? Seriously? They had zero leverage.......yes zero.....if we wanted the oil, who was gonna stop us?

Democrats.

Harry Reid made sure the Chinese got the oil contracts.

Who then partners with US oil interest.....

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[Rambunctious]

Bush stated he there shall be a residual force of 50,000 left behind. Obama pulled all of them. BTW, Obama took credit for it.

As he should have, Mr. Mud. Nine years was enough. We won WWII in four and that was on two fronts in different hemispheres.
If you didn't see the huge waste of humanity by staying in Iraq then you're simply blind.

And if we HAD stayed and kept 50,000 troops in, ISIS would STILL be there and we would have another 4500 dead and 40,000 wounded with an additional $5 T on the national credit card.

Wrong. A US force would not let ISIS take over. There's reasons we STILL have troops in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. You are welcome to your little bubble universe but don't try to sell it as Gospel.

Yeah because the leaders of Japan, Germany etc didnt threaten to lock up our soldiers if we didnt leave.

Really Iraq was gonna lock up.our soldiers? Seriously? They had zero leverage.......yes zero.....if we wanted the oil, who was gonna stop us?

All the questions in the world wont change what Maliki said and what you chose to ignore. Going "really?" isnt an objection or a point.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

All known lies and BS....Obama wanted out and didn't care what happened after that...

 

[bendog]

Obama stated on more than one occasion that he would like to see a residual force left behind as well but guess what? The Iraqis wanted the US out. The Shiite Government reneged on it's pledge to include the Sunnis. ISIS emerged as the champion of the Sunnis and easily took over the Sunni dominated parts of Iraq. ISIS is also the result of the Iraqi Civil war going regional

Everyone now admits the decision was Obama's so give me a break with that old disproved line of BS! he is the leader of the free world and the president of the victor in Iraq. We call the shots but he wanted to win re election rather than save the lives he alone placed in harms way. Shame on him and shame on the likes of you.

No we didn't call the shots, because if one GI shot one Iraqi without a Status of Forces agreement giving the US immunity, the US could be sued in the Hague.

There is no sense in blaming one or the other, but the nut at the middle is W allowed a corrupt shite govt to emerge. That was not inevitable, as al-Sistani wanted a democracy at least answerable to all shia and not just militias.

There's blame aplenty for Obama in not getting a SoF agreement later on, after it became clear the Shiaa needed us and Al-ah-Mucky got run out of town, for letting the EU leave us in Libya after we did their heavy lifting, and the total debacle in Syria which actually is worse than W accomplished in Iraq.

But you Trumpbots just illustrate why Dangerous Donald does not need the keys to the kingdom ... no matter how corrupt Hillary is. There's the Cash song you guys are experiencing "I hear the train a comin/ it's comin' round the bend....."

 

[BlindBoo]

No, U.S. Troops Didn't Have to Leave Iraq, by Patrick Brennan, National Review

Patrick is wrong. There was no agreement to renegotiate the SOFA. In fact Iraq could have asked us to leave at any time. On the other hand we had the right to pull out at any time as well. His opinion not with standing, the Obama administration did try an renegotiate for a residual force. President Obama didn't agree with the Iraqi terms. No President would have.

No Democrat president you mean.

They have no character or integrity.

President Bush wasn't able to secure immunity for US soldiers either. He was the original President who decided pulling out was a better option than putting our soldiers at risk of prosecution in Iraq courts. So your statement is moot.

 

[bendog]

No, U.S. Troops Didn't Have to Leave Iraq, by Patrick Brennan, National Review

Patrick is wrong. There was no agreement to renegotiate the SOFA. In fact Iraq could have asked us to leave at any time. On the other hand we had the right to pull out at any time as well. His opinion not with standing, the Obama administration did try an renegotiate for a residual force. President Obama didn't agree with the Iraqi terms. No President would have.

No Democrat president you mean.

They have no character or integrity.

President Bush wasn't able to secure immunity for US soldiers either. He was the original President who decided pulling out was a better option than putting our soldiers at risk of prosecution in Iraq courts. So your statement is moot.

Not just soldiers ... the US govt too.

 

[Rambunctious]

No we didn't call the shots, because if one GI shot one Iraqi without a Status of Forces agreement giving the US immunity, the US could be sued in the Hague

That's was proven to be untrue...you may believe it because we have such a weak man in the white house that would allow our troops to be put on trial. Every expert has already debunked the Obama excuses for his horrific surrender and pull out you're wasting your time trying to re write history.

 

[Rambunctious]

President Bush wasn't able to secure immunity for US soldiers either. He was the original President who decided pulling out was a better option than putting our soldiers at risk of prosecution in Iraq courts. So your statement is moot.

Now you're just making shit up.....

 

[ClosedCaption]

As he should have, Mr. Mud. Nine years was enough. We won WWII in four and that was on two fronts in different hemispheres.
If you didn't see the huge waste of humanity by staying in Iraq then you're simply blind.

And if we HAD stayed and kept 50,000 troops in, ISIS would STILL be there and we would have another 4500 dead and 40,000 wounded with an additional $5 T on the national credit card.

Wrong. A US force would not let ISIS take over. There's reasons we STILL have troops in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. You are welcome to your little bubble universe but don't try to sell it as Gospel.

Yeah because the leaders of Japan, Germany etc didnt threaten to lock up our soldiers if we didnt leave.

Really Iraq was gonna lock up.our soldiers? Seriously? They had zero leverage.......yes zero.....if we wanted the oil, who was gonna stop us?

All the questions in the world wont change what Maliki said and what you chose to ignore. Going "really?" isnt an objection or a point.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

All known lies and BS....Obama wanted out and didn't care what happened after that...

"Personally, I no longer want them to stay," Othman said. "It's been eight years. I don't think having Americans stay in Iraq will improve the situation at all. Leaving would be better for them and for us. It's time for us to go our separate ways."

The opposition from across Iraq's political spectrum meant that Maliki would have needed to mount a Herculean effort to persuade Iraq's fractious parliament to sign off on any troop extension deals. His closest advisers conceded that such a deal would have virtually no chance of passing.

"Passing a new agreement now in the parliament would be very difficult, if not impossible," Sadiq al-Ribaki, who heads Maliki's political bloc in parliament and has long been one of his closest political advisers, said in a recent interview. "It's a nonstarter for most of the parties and MPs."

 

[Rambunctious]

Personally, I no longer want them to stay," Othman said. "It's been eight years. I don't think having Americans stay in Iraq will improve the situation at all.

Obviously he was wrong so whats your point?

 

[ClosedCaption]

President Bush wasn't able to secure immunity for US soldiers either. He was the original President who decided pulling out was a better option than putting our soldiers at risk of prosecution in Iraq courts. So your statement is moot.

Now you're just making shit up.....

You should probably just cut and paste that for every response that includes a link showing you've been duped

 

[Mac1958]

"Founder of ISIS"

More cartoonish hyperbole from Trump.

How are people supposed to believe anything this guy says?
.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Wrong. A US force would not let ISIS take over. There's reasons we STILL have troops in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. You are welcome to your little bubble universe but don't try to sell it as Gospel.

Yeah because the leaders of Japan, Germany etc didnt threaten to lock up our soldiers if we didnt leave.

Really Iraq was gonna lock up.our soldiers? Seriously? They had zero leverage.......yes zero.....if we wanted the oil, who was gonna stop us?

All the questions in the world wont change what Maliki said and what you chose to ignore. Going "really?" isnt an objection or a point.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

All known lies and BS....Obama wanted out and didn't care what happened after that...

"Personally, I no longer want them to stay," Othman said. "It's been eight years. I don't think having Americans stay in Iraq will improve the situation at all. Leaving would be better for them and for us. It's time for us to go our separate ways."

The opposition from across Iraq's political spectrum meant that Maliki would have needed to mount a Herculean effort to persuade Iraq's fractious parliament to sign off on any troop extension deals. His closest advisers conceded that such a deal would have virtually no chance of passing.

"Passing a new agreement now in the parliament would be very difficult, if not impossible," Sadiq al-Ribaki, who heads Maliki's political bloc in parliament and has long been one of his closest political advisers, said in a recent interview. "It's a nonstarter for most of the parties and MPs."

Well.how did it turn out. We predicted it..

It's not hard....we should have said make us leave...whatcha gonna do.about it?

 

[Rambunctious]

You should probably just cut and paste that for every response that includes a link showing you've been duped

You're the duped one brother.

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama stated on more than one occasion that he would like to see a residual force left behind as well but guess what? The Iraqis wanted the US out. The Shiite Government reneged on it's pledge to include the Sunnis. ISIS emerged as the champion of the Sunnis and easily took over the Sunni dominated parts of Iraq. ISIS is also the result of the Iraqi Civil war going regional

Everyone now admits the decision was Obama's so give me a break with that old disproved line of BS! he is the leader of the free world and the president of the victor in Iraq. We call the shots but he wanted to win re election rather than save the lives he alone placed in harms way. Shame on him and shame on the likes of you.

We stopped calling all the shots in Iraq in the fall of 2003 when President Bush went to the UNSC and asked for help with the occupation and a legal mandate to occupy Iraq. The mandate was granted. Every year the Iraqi urged the SC to rescind that Mandate. They finally agreed and 2008 was the last year of the mandate. Which is why we got the SOFA at the end of 2008.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Personally, I no longer want them to stay," Othman said. "It's been eight years. I don't think having Americans stay in Iraq will improve the situation at all.

Obviously he was wrong so whats your point?

Ok, but thats why we couldnt stay

 

[Rambunctious]

We stopped calling all the shots in Iraq in the fall of 2003 when President Bush went to the UNSC and asked for help with the occupation and a legal mandate to occupy Iraq. The mandate was granted. Every year the Iraqi urged the SC to rescind that Mandate. They finally agreed and 2008 was the last year of the mandate. Which is why we got the SOFA at the end of 2008

Why are you people trying to argue that Americas hands were tied? We won the war and I guarantee you all if staying in Iraq meant Obama would win re election we would never have left no matter what Iraq or the UN thought about it. So grow up and stop the nonsense and the outdated links of government propaganda.

 

[Rambunctious]

Ok, but thats why we couldnt stay

I think you have misunderstood your own post...Buuuuahahahaha

 

[Rambunctious]

if staying in Iraq meant Obama would win re election we would never have left no matter what Iraq or the UN thought about it and you all know it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

IF If's and buts were candy and nuts we'd have a Merry Christmas and you all know it

 

[Rambunctious]

IF If's and buts were candy and nuts we'd have a Merry Christmas and you all know it

Sounds like a surrender to me...